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Alright, this is sort of in response to Podo's (monster's) "feeble attempt" thread.
I'm an atheist. I don't believe in the existence of any god whatsoever. Any questions? ![]() |
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Again no. I am saying that since we have no Creator, there are no absolutes, correct? What is right for me is right for me right? Ect,, for you. You may have the principles in your life that you follow like, don't steal, cheat, or kill and be nice, and those are the standards you follow, but that may not be the case for me. I may have the principles in my life that I follow like, I steal and cheat and am mean to everyone, but I think that you shouldn't murder (just an example). The actual question: What "law" say what is right and wrong and how do you decide? Simply; wouldn't it be okay to steal, cheat, lie, whatever as long as you live to your morals (In no way am I trying to say that atheists don't have morals, I am simply asking where you get yours from and how you know they are right) Sorry if I offended anyone, I didn't intend to do so. Same for clarifying. Anyways, I can't stay. The bolded is the ultimate question I am trying to ask. |
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![]() I'm Jc ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Mentor Posts: 13,619 Joined: Jul 2006 Member No: 437,556 ![]() |
^ Again no. I am saying that since we have no Creator, there are no absolutes, correct? What is right for me is right for me right? Ect,, for you. You may have the principles in your life that you follow like, don't steal, cheat, or kill and be nice, and those are the standards you follow, but that may not be the case for me. I may have the principles in my life that I follow like, I steal and cheat and am mean to everyone, but I think that you shouldn't murder (just an example). The actual question: What "law" say what is right and wrong and how do you decide? Simply; wouldn't it be okay to steal, cheat, lie, whatever as long as you live to your morals (In no way am I trying to say that atheists don't have morals, I am simply asking where you get yours from and how you know they are right) this is my post from another thread, we seem to have differing beliefs on morals yeah i'll agree with sandra. it seems that u two are saying that to be moral, u must be christian. this means that a good number of people in the world are not moral, just because they are not christian. this also i suppose would mean that everyone prior to christianity must be immoral. so u think that morality comes from god then? i have the same problem with this as plato and socrates then i guess. is something moral because it's moral, or is something moral simply because god says it is? if something is only moral because god says so, then i don't think we can really take it as seriously. right or wrong could be anything. god could say murder and slavery are moral, and they would be, just because god said they were. if things are only right or wrong on god's command, then that's just trivial and holds no weight. so then i think we can pretty much conclude that god tells us things are wrong, because they really are wrong. if god commands things to be wrong, because they are...then something being wrong, doesn't depend on god. they are wrong, that's why god says they are. so then take god out of the picture and they are still wrong. basic moral principles exist all over the world, in all different types of religions, and pre-date christianity. there's many things in the bible that make it not a consistent morality guide. for instance when moses commands the troops to kill every woman and every child in midian, but not the young virgins. the troops may keep the virgins for themselves. there's repeated times when things take place in the bible that are simply not moral. the bold part is what applies. i don't think morals depend on god, so i think these basic morals apply to everyone. i think is rape is wrong, whether or not u happen to like to rape people. |
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this is my post from another thread, we seem to have differing beliefs on morals the bold part is what applies. i don't think morals depend on god, so i think these basic morals apply to everyone. i think is rape is wrong, whether or not u happen to like to rape people. what i enjoy is when people go into drugs and stuff then saying it is defended in the bible like saying, "noo jesus drank red wine! it's not a sin to drink!" or "jesus put opium on the earth and pot, it's ok" idk but drugs are another story all together i think. |
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