Liberals are lame Options

[*Steven*]

Discuss. Yes I'm generalizing. Yes I feel this way about the majority who try to be politically active. Why shouldn't I? They think they know whats best for everyone and think they're always right and that they're always doing the right thing. Take for instance, everyone who shuns people who don't agree with the global warming hype.

OMG GLOBAL WARMING IS HAPPENING STOP DRIVING STOP THE INDUSTRY! IT'LL SAVE THE WORLD WE KNOW WHATS BEST!!!

See my point?

[*Uronacid*]

I don't know to much about the subject (I'm not a liberal, and it's a very complicated subject if you haven't studied it). Liberals are all about change, but I think that they tend to forget about the future (especially economic liberals). Many of the rules and regulations they tend to brew up make people feel good NOW, but are likely to hurt us later. They aren't investing in the future of the country. They're simply trying to get what they want, when they want it. I think it's lame because eventually they're going to start sacrificing our rights for stupid shit that just isn't necessary. I tend to see them focusing on things that "feel" right, but aren't actually going to help. It seems like conservatives are willing to get their hands dirty.

I definitely lean towards being a conservative, but I don't agree with all of their ideas either. I think that the best thing would be to find a happy median between the two. Trouble is, there are large percentages of people out there that think unnecessary changes are going to help the world become a better place. We need to prioritize, and everyone has a different plan. They're all playing off each other in a giant game of "tug-o-war", and nothing is getting done. Their like a bunch of toddles who are playing with building blocks, building towers with their own blocks, and constantly knocking other towers over.

Fuck, political parties are just so annoying.

Better to fight for the planet than against a same-sex couple who wants equal rights.

You're not even clever by saying this. I don't think that majority of people who are against homosexual marriage "fight" against it. Yes, if the topic comes up in discussion we give our opinions, but this doesn't mean that we go out of our way to start verbal fights with people who disagree with our point of view. I will simply vote against it. Presto!, no fighting, just the flick of a switch or the push of a button. The only people who blow steam are the individuals who are fighting for same-sex marriage.

I think you should change that phrase to, "Better to fight for the planet than for a same-sex couple who wants equal rights." Win.

Yes, we are all perfectly well aware that the Republicans spend just as much as the Democrats.

Nevertheless, I can't imagine how you could seriously believe that conservatives impose fewer restrictions over people's lives. Conservatives are all about f**king with social freedoms. Not all Republicans, no, but you hadn't mentioned them to begin with. Still, gay marriage bans, abortion bans, stem cell research restrictions, are all things that the right strives for, while the left most certainly does not. From a liberal perspective, legalized marijuana makes much more sense, and alcohol should be sold on Sundays because there should actually be a separation between church and state (I don't know what other states that's the case in, but it's definitely still the way in Georgia, as this is such a ridiculously red state).
But liberals make all the "lame-ass rules that dictate our life." Right.

Gay marriage: I see it as a majority rule and not a conservative stand. I'm a conservative. I will vote no, but when it's legalized I won't have a problem. There is no reason to bitch.

Abortion: is murder in some people's eyes. People have different views on this. It's another majority rule, it just so happens that the majority of conservatives think that murdering a child is wrong.

Stem Cell Research: I personally could care less about this one, it's one area where I agree with you. This should be legalized, but rules should be placed on top of this keep people from harvesting infants.

Marijuana: Ok, all the friends I had in high school that became a friend to Mary Jane are now complete idiots. I don't hang out with them anymore, and they will probably never have lives. Personal experience is more than enough reason to say no to the pot. Yes, even you were become a low life Jeremy.

Alcohol on Sunday: ask all the people who have had their children hit by drunk drivers this question. Having one day a week where liquor stores aren't open is definitely going to effect the number of drunk drivers on the road. Although you could tie this to religion, I don't think you should ban a law if it's clearly doing good for our communities.

Liberal rules and regulations are often selfish, feel-good-NOW-and-f**k-our-future rules. Conservatives are all about majority rule, sucks to be the minority doesn't it.

[*CowerPointyObjects*]

You're not even clever by saying this. I don't think that majority of people who are against homosexual marriage "fight" against it. Yes, if the topic comes up in discussion we give our opinions, but this doesn't mean that we go out of our way to start verbal fights with people who disagree with our point of view. I will simply vote against it. Presto!, no fighting, just the flick of a switch or the push of a button. The only people who blow steam are the individuals who are fighting for same-sex marriage.

I think you should change that phrase to, "Better to fight for the planet than for a same-sex couple who wants equal rights." Win.

