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Affirmative Action, go away!
*Steven*
post Jul 31 2007, 10:35 AM
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Affirmative was created way back when to help blacks get back on their feet etc etc. Now it seems a lot of races use it as a crutch, assuming that because they're a minority that they'll get preferential treatment and that if they don't then it's racism. It was supposed to have just faded away as things became more and more equal, but lo and behold, it's still here.

Anyone think it should stay? What are your reasons?
 
 
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faydedprimadonna
post Aug 28 2007, 08:53 PM
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ok... i'm aware that my opinion is most likely going to make some waves, people are going to get all bent out of shape, and i'll most likely be labelled as a racist... NOTE THIS: i really don't care...

i believe that affirmative action is a complete and utter misuse of the system... i was under the impression that america was all about "the best man for the job"... i always thought that the person who is MOST qualified should get the job... affirmative action is spitting in the face of that... two people take a civil service exam, one guy scores an 85% and the other guy scores a 90%... who should get the job? the 90%, right? common sense says YES! unfortunately, because of affirmative action, if the 85% is a black guy, they give him the job... i'm sorry, but that's just RETARDED! i was under the impression that "african-americans" just wanted to be "equal" and people should just "ignore the color of someone's skin"... well... those statements completely contradict their actions... 3/4 of my family came to america from ireland... should i hunt down the rich family that made my ancestors indentured servants and demand reparations? i think that if you cry for equality, then you should live equally to everyone else... this country is f**ked up enough as it is without it's own people raping it as well
 
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post Aug 30 2007, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(faydedprimadonna @ Aug 28 2007, 08:53 PM) *
ok...
i believe that affirmative action is a complete and utter misuse of the system... i was under the impression that america was all about "the best man for the job"... i always thought that the person who is MOST qualified should get the job... affirmative action is spitting in the face of that... two people take a civil service exam, one guy scores an 85% and the other guy scores a 90%... who should get the job? the 90%, right? common sense says YES! unfortunately, because of affirmative action, if the 85% is a black guy, they give him the job... i'm sorry, but that's just RETARDED! i was under the impression that "african-americans" just wanted to be "equal" and people should just "ignore the color of someone's skin"... well... those statements completely contradict their actions... 3/4 of my family came to america from ireland... should i hunt down the rich family that made my ancestors indentured servants and demand reparations? i think that if you cry for equality, then you should live equally to everyone else... this country is f**ked up enough as it is without it's own people raping it as well


i don't think anyone is really disagreeing with that.
i think the argument for affirmative action though is what about when the black guy makes a 90 and the white guy makes an 85, but the white guy gets the job because because he's white.

i don't really agree with affirmative action either, but i see why people do

if everyone got treated equally, we wouldn't have any problems, but they don't
 
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post Aug 31 2007, 02:22 PM
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i don't think anyone is really disagreeing with that.
i think the argument for affirmative action though is what about when the black guy makes a 90 and the white guy makes an 85, but the white guy gets the job because because he's white.

i don't really agree with affirmative action either, but i see why people do

if everyone got treated equally, we wouldn't have any problems, but they don't


yes, but forcing people to treat others with inequality will just make it worse.


The only things that will ever end racism:
- Edjucation and Time
- Genocide
 
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post Aug 31 2007, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 31 2007, 03:22 PM) *
yes, but forcing people to treat others with inequality will just make it worse.
The only things that will ever end racism:
- Edjucation and Time
- Genocide


true story there! as for the end of racism... i don't know how much time people need, but it's seems like if almost 2 centuries hasn't helped, i don't know how much one can count on that... and education clearly isn't helping that much... so... i vote genocide! it worked for hitler right? tongue.gif
 

