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My feeble attempt at the explanation of Christianity., You ask questions, and I'll try to answer.
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post Nov 3 2007, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(RAWRstephishere @ Nov 2 2007, 06:38 PM) *
Prove there is a God.



I'm creating this thread to see if I myself can try to answer questions that question or even contradict myself and the religion that I believe in.

Here's how it goes, all of you ask me questions about Christianity, and I'll try my best to answer them with the little theological knowledge that I know.
 
 
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post Nov 3 2007, 01:13 PM
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in peter when it says that slaves should be subject to their masters with all reverence is that a metaphor too?


i definitely don't think anyone should take the bible literal. it seems to have tons of contradictions, and things that just don't make any sense. whenever something doesn't make sense then i'm told it's just a metaphor.

like in genesis, when god creates the earth. it lists that this is what happens on day one, this is day two, this is day three, then all the sudden on day four god makes the sun and the moon. so how were the first three days divided into days? we judge days by when the sun comes up and goes down, that clearly wasn't happening since the sun and moon didn't exist yet.

things like this make no sense to me. but the answer i always get is, well god can do what he wants, or god works in mysterious ways. ok that's great, but backing up everything with "god just did it" isn't answering anything for me. it's a completely circular argument, god can do whatever he wants. that doesn't cut it for me
 
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 02:13 PM) *
in peter when it says that slaves should be subject to their masters with all reverence is that a metaphor too?
i definitely don't think anyone should take the bible literal. it seems to have tons of contradictions, and things that just don't make any sense. whenever something doesn't make sense then i'm told it's just a metaphor.

like in genesis, when god creates the earth. it lists that this is what happens on day one, this is day two, this is day three, then all the sudden on day four god makes the sun and the moon. so how were the first three days divided into days? we judge days by when the sun comes up and goes down, that clearly wasn't happening since the sun and moon didn't exist yet.

things like this make no sense to me. but the answer i always get is, well god can do what he wants, or god works in mysterious ways. ok that's great, but backing up everything with "god just did it" isn't answering anything for me.


Like I said earlier, there are many times where people have used the quotes in a wrong way to prove their point, like with the Southern plantation owners saying the quote from Peter to the black slaves trying to justify all that.

There are many points in the Bible where things can only be explained through the worldy tongues, meaning days, weeks, hours. In the spiritual realm, there is no real day. No hours, nor weeks. They are put there so that we as humans can get a general idea of it.

Let me give you an example. Angels are spirits. You cannot see them. Look at Isaiah 6:2. "Above him were seraphs, each with six wings: With two wings they covered their faces, with two they covered their feet, and with two they were flying."

Angels cannot be seen, but how did Isaiah see them? This is not how angels look. It's an example of anthropomorphism. ( No, not furries ) He was shown everything from a worldly view so that others can understand. If the Bible was to be explained all in spiritual terms, noone would be able to understand.

 
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QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 3 2007, 01:21 PM) *
Like I said earlier, there are many times where people have used the quotes in a wrong way to prove their point, like with the Southern plantation owners saying the quote from Peter to the black slaves trying to justify all that.


but the bible says slavery is ok. it gives instructions on how we slaves should act. why would god be ok with slavery?

i would think the bible would preach against slavery rather than explaining slaves should obey their masters
 
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but the bible says slavery is ok. it gives instructions on how we slaves should act. why would god be ok with slavery?

Slaves were, in that time, and in other countries NOW are still prevalent. The Bible is not saying that slavery is OK. But what it IS saying, that if you do have slaves, to treat them fairly, honestly, and with care. This showed that the Bible was way ahead of times because nobody cared about slaves in ancient times.
 