That's not even close to what I was saying.

If you really want me to stop calling you an idiot, stop trying to argue with me when you don't even get my point.

Gay marriage: I see it as a majority rule and not a conservative stand. I'm a conservative. I will vote no, but when it's legalized I won't have a problem. There is no reason to bitch.

You shouldn't have a problem, seeing as it doesn't effect you. Why bother voting against it?

Abortion: is murder in some people's eyes. People have different views on this. It's another majority rule, it just so happens that the majority of conservatives think that murdering a child is wrong.

I am perfectly well aware of that, but that isn't what we're discussing in here. Of course it's the position the majority of conservatives take; I am familiar with both sides of the issue, but I disagree. However, it doesn't matter that most conservatives think that, because only the WHOLE majority matters, not just the majority of one sect. Abortion is still legal, and it should stay that way.

Marijuana: Ok, all the friends I had in high school that became a friend to Mary Jane are now complete idiots. I don't hang out with them anymore, and they will probably never have lives. Personal experience is more than enough reason to say no to the pot. Yes, even you were become a low life Jeremy.

"You were become a low life"? Come on, you can do better than that.
Anyway, by legalizing pot, I'm not saying that everyone should suddenly start smoking, but people are doing it regardless, and economically it makes a whole hell of a lot more sense to have it legal, especially from a capitalist perspective. Economic conservatives would probably agree if they didn't enjoy keeping foreign pot out so much.

Alcohol on Sunday: ask all the people who have had their children hit by drunk drivers this question. Having one day a week where liquor stores aren't open is definitely going to effect the number of drunk drivers on the road. Although you could tie this to religion, I don't think you should ban a law if it's clearly doing good for our communities.

No, think about it. One day will make absolutely no difference. People can stock up on Saturdays. Therefore, no clear good.

[*Uronacid*]

That's not even close to what I was saying.

If you really want me to stop calling you an idiot, stop trying to argue with me when you don't even get my point. You shouldn't have a problem, seeing as it doesn't effect you. Why bother voting against it?

By you're first post I thought you meant:
Liberals Fight for Earth > Than Conservatives Fighting Against Homosexuality


What I am saying is:
Most conservatives don't fight against it. We simply vote against it., Because I think it's morally wrong, I'm sorry if that offends you. I don't look down on homosexuals. I'm not out to burn them at the stake. They can do what they want. I sin, they sin, everybody sins, but regardless of who is sinning or what sin it is I'm not going to vote "yes" so that people can legalize what I believe is sin. I know that you won't understand that, but there are many who will.

I am perfectly well aware of that, but that isn't what we're discussing in here. Of course it's the position the majority of conservatives take; I am familiar with both sides of the issue, but I disagree. However, it doesn't matter that most conservatives think that, because only the WHOLE majority matters, not just the majority of one sect. Abortion is still legal, and it should stay that way.

and I don't fight it in real life because the WHOLE majority does matter. On the other hand, if someone asks my opinion on the subject then I will tell them. The same way you disagree with the WHOLE majority on same-sex marriages. Although, that majority is shifting.

"You were become a low life"? Come on, you can do better than that. Anyway, by legalizing pot, I'm not saying that everyone should suddenly start smoking, but people are doing it regardless, and economically it makes a whole hell of a lot more sense to have it legal, especially from a capitalist perspective. Economic conservatives would probably agree if they didn't enjoy keeping foreign pot out so much.

"You were become a low life"?
God, that was bad... it would supposed to read, "Even you were becoming a 'low-life'." Anyway, I don't think that it would do the economy good at all. What are the side effects of pot smoking. One of the major ones is laziness. People loose their drive. If smoking was legalized then people would be doping up all the time (more often than they do now). It would be bad for our economy because an even larger percentage of our economy would fall into stupidity and laziness.

More stupid people in the United States of America. = Less capitol for the United States of America.

No, think about it. One day will make absolutely no difference. People can stock up on Saturdays. Therefore, no clear good.

It does make a difference because it takes them that much longer to do it. Forceing them to stock up makes them think why they are doing it, and reinforces the idea of "drunk driving being a no-no".

Also what with the taking money from my paycheck to give money to people who don't work, beat their wives, buy crack, or to give money to people who made bad investments or didn't save up for retirement? Gay.

I would much rather have a flat tax. Fuck the poor, most of them are that way for a reason. People are poor because of bad decisions, not bad luck. Why should I be forced to pay for your poor choices. The higher my salary, the more this bothers me.