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Steven   Affirmative Action   Jul 31 2007, 10:35 AM
BOOGERSHAHA   do you pay for your ancestors' sins? no. shoul...   Jul 31 2007, 10:37 AM
YoungKCeezy   QUOTE(BOOGERSHAHA @ Jul 31 2007, 11:37 AM...   Aug 4 2007, 11:57 AM
Sandraaa   I am completely against it. We're always talki...   Jul 31 2007, 11:17 AM
kimmytree   I'm against it. The color of someone's ski...   Jul 31 2007, 02:20 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 31 2007, 02:20 PM) ...   Jul 31 2007, 02:37 PM
Steven   ^Haha I was waiting for you to reply to this one. ...   Jul 31 2007, 02:38 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 31 2007, 02:38 PM) ^Ha...   Jul 31 2007, 02:40 PM
Sandraaa   ^ Like I said, in those days. Now, it's just g...   Jul 31 2007, 02:38 PM
xKatt   Against. All men are created equal. I think that...   Jul 31 2007, 03:29 PM
Steven   Yeah but not all were treated equal. You can tell...   Jul 31 2007, 03:32 PM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 31 2007, 12:32 PM) Yea...   Aug 7 2007, 09:49 PM
xKatt   Well, they're supposed to be. In America, we p...   Jul 31 2007, 03:40 PM
Steven   I'm not saying I agree w/ affirmative action. ...   Jul 31 2007, 03:42 PM
xKatt   Yeah. But actually ... in research, blacks have ha...   Jul 31 2007, 03:43 PM
Steven   Those research things are highly biased or inaccur...   Jul 31 2007, 03:44 PM
xKatt   sdfadfasdfasdf   Jul 31 2007, 03:48 PM
Sandraaa   Wow Katt, please don't tell me that you actual...   Jul 31 2007, 03:49 PM
xKatt   Oh whoops, I just found out that they're talki...   Jul 31 2007, 03:51 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(xKatt @ Jul 31 2007, 04:51 PM) Oh w...   Oct 2 2007, 07:55 AM
Sandraaa   Moving on. We were talking about affirmative actio...   Jul 31 2007, 03:52 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 31 2007, 03:52 PM) ...   Jul 31 2007, 04:09 PM
Joss-eh-lime   i was almost positive it was gone! well, whet...   Jul 31 2007, 04:29 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Jul 31 2007, 0...   Jul 31 2007, 04:29 PM
kimmytree   ^ Probably because she's a minority?   Jul 31 2007, 06:10 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 31 2007, 06:10 PM) ...   Jul 31 2007, 06:29 PM
kimmytree   ^ That's true, but she said that she "wan...   Jul 31 2007, 06:31 PM
Sandraaa   ^ You shouldn't assume for others whether you...   Aug 1 2007, 04:30 AM
Brilliance   Whether you want to face reality or not, many peop...   Aug 1 2007, 07:52 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Brilliance @ Aug 1 2007, 07:52 PM) ...   Aug 1 2007, 08:06 PM
Sandraaa   So a minority who's well dressed, articulates ...   Aug 2 2007, 01:29 AM
Steven   There are always the minorities that makes fools o...   Aug 2 2007, 08:39 AM
BOOGERSHAHA   hm. so what about asians? they were/are discrimina...   Aug 2 2007, 09:07 AM
Rachel   QUOTE(BOOGERSHAHA @ Aug 2 2007, 07:07 AM)...   Aug 3 2007, 01:21 AM
BOOGERSHAHA   QUOTE(Rachel @ Aug 3 2007, 02:21 AM) if y...   Aug 3 2007, 09:35 AM
Steven   QUOTE(BOOGERSHAHA @ Aug 3 2007, 09:35 AM)...   Aug 3 2007, 09:42 AM
Steven   ^Uhhh... Asians have easier times getting into col...   Aug 2 2007, 10:08 AM
brooklyneast05   ^agreed i don't think asians getting into sch...   Aug 2 2007, 10:17 AM
BOOGERSHAHA   seriously? from what i've seen, it's easie...   Aug 2 2007, 07:11 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(BOOGERSHAHA @ Aug 2 2007, 08:11 PM)...   Aug 2 2007, 09:40 PM
Sandraaa   ^ Well, the Jews are under the 'White' cat...   Aug 3 2007, 01:31 AM
Steven   QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Aug 3 2007, 01:31 AM) ^ ...   Aug 3 2007, 08:50 AM
BOOGERSHAHA   originally affirmative action was put in place to ...   Aug 3 2007, 09:45 AM
Steven   Ohhh, I see. I just say get rid of it all togethe...   Aug 3 2007, 09:55 AM
Brilliance   I say rise to the occasion so you can actually get...   Aug 3 2007, 10:25 PM
Sandraaa   I still don't get why it's still there. It...   Aug 4 2007, 03:03 AM
Steven   QUOTE(Brilliance @ Aug 3 2007, 10:25 PM) ...   Aug 4 2007, 10:44 AM
Brilliance   QUOTE(Steven @ Aug 4 2007, 10:44 AM) They...   Aug 4 2007, 11:11 AM
Steven   Which school did you go to? Also the school I wen...   Aug 4 2007, 11:16 AM
Brilliance   QUOTE(Steven @ Aug 4 2007, 11:16 AM) Whic...   Aug 4 2007, 01:24 PM
Steven   Oh don't worry about sounding elitist, I wasn...   Aug 4 2007, 01:33 PM
Spirited Away   About Asians and AA. Minda (comradered) did the ...   Aug 4 2007, 04:49 PM
