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Is homosexuality determined at birth, or is it a choice?
ernestprongs
post Aug 27 2007, 03:18 AM
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brooklyneast05
post Sep 22 2007, 03:17 PM
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we aren't dogs
we aren't talking about if homosexuality is a choice for dogs
we're talking about humans

what's normal for an animal isn't necessarily normal for a human, and they often do things for different reasons than humans. ever heard of male dogs mounting each other as a way of showing dominance? not necessarily for sexual pleasure. just because a dog performs a "homosexual act" doesn't mean that dog is gay, or that it prefers male dogs, because the same dog would probably do the same thing with a female. it's ridiculous to base ur opinion off what animals do, because sexual orientation in animals and sexual orientation in humans are completely different.
 
*Insurmountable*
post Sep 22 2007, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 22 2007, 04:17 PM) *
we aren't dogs
we aren't talking about if homosexuality is a choice for dogs
we're talking about humans

what's normal for an animal isn't necessarily normal for a human, and they often do things for different reasons than humans. ever heard of male dogs mounting each other as a way of showing dominance? not necessarily for sexual pleasure. just because a dog performs a "homosexual act" doesn't mean that dog is gay, or that it prefers male dogs, because the same dog would probably do the same thing with a female. it's ridiculous to base ur opinion off what animals do, because sexual orientation in animals and sexual orientation in humans are completely different.


omfg, thank you!


Personally I think its by the experiences you go through in life that kind of affect what orientation you are. I mean think about it.

A woman is raped by a guy she may have been closed to and once straight but after so a traumatic trauma she just doesn't want to be with men or trust them because something like that happened so she turns over to women because it seems like she can trust them more.

I'm no ignorant, but I can't possibly understand how the hell theres a gay gene.
 
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post Sep 23 2007, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Sep 22 2007, 04:33 PM) *
I'm no ignorant, but I can't possibly understand how the hell theres a gay gene.

Okay, so you're just closed-minded, then.

Josh, I am revolted that you are still spewing your shit in this topic after all these months. I should report you for what you said to that girl a couple of posts ago, too. Not to mention your racist comments. Holy shit, now I'm actually going to report you because you never cease to be a nasty little bugger.

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Gay people should stop trying to press this "I'm born gay" issue, and just accept that they want to be gay. I personally could care less if you or anyone you know is a homosexual. In fact, I don't mind homosexuals at all. At the same time, when in Rome. You don't goto the crypts and tell them your a blood. You play along, and try your best to fit in so you don't get your ass kicked. The only point I'm trying to make in saying this is:

If your going to be some flamboyant homosexual with tight pants and a pink shirt then you should just accept the fact that society doesn't take well to people who are clearly standing out. Why do you think people hang together in groups? Because they have similar ideas, they compliment each other. A flamboyant homosexual with a bunch of jocks would just seem out of place because it is out of place. They aren't going to accept this queer kid with a lisp. It's not because he's gay, it's just because he's a f**king alien to them.

Please, make a less rational point next time. In what universe does it make sense to say that being gay is a choice because flamboyant gays don't fit in with jocks? First off, not every football player in existence is a narrow minded jackass; some actually have gay friends. Secondly, are you trying to suggest that they're trying to get mainstream society to reject them? Because that's just silly. As far as I can tell from your indecipherable bullshit about the blood and crypts, you're disproving your own 'point.' People don't try not to fit in, so it must be natural for them not to. By saying, "you play along, and try your best to fit in so you don't get your ass kicked," you're suggesting that homosexuals would actually have to play along to seem straight, which would make it a natural thing and not a choice, because in what way does it make sense to suggest that someone should try really hard not to fit in as they simultaneously pretend they do? I cannot believe how dense you are.
 
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post Sep 23 2007, 02:38 AM
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QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Sep 23 2007, 01:56 AM) *
Okay, so you're just closed-minded, then.

Josh, I am revolted that you are still spewing your shit in this topic after all these months. I should report you for what you said to that girl a couple of posts ago, too. Not to mention your racist comments. Holy shit, now I'm actually going to report you because you never cease to be a nasty little bugger.
Please, make a less rational point next time. In what universe does it make sense to say that being gay is a choice because flamboyant gays don't fit in with jocks? First off, not every football player in existence is a narrow minded jackass; some actually have gay friends. Secondly, are you trying to suggest that they're trying to get mainstream society to reject them? Because that's just silly. As far as I can tell from your indecipherable bullshit about the blood and crypts, you're disproving your own 'point.' People don't try not to fit in, so it must be natural for them not to. By saying, "you play along, and try your best to fit in so you don't get your ass kicked," you're suggesting that homosexuals would actually have to play along to seem straight, which would make it a natural thing and not a choice, because in what way does it make sense to suggest that someone should try really hard not to fit in as they simultaneously pretend they do? I cannot believe how dense you are.


