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Liberals are lame
*Steven*
post Oct 3 2007, 04:04 PM
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Discuss. Yes I'm generalizing. Yes I feel this way about the majority who try to be politically active. Why shouldn't I? They think they know whats best for everyone and think they're always right and that they're always doing the right thing. Take for instance, everyone who shuns people who don't agree with the global warming hype.

QUOTE(Aging Hippie Liberal Douche)
OMG GLOBAL WARMING IS HAPPENING STOP DRIVING STOP THE INDUSTRY! IT'LL SAVE THE WORLD WE KNOW WHATS BEST!!!


See my point?
 
 
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*Uronacid*
post Oct 4 2007, 07:21 AM
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I don't know to much about the subject (I'm not a liberal, and it's a very complicated subject if you haven't studied it). Liberals are all about change, but I think that they tend to forget about the future (especially economic liberals). Many of the rules and regulations they tend to brew up make people feel good NOW, but are likely to hurt us later. They aren't investing in the future of the country. They're simply trying to get what they want, when they want it. I think it's lame because eventually they're going to start sacrificing our rights for stupid shit that just isn't necessary. I tend to see them focusing on things that "feel" right, but aren't actually going to help. It seems like conservatives are willing to get their hands dirty.

I definitely lean towards being a conservative, but I don't agree with all of their ideas either. I think that the best thing would be to find a happy median between the two. Trouble is, there are large percentages of people out there that think unnecessary changes are going to help the world become a better place. We need to prioritize, and everyone has a different plan. They're all playing off each other in a giant game of "tug-o-war", and nothing is getting done. Their like a bunch of toddles who are playing with building blocks, building towers with their own blocks, and constantly knocking other towers over.

Fuck, political parties are just so annoying.

QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Oct 3 2007, 05:35 PM) *
Better to fight for the planet than against a same-sex couple who wants equal rights.


You're not even clever by saying this. I don't think that majority of people who are against homosexual marriage "fight" against it. Yes, if the topic comes up in discussion we give our opinions, but this doesn't mean that we go out of our way to start verbal fights with people who disagree with our point of view. I will simply vote against it. Presto!, no fighting, just the flick of a switch or the push of a button. The only people who blow steam are the individuals who are fighting for same-sex marriage.

I think you should change that phrase to, "Better to fight for the planet than for a same-sex couple who wants equal rights." Win.

QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Oct 4 2007, 12:36 AM) *
Yes, we are all perfectly well aware that the Republicans spend just as much as the Democrats.

Nevertheless, I can't imagine how you could seriously believe that conservatives impose fewer restrictions over people's lives. Conservatives are all about f**king with social freedoms. Not all Republicans, no, but you hadn't mentioned them to begin with. Still, gay marriage bans, abortion bans, stem cell research restrictions, are all things that the right strives for, while the left most certainly does not. From a liberal perspective, legalized marijuana makes much more sense, and alcohol should be sold on Sundays because there should actually be a separation between church and state (I don't know what other states that's the case in, but it's definitely still the way in Georgia, as this is such a ridiculously red state).
But liberals make all the "lame-ass rules that dictate our life." Right.


Gay marriage:
I see it as a majority rule and not a conservative stand. I'm a conservative. I will vote no, but when it's legalized I won't have a problem. There is no reason to bitch.

Abortion: is murder in some people's eyes. People have different views on this. It's another majority rule, it just so happens that the majority of conservatives think that murdering a child is wrong.

Stem Cell Research: I personally could care less about this one, it's one area where I agree with you. This should be legalized, but rules should be placed on top of this keep people from harvesting infants.

Marijuana: Ok, all the friends I had in high school that became a friend to Mary Jane are now complete idiots. I don't hang out with them anymore, and they will probably never have lives. Personal experience is more than enough reason to say no to the pot. Yes, even you were become a low life Jeremy.

Alcohol on Sunday: ask all the people who have had their children hit by drunk drivers this question. Having one day a week where liquor stores aren't open is definitely going to effect the number of drunk drivers on the road. Although you could tie this to religion, I don't think you should ban a law if it's clearly doing good for our communities.

Liberal rules and regulations are often selfish, feel-good-NOW-and-f**k-our-future rules. Conservatives are all about majority rule, sucks to be the minority doesn't it.
 