kimmytree   ^ More than it is for whites?   Aug 4 2007, 08:15 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Aug 4 2007, 08:15 PM) ^...   Aug 5 2007, 09:29 PM
ersatz   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Aug 5 2007, 09:29 P...   Aug 8 2007, 10:01 AM
resplendence   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Aug 5 2007, 10:29 P...   Aug 8 2007, 01:46 PM
Brilliance   People believe that Affirmative Action isnt fair b...   Aug 5 2007, 06:12 PM
Steven   ^Provide examples please, I'm not understandin...   Aug 5 2007, 06:14 PM
OhSoDanny   I think it should stay since not everyone has the ...   Aug 5 2007, 06:14 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(OhSoDanny @ Aug 5 2007, 06:14 PM) I...   Aug 5 2007, 06:41 PM
SoEffinMajor   i'm torn on this subject simply because i didn...   Aug 7 2007, 11:28 PM
Sandraaa   QUOTEI think affirmative action should get tweaked...   Aug 9 2007, 07:10 AM
animalinside   Plus he played football very well, Harvard will ob...   Aug 9 2007, 10:26 AM
resplendence   ^I didn't say he didn't deserve it nor did...   Aug 9 2007, 05:35 PM
Sandraaa   QUOTE(resplendence @ Aug 10 2007, 12:35 A...   Aug 11 2007, 12:56 AM
animalinside   plenty of 2400's and 1st in class dont get int...   Aug 9 2007, 06:13 PM
BOOGERSHAHA   ugh i hate legacy! fin.   Aug 9 2007, 08:54 PM
resplendence   ^Because, everybody knows that even if someone has...   Aug 12 2007, 01:37 PM
innovation   QUOTEdo you pay for your ancestors' sins? no. ...   Aug 12 2007, 07:04 PM
Joss-eh-lime   I think the solution is to have something that aid...   Aug 14 2007, 11:49 PM
brooklyneast05   i agree with that more than just going by race, bu...   Aug 14 2007, 11:53 PM
Uronacid   Meh... affirmative action... it's lame, but on...   Aug 15 2007, 09:59 AM
animalinside   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 15 2007, 09:59 AM) M...   Aug 16 2007, 06:11 PM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 15 2007, 06:59 AM) M...   Aug 16 2007, 07:19 PM
innovation   ^ What a meaningless, tactless, fallacy-ridden pos...   Aug 16 2007, 04:21 PM
Insurmountable   Wasn't he joking o_O at least from the looks o...   Aug 16 2007, 09:35 PM
Uronacid   QUOTEYou make me ashamed to be white... especially...   Aug 16 2007, 09:50 PM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 16 2007, 06:50 PM) W...   Aug 17 2007, 04:51 PM
The-Abominable-CPillar   ^I disagree. I think many people who have jobs rig...   Aug 16 2007, 11:40 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Aug ...   Aug 17 2007, 08:37 AM
manybrokenhearts   Me being an asian chick I think we should keep it....   Aug 21 2007, 10:45 AM
ersatz   QUOTE(manybrokenhearts @ Aug 21 2007, 10...   Aug 24 2007, 03:14 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(ersatz @ Aug 24 2007, 04:14 PM) The...   Aug 27 2007, 09:00 AM
Steven   If colleges were even being biased about that, the...   Aug 21 2007, 10:59 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(Steven @ Aug 21 2007, 11:59 AM) If ...   Aug 21 2007, 12:27 PM
innovation   Even if he's joking, he's still implying t...   Aug 24 2007, 02:13 PM
faydedprimadonna   ok... i'm aware that my opinion is most likely...   Aug 28 2007, 08:53 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(faydedprimadonna @ Aug 28 2007, 09...   Aug 30 2007, 04:54 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(faydedprimadonna @ Aug 28 2007, 08...   Aug 30 2007, 05:11 PM
faydedprimadonna   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Aug 30 2007, 06:11...   Aug 30 2007, 07:26 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(faydedprimadonna @ Aug 30 2007, 07...   Aug 30 2007, 08:05 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Aug 30 2007, 06:11...   Aug 31 2007, 02:22 PM
faydedprimadonna   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 31 2007, 03:22 PM) y...   Aug 31 2007, 06:58 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(faydedprimadonna @ Aug 31 2007, 07...   Sep 7 2007, 09:47 AM
faydedprimadonna   i'm glad... i can't manage to be too serio...   Aug 30 2007, 09:38 PM
hotsoup   Racism and Discrimination are going to be around n...   Sep 2 2007, 01:01 PM
LoveDanceSoul   From what I know about Affirmative Action, it only...   Sep 6 2007, 04:38 PM
Steven   QUOTE(LoveDanceSoul @ Sep 6 2007, 04:38 P...   Sep 7 2007, 09:16 AM
LoveDanceSoul   QUOTE(Steven @ Sep 7 2007, 09:16 AM) You ...   Sep 7 2007, 01:16 PM
Sandraaa   GREAT DEBATE AT LAST! Just wanted to say that....   Oct 8 2007, 06:46 AM
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