So, you reported me for my opinion in a debate. Wow, you're 18 years old. Are you still in the "I'm gonna' tell the teacher on you!" phase? When are you going to learn that I don't give a fuck. Hey, while you're out there telling on me for my "ignorant" opinion why don't you go fuck yourself with a tampon. Tell them I said you're a cunt too. Oh, and would you like some cheese with that whine? xD

Also, I'm sorry it was so confusing for you. I was merely saying that if you're going to be a flamboyant gay then the chances of not being accepted are likely to be very high because barely anyone relate to your lifestyle.

I guess I feel like a large percentage of these flamboyant gays who aren't "accepted" want to blame it on genes or birth so they can place the fault of not being accepted on something other than themselves. I think that these "extreme" homosexuals should just accept the fact that many people aren't going to accept them because they are so blatantly different. I'll admit, the bloods and the crypts were extreme, but meh... I like extreme.

I'll try to be less extreme for your sake, sense you don't seem to understand. I'm sure the people who weren't going out of their way to tear my post to shreds would have understood it.

I'm sorry, a flamboyant gay probably wouldn't get accepted by Jocks. Not all Jocks are the same. I agree, but in general you aren't accepted by groups you cannot relate to (this includes myself).

I apologize for being such a narrow minded idiot. I'll tip toe around every bush I see from now on. Try not to put words in my mouth next time. You should probably stop shoving that stick up your ass. I've heard that if you shove it up to far, internal bleeding may occur. That may not be your period blood when your taking a shit. On the other hand and based upon the majority of your posts, you may just be on an eternal menstrual phase. Either way, you should definitely consult a doctor. ;]

I am revolted... no I'm not. I'm just laughing at you for being so upset. Oh, before you tell me you aren't upset and that you don't care, I guess I assumed you were upset because you took the time to sit there and tell me how insanely revolted you were.

Your favorite black homosexual,

Josh ????

QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 23 2007, 02:49 AM) *
oh i get what u mean now
i only thought that since u said "in this topic"

and im jc, why?
who are u


She is Menstruation. Find it in the dictionary, you'll see her face even though it's not in her profile. Watch out, she'll tear your bloody head off.

QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ XXX XX XXXX, XX:XX XX) *
I am menstruation. No one rules the mencese like me; not this fuck, none of you little fucks out there. I AM THE CATAMENIA COMMANDER! When it comes down to takin' care of business, here's what I do. I grab it...then I put on my nose like this...and im like, "OH youz little fuck..."

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QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Sep 23 2007, 02:50 AM) *
Can we all try to be civil and stop resorting to insults? It's called DEBATE. We're bound to have different opinions. With this said, Josh, you've been verbally warned.