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Podomaht   My feeble attempt at the explanation of Christianity.   Nov 3 2007, 11:48 AM
brooklyneast05   good topic idea first though, are u someone who t...   Nov 3 2007, 11:53 AM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 12:53 ...   Nov 3 2007, 12:00 PM
Sandraaa   Wow, brave one dude! OK. Here's mine: I...   Nov 3 2007, 12:00 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Nov 3 2007, 01:00 PM) Wo...   Nov 3 2007, 12:05 PM
Sandraaa   ^ Above you.   Nov 3 2007, 12:02 PM
Sandraaa   I also find it strange that someone'll conside...   Nov 3 2007, 12:10 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Nov 3 2007, 01:10 PM) I ...   Nov 3 2007, 12:18 PM
brooklyneast05   why is there suffering to such an extent? if god i...   Nov 3 2007, 12:14 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 01:14 ...   Nov 3 2007, 12:25 PM
Sandraaa   Podo, I read all your edits. Man, haha!   Nov 3 2007, 12:16 PM
Sandraaa   God is love. OK. So, what's up with Christians...   Nov 3 2007, 12:22 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Nov 3 2007, 01:22 PM) Go...   Nov 3 2007, 12:29 PM
Sandraaa   It sure looks as though God chose Africa to be the...   Nov 3 2007, 12:36 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Nov 3 2007, 01:36 PM) It...   Nov 3 2007, 12:44 PM
brooklyneast05   why is the bible so sexist? there's multiple ...   Nov 3 2007, 12:47 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 01:47 ...   Nov 3 2007, 12:52 PM
Sandraaa   Well I don't feel anything. I guess I'm do...   Nov 3 2007, 12:49 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Nov 3 2007, 12:49 PM) We...   Nov 3 2007, 12:51 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 01:51 ...   Nov 3 2007, 12:53 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Nov 3 2007, 01:49 PM) We...   Nov 3 2007, 12:56 PM
brooklyneast05   "Let the woman learn in silence with all subj...   Nov 3 2007, 12:55 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 01:55 ...   Nov 3 2007, 12:58 PM
Podomaht   By the way, there are many female pastors who lead...   Nov 3 2007, 12:59 PM
brooklyneast05   how do we know what's metaphor and what's ...   Nov 3 2007, 01:03 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 02:03 ...   Nov 3 2007, 01:06 PM
brooklyneast05   in peter when it says that slaves should be subjec...   Nov 3 2007, 01:13 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 02:13 ...   Nov 3 2007, 01:21 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 3 2007, 01:21 PM) Li...   Nov 3 2007, 01:23 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 02:23 ...   Nov 3 2007, 01:25 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 3 2007, 01:25 PM) Sl...   Nov 3 2007, 01:28 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 02:28 ...   Nov 3 2007, 01:30 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 3 2007, 01:30 PM) Wh...   Nov 3 2007, 01:33 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 02:33 ...   Nov 3 2007, 01:36 PM
NoSex   Why doesn't god heal amputees?   Nov 3 2007, 01:20 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(NoSex @ Nov 3 2007, 02:20 PM) Why d...   Nov 3 2007, 01:22 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 3 2007, 12:22 PM) Go...   Nov 3 2007, 07:44 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(NoSex @ Nov 3 2007, 07:44 PM) But h...   Nov 4 2007, 01:49 AM
S-Majere   Damn Podomaht, you've impressed me with this t...   Nov 3 2007, 01:33 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(S-Majere @ Nov 3 2007, 02:33 P...   Nov 3 2007, 01:38 PM
brooklyneast05   everyone believes their god is the one true god. h...   Nov 3 2007, 01:47 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 02:47 ...   Nov 3 2007, 01:54 PM
Sandraaa   How do we know that God's a man?   Nov 3 2007, 01:55 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Nov 3 2007, 02:55 PM) Ho...   Nov 3 2007, 01:58 PM
karmakiller   Wow, this is deffinately an interesting topic. Goi...   Nov 3 2007, 01:56 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(karmakiller @ Nov 3 2007, 02:56 PM)...   Nov 3 2007, 02:02 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 3 2007, 02:02 PM) Th...   Nov 3 2007, 02:06 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 3 2007, 03:06 ...   Nov 3 2007, 02:08 PM
karmakiller   Maybe I just had a pastor who was didn't like ...   Nov 3 2007, 02:13 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(karmakiller @ Nov 3 2007, 03:13 PM)...   Nov 3 2007, 02:15 PM
