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post Sep 16 2007, 06:22 PM
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hey I just thought that if you have anything you hate and don't like or are mad about put it here and We will talk about it or just listen to your complaints!

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post Sep 17 2007, 12:41 PM
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ooooo....(I was being sarcastic Holly and you were caught in the blowback. I humbly apologize).

You want a Rant(a real goddamn rant, which I guess none of you bastards are capable of)? Well here goes goddamn it. Dont expect it to make sense, I don't even have a topic in mind, I'm just gonna write.

Ive just left a philosophy class of mine which raised a lot of questions I was unable to get answered or debate over. We were talking about Plato's allegory of the cave, how if there are a group of people chained to the wall of a cave, only able to see right in front of them and blind to what happens behind them, that is all they will ever know. But when one of them is forced from the cave into the world, he will eventually come back to the cave to share his newfound wisdom. Those still in the cave will not listen to him, he is the enemy. He is trying to destroy their way of life. This little allegory can be applied to every society. Now comes my point.

We were discussing the possibility of true individualism. There are many people who consider themselves an individual, you see them all the time. The funny thing is, for being individuals, there are tons of them. So how can a society of individuals actually be individuals? Especially in this age of fake knowledge accessible since childhood. Everyone knows that Victoria's Secret makes attractive underwear for women. Wait, why do we know that? The goddamn media feeding us this knowledge since birth. Or how about people who get huge spacers in there ears thinking "oh yeah, now I'm original", meanwhile there are thirty other people in the same school who have exactly the same thing. The Professor was explaining the ancient Greek philisophical notion that knowledge and individualism only comes from a true oneness with Nature. So we apply that to the modern world, but what do you know, there are hundreds of "individuals" joining greenpeace and becoming treehugging hippies only to realize that "oh no!" they're not as original as they thought. Basically the Professor was telling us an oxymoron. The only way to become wise is through knowledge, yet in a world where all knowledge is fabricated, the only knowledge available makes you incapable of logical thought and therefore stupid. Then something came to me. In a society of false knowledge, the only real knowledge would come from isolation. So to become wise, to become knowledgable, one must remove themselves from their generational society and relinquish all ideas gained from living among them. But what kind of life is that? So you're stuck, basically. Well, not all people. There are people who are completely content with isolation. But in a generation full of visual and audible impulses, wouldn't that drive most mad. Even if it doesn't, the person has been exposed to false knowledge too long. Any ideas of true knowledge are contradictory to every instinct he has. That is unless you were raised in isolation. But then, where does the want for knowledge originate from? The demand for true knowledge comes from those filled with false knowledge, but then those not introduced to false knowledge would have no real want of true knowledge. So is true knowledge a myth, an unobtainable reality that poets speak of and only fools strive for?

So where is the cave?

Is the cave the society? Yes. In a society of conformity, there cannot be true individuality.

Is the cave found in isolation? Yes. Were it not for the false knowledge of society, there is no need for the true knowledge found from isolation.

So how do we leave the cave?
 

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ironicly-beautiful   Rants   Sep 16 2007, 06:22 PM
Jinny   I hate how people ("friends") act all ni...   Sep 16 2007, 06:55 PM
ironicly-beautiful   I totally agree. I mean although I only know a few...   Sep 16 2007, 06:57 PM
brooklyneast05   id like to rant about my dislike for ur signature   Sep 16 2007, 07:03 PM
ironicly-beautiful   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 16 2007, 07:03...   Sep 16 2007, 07:19 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(ironicly-beautiful @ Sep 16 2007, ...   Sep 16 2007, 07:21 PM
ironicly-beautiful   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 16 2007, 07:21...   Sep 16 2007, 07:27 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(ironicly-beautiful @ Sep 16 2007, ...   Sep 16 2007, 07:30 PM
ironicly-beautiful   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 16 2007, 07:30...   Sep 16 2007, 07:33 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(ironicly-beautiful @ Sep 16 2007, ...   Sep 16 2007, 07:34 PM
ironicly-beautiful   QUOTE(ironicly-beautiful @ Sep 16 2007, ...   Sep 16 2007, 07:40 PM
The-Abominable-CPillar   QUOTE(ironicly-beautiful @ Sep 16 2007, ...   Sep 16 2007, 07:41 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Sep ...   Sep 16 2007, 07:44 PM
The-Abominable-CPillar   I cant stand it when people on CB create retarded ...   Sep 16 2007, 07:03 PM
The-Abominable-CPillar   It is a rather shitty picture. And when will you ...   Sep 16 2007, 07:33 PM
Michelle   There is someone I feel bad for, yet I despise. It...   Sep 16 2007, 07:50 PM
IVIike   I was just going to say there is a topic like this...   Sep 16 2007, 07:54 PM
brooklyneast05   could some more official members come and point ou...   Sep 16 2007, 07:56 PM
ironicly-beautiful   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 16 2007, 07:56...   Sep 16 2007, 07:59 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(ironicly-beautiful @ Sep 16 2007, ...   Sep 16 2007, 08:00 PM
Michelle   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Sep 16 2007, 07:56...   Sep 16 2007, 08:00 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Michelle @ Sep 16 2007, 08:00 PM) O...   Sep 16 2007, 08:01 PM
ironicly-beautiful   Seriously sarcastic people usually aren't like...   Sep 16 2007, 08:02 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(ironicly-beautiful @ Sep 16 2007, ...   Sep 16 2007, 08:03 PM
Steven   I'm sarcastic. A lot. A lot of people like m...   Sep 16 2007, 08:03 PM
ironicly-beautiful   Yea but probably not like them. They're arguin...   Sep 16 2007, 08:03 PM
Steven   Sarcasm is a useful tool in belittling people in a...   Sep 16 2007, 08:05 PM
ironicly-beautiful   Exactly my point. its not really a great thing...   Sep 16 2007, 08:08 PM
Steven   I don't think you're quite getting my poin...   Sep 16 2007, 08:09 PM
ironicly-beautiful   atleast I am trying my best, and please don't ...   Sep 16 2007, 08:13 PM
The-Abominable-CPillar   Jesus Christ woman, stop changing your goddamn sig...   Sep 16 2007, 08:14 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTEatleast I am trying my best, and please don...   Sep 16 2007, 08:16 PM
davinci   Damn, give the girl a break. And I asked her to c...   Sep 16 2007, 08:39 PM
Spencer   I think there's a topic like this in the VIP L...   Sep 16 2007, 08:43 PM
brooklyneast05   yes^ thanks   Sep 16 2007, 08:44 PM
Spencer   De nada.   Sep 16 2007, 09:09 PM
The-Abominable-CPillar   What's this about the VIP lounge?   Sep 17 2007, 12:14 PM
Insurmountable   Its the extra lounge that was made only for offici...   Sep 17 2007, 12:16 PM
The-Abominable-CPillar   ooooo....(I was being sarcastic Holly and you were...   Sep 17 2007, 12:41 PM
ambernoelnichols   AHHH, i have cramps. and my back hurts. I need som...   Sep 17 2007, 01:41 PM
MorbidAngel   I hate when people tell somebody to do something a...   Sep 17 2007, 04:24 PM
Steven   Your spelling is second to none. Your grammar is ...   Sep 17 2007, 04:28 PM
IVIike   I hate it when people typ3 lyk3 diisz all the time...   Sep 17 2007, 04:46 PM


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