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post Oct 4 2007, 08:15 AM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Oct 4 2007, 08:21 AM) *
You're not even clever by saying this. I don't think that majority of people who are against homosexual marriage "fight" against it. Yes, if the topic comes up in discussion we give our opinions, but this doesn't mean that we go out of our way to start verbal fights with people who disagree with our point of view. I will simply vote against it. Presto!, no fighting, just the flick of a switch or the push of a button. The only people who blow steam are the individuals who are fighting for same-sex marriage.

I think you should change that phrase to, "Better to fight for the planet than for a same-sex couple who wants equal rights."

^Well that's a lie. I think you forget, Josh, the many, many, many arguments you and I have had about different issues, many of them stemming from my support of Homosexuality and your misguided views against it.

As for me, I guess I would call myself an Independent. I have conservative and liberal stances on different issues, and I think that's really the only way to do it right. Anyone who follows what their party says just for the sake of agreeing with the party is an idiot.

I am for the death penalty, and think that the punishments on rape and murder are too lenient. Someone who rapes a child should be put in front of a firing squad, in my opinion.

I don't care about the environment. As long as no dumping of toxic wastes happen in a pond or something my kids swim in, I dont think I will ever care.

Im for abortion and stem cell research. Let a woman choose what to do with her body. And the probabilities of stem cell research are just too great to not proceed with further studies.

I am for Gay rights, let them do what they want. They're not gonna drop trou and just bone on the street, I mean you gay haters are wayyyy too uptight about that. When will you ever see them? If it bothers you that much, move, or just avoid them.

As for economic liberals are concerned, I agree, they are f**king annoying. FUR IS MURDER! If I bought my wife or girlfriend a $2000 fur coat and some hippie bitch threw paint on it, I would beat the living shit out of that chick. I would break her face open, f**k the consequences. But they really arent any more annoying than these assholes you see in front of abortion clinics holding signs, trying to make people feel guilty. Its like "Wow, so this is what you do with your life? You're a f**king loser." Anti-war protestors piss me off, the people who protest the death penalty piss me off, union protests piss me off, protestors in general just piss me off.

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That stupid black guy who does the anti-smoking commercials pisses me off sooooo goddamn much. He is the most retarded little a-hole and I wish death on him. Every single time I turn on the tv, he's like "So in 1962, a tobacco company said this...but OH NO, it was proven wrong. So now in 2007, we're gonna throw it in their face." How about you grow some balls and start attacking the people who are actually smoking, instead of the companies supplying the cigarettes. There is not one person who smokes who the tobacco company went up to and said "YOU HAVE TO SMOKE THIS!!!" And that whole smoking in movies rule is just stupid(I'm refering to a bill they are trying to pass that would make any movie where someone smokes cigarettes rated R). Stop trying to force what you think is right on other people. If people want to smoke, let them f**king smoke.

QUOTE(Uronacid @ Oct 4 2007, 08:21 AM) *
Yes, even you were become a low life Jeremy.

Dude, do not even compare me to them. Just cause you have a big problem with it doesnt mean everyone has to. I've never gone to work stoned, Ive never gone to school stoned either. If I've had a bad day, which recently has been quite often because I work every weekend and go to school every morning, I'll go home and smoke a little. Im not saying its not wrong, but Im not overdoing it like other people you and I know. If and when I ever smoke during the day, it's when I know for a fact that I have absolutely nothing to do later on, and 95% of the time Im smoking alone in my room before I go to bed. Not walking the streets, not getting arrested, just relaxing after a long day. So again, don't compare me with them.
 
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post Oct 4 2007, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Oct 4 2007, 09:15 AM) *
^Well that's a lie. I think you forget, Josh, the many, many, many arguments you and I have had about different issues, many of them stemming from my support of Homosexuality and your misguided views against it.


The last argument we had wasn't about the rights. It was about them being born gay, and before that... I don't even remember. It was at least a year to two years ago. We only fight and bicker because we're friends.

Omg, and the liberal-jackass came up with the smoking in "rated R" movies idea should be slowly cooked over a pit of lava.
 