Podomaht   Guys, I'm done for now. I'm going out for ...   Nov 3 2007, 02:24 PM
karmakiller   ^ I guess god hasn't yet figured out a way to ...   Nov 3 2007, 07:50 PM
brooklyneast05   ^ other situations are different. this amputee one...   Nov 3 2007, 07:54 PM
karmakiller   Well, if god's up there, or out there... or wh...   Nov 3 2007, 08:27 PM
RAWRstephishere   Hey look, thats my quote. So God made everything,...   Nov 3 2007, 08:47 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(RAWRstephishere @ Nov 3 2007, 08:47...   Nov 3 2007, 08:55 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(RAWRstephishere @ Nov 3 2007, 08:47...   Nov 4 2007, 01:51 AM
Podomaht   NoSex, I'm not quite sure as to what you...   Nov 4 2007, 01:54 AM
Podomaht   It's late, guys. We can continue tommorow. Go...   Nov 4 2007, 02:03 AM
Laughsalot   ok now back to the slavery topic. it's becuase...   Nov 4 2007, 03:08 AM
Podomaht   QUOTE(Laughsalot @ Nov 4 2007, 03:08 AM) ...   Nov 5 2007, 01:13 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 5 2007, 12:13 AM) Li...   Nov 5 2007, 04:28 PM
alovesopure   Dang, Podo. You are a brave one. kudos. & so ...   Nov 5 2007, 01:38 AM
Podomaht   QUOTE(alovesopure @ Nov 5 2007, 01:38 AM)...   Nov 5 2007, 11:45 AM
brooklyneast05   this question is wordy, but ok i'm not saying...   Nov 5 2007, 01:28 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 5 2007, 01:28 ...   Nov 5 2007, 05:29 PM
brooklyneast05   why do u need to serve god on earth? i don't u...   Nov 5 2007, 05:41 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 5 2007, 05:41 ...   Nov 5 2007, 05:52 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 5 2007, 06:52 PM) No...   Nov 5 2007, 05:56 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 5 2007, 05:56 ...   Nov 5 2007, 06:25 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 5 2007, 07:25 PM) Th...   Nov 5 2007, 06:27 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 5 2007, 06:27 ...   Nov 5 2007, 06:29 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 5 2007, 05:27 ...   Nov 5 2007, 06:30 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(NoSex @ Nov 5 2007, 06:30 PM) No, b...   Nov 5 2007, 06:38 PM
Sulfur-in-K   I didn't read the earliest posts, so I may pos...   Nov 5 2007, 06:20 PM
brooklyneast05   even if i agreed with u there, god isn't anyth...   Nov 5 2007, 06:32 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 5 2007, 06:32 ...   Nov 5 2007, 06:37 PM
brooklyneast05   yes, but WHY do u serve him. do u serve him only b...   Nov 5 2007, 06:40 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 5 2007, 06:40 ...   Nov 5 2007, 06:46 PM
fire   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 6 2007, 10:40 ...   Nov 5 2007, 06:54 PM
brooklyneast05   ^hmmm true, it would be diff for everyone i suppos...   Nov 5 2007, 06:49 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 5 2007, 06:49 ...   Nov 5 2007, 06:51 PM
brooklyneast05   yeah but he's all knowing remember, he knew it...   Nov 5 2007, 06:52 PM
RAWRstephishere   Why did God create us? Just so he could have litt...   Nov 5 2007, 06:55 PM
fire   QUOTE(RAWRstephishere @ Nov 6 2007, 10:55...   Nov 5 2007, 07:01 PM
RAWRstephishere   QUOTE(fire @ Nov 5 2007, 07:01 PM) Gensis...   Nov 5 2007, 07:07 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(RAWRstephishere @ Nov 5 2007, 06:55...   Nov 5 2007, 08:35 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(RAWRstephishere @ Nov 5 2007, 06:55...   Nov 5 2007, 08:41 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 5 2007, 09:41 PM) Al...   Nov 5 2007, 08:49 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 5 2007, 08:49 ...   Nov 5 2007, 08:51 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 5 2007, 09:51 PM) Ge...   Nov 5 2007, 08:55 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 5 2007, 08:55 ...   Nov 5 2007, 09:02 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Nov 5 2007, 10:02 PM) Of...   Nov 5 2007, 09:04 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(fire @ Nov 5 2007, 08:01 PM) Gensis...   Nov 5 2007, 07:07 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Nov 5 2007, 07:07 ...   Nov 5 2007, 08:36 PM
fire   Gods motive for creating us was His motive of love...   Nov 5 2007, 07:18 PM
brooklyneast05   ^no offense but u just need to let podo answer.   Nov 5 2007, 07:20 PM
fire   Ahhh okay, can't say I tried, I'll step ou...   Nov 5 2007, 07:31 PM
NoSex   You never addressed my most formulated and biting ...   Nov 5 2007, 08:55 PM
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