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 Jun 6 2004, 04:51 PM
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do u guys think the 2 bombs dropped on japan during WW2 were really needed?
i say no because they just killed innoc3nt people in those 2 citys and it left a perment mental damage on my grandma (im japanese) so what do u guys think |
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Jun 17 2004, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 6:21 AM) The Japanese was in no position to make demands. They were the enemy; they chose to be the enemy; and after Pearl, they shouldn't even be thinking about making demands. We were generous to let them keep their Emperor... of course that generosity came from a selfish motive, but we were still quite generous. QUOTE The US wanted the Japanese to surrender ASAP. As you pointed out, Manchuria was invaded. Though not the same as invading the Japanese Islands, it still meant that Stalin was on the path to Japan. The US needed to end the war quick, or we might have been faced with Communist Japan. Okay...quite queasy right now (taking medication)...so let's see if I have my head put on straight. So I have two quotes to get at...  Okay...so about the Emperor: The US didn't want the Japanese to keep the emperor, AT ALL. They really wanted the emperor to drop down from his position and this was already going to produce more conflict in the situation. You see, they wanted the emperor to drop down to make the situation 'all better' but of course this wasn't going to happen. The Japanese saw the emperor as a god, and was the thing that held together the Japanese culture and people. Okay, about the Stalin incident (well: kryogenix's quote): Okay, yes maybe the US had to enter the war quick, but why drop TWO atomic bombs, thus killing more innocent people, which only one atomic bomb could have been enough. I just don't see the logic in that. FDR asked for the two bombs to be dropped, but how is it that even Albert Einstein mentioned after that the atomic bombs shouldn't have been placed (after much consideration, he saw that it was unnecessary, stating that he regrets consenting the bomb to be placed). Over 59 scientists oposed the dropping of the bombs...so doesn't that say something? |
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Mr. Psychotic bombings on japan Jun 6 2004, 04:51 PM
CEP The Japenese were clearly losing even before the t... Jun 6 2004, 04:55 PM Yemmerz the us didnt have to bomb japan. they could of don... Jun 6 2004, 04:58 PM Mr. Psychotic QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ Jun 6 2004, 4:55 PM)T... Jun 6 2004, 05:00 PM IIO__oII well... the bombs DID make the japanese surrender.... Jun 7 2004, 12:05 AM Spirited Away To answer this question, I asked myself: Was it re... Jun 7 2004, 12:09 AM krnxswat Well as much as I want to say it wasn't, I thi... Jun 7 2004, 12:12 AM Mr. Psychotic QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 7 2004, 12:09 AM)To... Jun 7 2004, 12:45 AM krnxswat QUOTE(innoc3nt619 @ Jun 7 2004, 1:45 AM)see t... Jun 7 2004, 12:47 AM 177emories yes that it did kill innocent ppl... but then it e... Jun 7 2004, 01:31 AM Spirited Away QUOTE(innoc3nt619 @ Jun 7 2004, 12:45 AM)see ... Jun 7 2004, 01:34 AM tkproduce from a lot of european countries' point of vie... Jun 9 2004, 02:37 AM Spirited Away Here is a weak attempt to justify the nuclear bomb... Jun 9 2004, 09:59 AM tkproduce The second bomb was a bit pointless wasn't it? Jun 10 2004, 07:51 AM
mipadi QUOTE(tkproduce @ Jun 10 2004, 8:51 AM)The se... Jul 25 2005, 08:31 AM kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 25 2005, 8:31 AM)Were eith... Jul 25 2005, 09:27 AM mipadi QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 25 2005, 10:27 AM)And t... Jul 25 2005, 09:35 AM sadolakced acid QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 25 2005, 9:35 AM)Maybe, ma... Jul 25 2005, 12:32 PM kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 25 2005, 9:35 AM)Maybe, ma... Jul 26 2005, 10:55 AM Spirited Away QUOTE(tkproduce @ Jun 10 2004, 7:51 AM)The se... Jun 10 2004, 09:48 AM ComradeRed Getting Japan to surrender was just a pretext. The... Jun 10 2004, 12:03 PM xscore QUOTE(krnxswat @ Jun 7 2004, 12:47 AM)What... Jun 10 2004, 12:35 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(xscore @ Jun 10 2004, 12:35 PM)wtf?