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Steven   Liberals are lame   Oct 3 2007, 04:04 PM
AThorpedo   QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 3 2007, 04:04 PM) See ...   Oct 3 2007, 04:29 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(AThorpedo @ Oct 3 2007, 04:29 PM) Y...   Oct 3 2007, 11:12 PM
CowerPointyObjects   Better to fight for the planet than against a same...   Oct 3 2007, 04:35 PM
cyb3r0ptik   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Oct 3 2007, 05...   Oct 3 2007, 07:16 PM
Steven   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Oct 3 2007, 04...   Oct 3 2007, 07:41 PM
kryogenix   Liberals suck gay gorilla penis.   Oct 3 2007, 05:52 PM
cyb3r0ptik   you can always find reasons to hate either stance....   Oct 3 2007, 08:48 PM
Steven   Whoa whoa cowboy, I'm very open to the world, ...   Oct 3 2007, 08:53 PM
cyb3r0ptik   well i'm all for environmentalism, and peta, a...   Oct 3 2007, 09:27 PM
Michelle   I'M IMPARTIAL! ^_^ I don't know... ...   Oct 3 2007, 09:31 PM
Steven   LOL PETA Didn't they like, slaughter 15,000 a...   Oct 3 2007, 09:33 PM
Michelle   PETA has some f**ked up ways of convincing people ...   Oct 3 2007, 09:34 PM
Steven   Like taking 15,000 to-be-adopted animals and when ...   Oct 3 2007, 09:37 PM
Steven   BUT conservatives didn't try to grant amnesty ...   Oct 3 2007, 11:15 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 3 2007, 11:15 PM) BUT ...   Oct 3 2007, 11:23 PM
CowerPointyObjects   QUOTEconservatives aren't making all these lam...   Oct 3 2007, 11:22 PM
Steven   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Oct 3 2007, 11...   Oct 3 2007, 11:28 PM
CowerPointyObjects   QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 4 2007, 12:28 AM) I do...   Oct 3 2007, 11:36 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 3 2007, 11:28 PM) Libe...   Oct 3 2007, 11:37 PM
Steven   Let me rephrase. Economic liberals suck. I'm ...   Oct 4 2007, 07:06 AM
Uronacid   I don't know to much about the subject (I...   Oct 4 2007, 07:21 AM
The-Abominable-CPillar   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Oct 4 2007, 08:21 AM) Yo...   Oct 4 2007, 08:15 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Oct ...   Oct 4 2007, 08:33 AM
CowerPointyObjects   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Oct 4 2007, 08:21 AM) Yo...   Oct 4 2007, 11:33 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Oct 4 2007, 12...   Oct 4 2007, 02:28 PM
Steven   Also what with the taking money from my paycheck t...   Oct 4 2007, 12:33 PM
tungmyBANANA   f**k LIBERALS. ITS ALL ABOUT THE GREEN HOUSE PARTY...   Oct 4 2007, 02:46 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(tungmyBANANA @ Oct 4 2007, 03:46 PM...   Oct 4 2007, 03:35 PM
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Steven   QUOTE(Michelle @ Oct 4 2007, 11:10 PM) Wo...   Oct 4 2007, 11:11 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 4 2007, 11:11 PM) Haha...   Oct 4 2007, 11:49 PM
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Steven   Right but all of that was just an attack on Josh. ...   Oct 4 2007, 11:06 PM
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Steven   QUOTE(NoSex @ Oct 5 2007, 01:47 AM) Riiii...   Oct 5 2007, 07:14 AM
tungmyBANANA   Did someone say naturist? ehehehehehehe   Oct 5 2007, 01:56 AM
Steven   Just because the war is immensely unpopular doesn...   Oct 10 2007, 03:43 PM
CowerPointyObjects   Who are you to say who is or isn't "free ...   Oct 10 2007, 07:16 PM
Steven   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Oct 10 2007, 07...   Oct 10 2007, 10:07 PM
The-Abominable-CPillar   You people are idiots. Not one of you fuckers know...   Oct 11 2007, 08:00 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Oct ...   Oct 11 2007, 11:14 AM
The-Abominable-CPillar   QUOTE(NoSex @ Oct 11 2007, 12:14 PM) Well...   Oct 12 2007, 11:20 AM
Steven   QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Oct ...   Oct 12 2007, 11:21 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 12 2007, 12:21 PM) Can...   Oct 12 2007, 01:05 PM
AThorpedo   QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Oct ...   Oct 15 2007, 03:43 PM
Steven   QUOTE(AThorpedo @ Oct 15 2007, 03:43 PM) ...   Oct 15 2007, 08:29 PM
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Steven   QUOTE(AThorpedo @ Oct 15 2007, 11:43 PM) ...   Oct 16 2007, 07:08 AM
The-Abominable-CPillar   QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 16 2007, 08:08 AM) Unl...   Oct 16 2007, 07:51 AM
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NoSex   QUOTE(Steven @ Oct 15 2007, 09:10 AM) Bla...   Oct 15 2007, 06:47 PM
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