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FelixFelicis   Is homosexuality determined at birth, or is it a choice?   Aug 27 2007, 03:18 AM
Steven   I've never seen it, and if it has been mention...   Aug 27 2007, 07:45 AM
Bishinobi   I'm not quite sure, actually. I don't know...   Aug 27 2007, 08:39 AM
Uronacid   I think that it's a mental retardation. I pity...   Aug 27 2007, 08:39 AM
omgomgKATHY   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 27 2007, 09:39 AM) I...   Aug 27 2007, 10:19 PM
xKatt   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 27 2007, 08:39 AM) I...   Sep 3 2007, 07:42 PM
SoEffinMajor   i dont find homosexuality to be a choice nor do i ...   Aug 27 2007, 10:17 PM
XxSugarKisses-TeddyHugsxX   I think that it would be a choice or in some cases...   Sep 12 2007, 02:52 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(XxSugarKisses-TeddyHugsxX @ Sep 12...   Sep 20 2007, 07:25 AM
sheridan_whiteside   It's determined by a great number of factors, ...   Aug 27 2007, 10:40 PM
Fist   I dont believe in homosexuality. to me, they are j...   Aug 27 2007, 11:04 PM
omgomgKATHY   ^whatever floats their boat?   Aug 28 2007, 01:42 AM
Uronacid   Guys, haven't you ever felt the slightest urge...   Aug 28 2007, 08:31 AM
ojairus   rofl uronacid ur a funny guy.   Aug 28 2007, 09:44 PM
JakeKKing   It's nothing more than a sexual preference. It...   Aug 29 2007, 12:32 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Aug 29 2007, 01:32 PM) ...   Aug 29 2007, 09:30 PM
tungtwista   I don't know. but people here on cB thinks im ...   Aug 29 2007, 10:21 PM
cyb3r0ptik   to everybody that thinks that gay men=anal sex... ...   Aug 30 2007, 12:20 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(cyb3r0ptik @ Aug 30 2007, 01:20 PM)...   Aug 30 2007, 04:52 PM
cyb3r0ptik   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 30 2007, 05:52 PM) O...   Sep 2 2007, 02:54 PM
Michelle   Why specifically at birth? Most of us, "homo...   Aug 30 2007, 06:46 PM
kimmytree   I think it's both. I think some people can be ...   Sep 2 2007, 05:18 PM
Sandraaa   Homosexuality to me is a choice and is also determ...   Sep 2 2007, 05:32 PM
pinacoolada   QUOTEI think that it's a mental retardation. I...   Sep 2 2007, 05:59 PM
madgamer   I think its learn behavior of how you were raise w...   Sep 3 2007, 02:23 AM
Joss-eh-lime   its a choice. a lifestyle no one was born that way...   Sep 3 2007, 07:58 PM
Uronacid   If I were to post seriously: I would have to say ...   Sep 4 2007, 12:07 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 4 2007, 01:07 PM) As...   Sep 4 2007, 03:24 PM
Fist   ^ who cares. we'll use nano tech to use a homo...   Sep 4 2007, 02:08 PM
Sandraaa   ^ I didn't get that either. Josh, please elab...   Sep 5 2007, 07:36 AM
Uronacid   Ok, just think, for thousands of years people have...   Sep 5 2007, 08:18 AM
kimmytree   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 5 2007, 09:18 AM) Ok...   Sep 5 2007, 02:22 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Sep 5 2007, 03:22 PM) O...   Sep 6 2007, 11:15 AM
Michelle   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 5 2007, 08:18 AM) Ok...   Sep 5 2007, 07:44 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Michelle @ Sep 5 2007, 08:44 PM) Oh...   Sep 6 2007, 09:08 AM
Michelle   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 6 2007, 09:08 AM) Mi...   Sep 6 2007, 04:17 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Michelle @ Sep 6 2007, 05:17 PM) Oh...   Sep 6 2007, 08:09 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(Michelle @ Sep 6 2007, 05:17 PM) Oh...   Sep 6 2007, 08:56 PM
Michelle   QUOTE(Podomaht @ Sep 6 2007, 08:56 PM) So...   Sep 6 2007, 09:25 PM
resplendence   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 5 2007, 09:18 AM) Ok...   Sep 6 2007, 09:23 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 5 2007, 08:18 AM) Ok...   Sep 7 2007, 01:24 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(NoSex @ Sep 7 2007, 02:24 AM) Wow, ...   Sep 7 2007, 09:04 AM
NoSex   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 7 2007, 09:04 AM) Wo...   Sep 9 2007, 03:05 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(NoSex @ Sep 9 2007, 04:05 AM) You l...   Sep 9 2007, 08:03 PM
Steven   ^That and the whole thing where until recently peo...   Sep 5 2007, 09:04 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Steven @ Sep 5 2007, 10:04 AM) ^Tha...   Sep 5 2007, 01:16 PM
Steven   So gays are mutants and have a problem? Not just ...   Sep 5 2007, 07:40 PM
Dreamers   I agree with one person on a point they said ...   Sep 5 2007, 07:55 PM
VaeVictis   I don't believe it's a choice at all. Peo...   Sep 6 2007, 04:30 PM
LoveDanceSoul   I think it could be both. Some guys that are now ...   Sep 6 2007, 04:42 PM