im ... Jun 10 2004, 12:39 PM onenonly101 The bombings were needed, just not in the place th... Jun 10 2004, 01:53 PM juliar QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 10 2004, 1:03 PM)Getti... Jun 10 2004, 03:58 PM ComradeRed Uh... yes they were. The Emperor himself already p... Jun 10 2004, 05:10 PM Spirited Away Well, the US gave many warnings in advance but Jap... Jun 10 2004, 05:51 PM ComradeRed It was not an unconditional surrender. It was a su... Jun 10 2004, 05:57 PM Spirited Away The US wanted an unconditional surrender, but Japa... Jun 10 2004, 06:42 PM ComradeRed Originally hardliners within the US demanded that ... Jun 10 2004, 06:46 PM Spirited Away So then back to the original topic, there were sti... Jun 10 2004, 06:50 PM ComradeRed Yes, a lieutenant in the Eastern District Army (th... Jun 10 2004, 06:52 PM Spirited Away Commited suicide... Japanese's way of commitin... Jun 10 2004, 06:59 PM ComradeRed No, if the US guaranteed the Emperor's positio... Jun 10 2004, 07:06 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 10 2004, 7:06 PM)No, i... Jun 10 2004, 07:19 PM ComradeRed Justified, perhaps. Necessary, no. Jun 10 2004, 07:34 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 10 2004, 7:34 PM)Justi... Jun 10 2004, 07:38 PM honorguard Nope! I guess they just wanted it to feel more... Jun 10 2004, 07:40 PM kryogenix QUOTE(innoc3nt619 @ Jun 6 2004, 4:51 PM)do u ... Jun 11 2004, 04:13 PM stryker76 i am very patriotic toward my country...not like m... Jun 11 2004, 09:57 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(stryker76 @ Jun 11 2004, 9:57 PM)I mean... Jun 11 2004, 09:59 PM NatiMarie I think it was unnecessary for the bombs to be pla... Jun 11 2004, 10:42 PM AntiAnodyne QUOTE(tkproduce @ Jun 9 2004, 2:37 AM)from a ... Jun 14 2004, 08:48 AM kryogenix QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 11 2004, 10:42 PM)I thi... Jun 15 2004, 05:50 AM sadolakced acid no, the US just didn't want to invade japan. ... Jun 15 2004, 02:21 PM JlIaTMK those werent needed
there was just more ppl kille... Jun 16 2004, 09:20 PM NatiMarie QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 15 2004, 2:50 AM)They w... Jun 16 2004, 09:23 PM Spirited Away Well, when Japan attacked Pearl, they killed many ... Jun 16 2004, 11:32 PM NatiMarie Two wrongs don't make a right. Yeah, the Japan... Jun 16 2004, 11:46 PM Spirited Away Actually, there was NO declaration of WAR until th... Jun 16 2004, 11:50 PM NatiMarie Still...why the need to bomb Nagasaki. Why couldn... Jun 16 2004, 11:56 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 16 2004, 11:56 PM)Still... Jun 17 2004, 12:09 AM NatiMarie Quote: ComradeRed told me that basically (I think)... Jun 17 2004, 12:38 AM kryogenix QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 16 2004, 11:56 PM)Still... Jun 17 2004, 05:55 AM Spirited Away QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 17 2004, 12:38 AM)The U... Jun 17 2004, 09:21 AM Kitsune_black666 Um...I think the bombing just made the surrender c... Jun 17 2004, 10:09 AM sadolakced acid everyone is asking, why drop 2 bombs. i'm goi... Jun 17 2004, 02:27 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 17 2004, 2:14 PM)Okay..... Jun 17 2004, 02:41 PM NatiMarie QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 11:41 AM) ... Jun 17 2004, 05:44 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 17 2004, 5:44 PM)Of cou... Jun 17 2004, 06:33 PM NatiMarie QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 3:33 PM)I ... Jun 21 2004, 02:47 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 21 2004, 2:47 PM)Sorry.... Jun 21 2004, 02:52 PM winsome QUOTETruman was under time pressure to keep Stalin... Jun 22 2004, 01:07 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(winsome @ Jun 22 2004, 1:07 PM)Of cours... Jun 22 2004, 01:09 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEQUOTE (winsome @ Jun 22 2004, 1:07 PM)
Of co... Jun 29 2004, 01:08 AM sadolakced acid most agree the bomb was necessary. the first one.... Jun 29 2004, 01:51 AM EmeraldKnight QUOTEmost agree the bomb was necessary. the first ... Jun 29 2004, 09:53 AM sadolakced acid haha. i was in a hurry.
we had to sneak past t... Jun 30 2004, 10:50 AM EmeraldKnight QUOTEoh, but you see. the japanese could have stop... Jun 30 2004, 02:44 PM sadolakced acid i ment militarily wounded.
they were still able... Jun 30 2004, 07:15 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEi ment militarily wounded.
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QUOT... Jul 1 2004, 01:26 AM FlyingFries well......if the US hadn't dropped the two bom... Jul 1 2004, 12:31 PM sadolakced acid the emperor tried to surrender. some people took ... Jul 1 2004, 01:08 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEby the way, the second bomb, fat man, it miss... Jul 1 2004, 08:45 PM Justingamemaster ROCK ON!!
Tom Cruise is in fault for this... Jul 1 2004, 09:18 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEROCK ON!!
Tom Cruise is in fault for... Jul 1 2004, 09:53 PM kryogenix QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 1 2004, 8:45 PM)And... Jul 2 2004, 09:51 AM NatiMarie QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 2 2004, 6:51 AM)because... Jul 3 2004, 12:37 PM sadolakced acid they were going to. but then they kidnapped thier... Jul 3 2004, 05:39 PM CrackedRearView Well, if you want justification in the dropping of... Jul 9 2004, 12:26 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEWell, if you want justification in the droppi... Jul 9 2004, 01:15 PM sadolakced acid the civilians were.
at okinawa, when the america... Jul 9 2004, 02:36 PM Hell-Rell It was too drastic. They could have used other bom... Jul 25 2005, 09:32 AM mipadi But Japan already knew we could utterly destroy th... Jul 25 2005, 12:33 PM yukichan QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 25 2005, 7:33 AM)But Japan... Jul 26 2005, 03:37 AM sadolakced acid nagasaki sped things up.
the japanese didn't ... Jul 25 2005, 12:56 PM Kristinaa QUOTE(Mr. Psychotic @ Jun 6 2004, 4:51 PM)do ... Jul 25 2005, 01:29 PM Shahin I completely agree with the United States involvem... Jul 25 2005, 11:00 PM sikdragon It helped more than just Japan. It made the world ... Jul 25 2005, 11:39 PM mipadi Arguably for "psychological purposes", b... Jul 26 2005, 12:24 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 26 2005, 12:24 PM)Arguably... Jul 26 2005, 12:32 PM mipadi There was a coup of some military officers that wa... Jul 26 2005, 12:35 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 26 2005, 12:35 PM)There wa... Jul 26 2005, 12:39 PM mipadi QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 26 2005, 1:39 PM)... Jul 26 2005, 12:40 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 26 2005, 12:40 PM)I'm ... Jul 26 2005, 12:43 PM mipadi QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 26 2005, 1:43 PM)... Jul 26 2005, 12:52 PM sadolakced acid ever heard of a guerilla resistance?
just because... Jul 26 2005, 09:35 PM mipadi Actually, I believe you're the one arguing tha... Jul 27 2005, 12:09 PM sadolakced acid oh what, so bombing a military target isn't ju... Jul 27 2005, 05:23 PM |
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