DarkImpressions   I would say determined at birth.   Sep 6 2007, 09:27 PM
JakeKKing   I don't understand why everyone is still talki...   Sep 11 2007, 10:23 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Sep 11 2007, 11:23 PM) ...   Sep 12 2007, 08:14 AM
MissFits   It's determined in the womb. There are gay an...   Sep 20 2007, 09:44 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(MissFits @ Sep 20 2007, 10:44 AM) I...   Sep 20 2007, 10:44 AM
MissFits   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 20 2007, 09:44 AM) G...   Sep 20 2007, 06:46 PM
cyb3r0ptik   QUOTE(MissFits @ Sep 20 2007, 07:46 PM) I...   Sep 20 2007, 07:52 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(MissFits @ Sep 20 2007, 06:46 PM) I...   Sep 20 2007, 07:58 PM
cyb3r0ptik   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 20 2007, 08:58...   Sep 20 2007, 08:19 PM
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brooklyneast05   QUOTE(cyb3r0ptik @ Sep 20 2007, 08:46 PM)...   Sep 20 2007, 08:50 PM
cyb3r0ptik   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 20 2007, 09:50...   Sep 20 2007, 08:55 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(MissFits @ Sep 20 2007, 07:46 PM) I...   Sep 20 2007, 09:22 PM
cyb3r0ptik   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 20 2007, 10:22 PM) J...   Sep 20 2007, 09:35 PM
MissFits   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Sep 20 2007, 08:22 PM) J...   Sep 21 2007, 08:36 PM
jammylise   I think it could be both. At birth and by choice. ...   Sep 20 2007, 12:35 PM
brooklyneast05   i guess it's the feminine thing i don't ge...   Sep 20 2007, 08:59 PM
MissFits   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 20 2007, 07:59...   Sep 20 2007, 09:03 PM
cyb3r0ptik   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 20 2007, 09:59...   Sep 20 2007, 09:17 PM
JakeKKing   cyberdick, I agrees with the dark homo man. He rai...   Sep 20 2007, 10:04 PM
cyb3r0ptik   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Sep 20 2007, 11:04 PM) ...   Sep 20 2007, 10:16 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(cyb3r0ptik @ Sep 20 2007, 11:16 PM)...   Sep 21 2007, 08:26 PM
Insurmountable   OMFG your ignorant at the fact that you really thi...   Sep 21 2007, 08:46 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Sep 21 2007, 08:46...   Sep 21 2007, 08:48 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Sep 21 2007, 09:46...   Sep 22 2007, 06:16 PM
MissFits   It can take years for things like food and drug al...   Sep 21 2007, 09:32 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(MissFits @ Sep 21 2007, 09:32 PM) I...   Sep 21 2007, 09:41 PM
MissFits   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 21 2007, 08:41...   Sep 22 2007, 07:05 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(MissFits @ Sep 22 2007, 07:05 AM) I...   Sep 22 2007, 10:11 AM
Joss-eh-lime   yeah, it's definitely a choice. whether consci...   Sep 22 2007, 01:47 AM
MissFits   Because it happens naturally in nature. No matter...   Sep 22 2007, 03:00 PM
brooklyneast05   we aren't dogs we aren't talking about if ...   Sep 22 2007, 03:17 PM
Insurmountable   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 22 2007, 04:17...   Sep 22 2007, 03:33 PM
CowerPointyObjects   QUOTE(Insurmountable @ Sep 22 2007, 04:33...   Sep 23 2007, 12:56 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Sep 23 2007, 12...   Sep 23 2007, 01:43 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Sep 23 2007, 01...   Sep 23 2007, 02:38 AM
MissFits   But, you are saying it is a learned behavior. Tha...   Sep 22 2007, 03:32 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(MissFits @ Sep 22 2007, 03:32 PM) B...   Sep 22 2007, 03:36 PM
NoSex   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 22 2007, 03:36...   Sep 22 2007, 06:25 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(NoSex @ Sep 22 2007, 07:25 PM) Actu...   Sep 22 2007, 07:12 PM
MissFits   I am not saying that, scientist are saying that. ...   Sep 22 2007, 03:41 PM
CowerPointyObjects   Who are you? And by 'all these months,' ...   Sep 23 2007, 01:47 AM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(CowerPointyObjects @ Sep 23 2007, 01...   Sep 23 2007, 01:49 AM
Sandraaa   Can we all try to be civil and stop resorting to i...   Sep 23 2007, 01:50 AM
Steven   Cower if you're going to report a post for bei...   Sep 23 2007, 08:15 AM
Sandraaa   Steven, I fail to see where Cower used insults.   Sep 23 2007, 09:43 AM
Steven   My bad, but if you're that offended by what he...   Sep 23 2007, 09:45 AM
Sandraaa   I verbally warned him for the bitch comment not hi...   Sep 23 2007, 09:56 AM
Steven   I'm not talking about you sandra.   Sep 23 2007, 10:01 AM
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