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juliar
post Jun 7 2004, 12:44 PM
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Should school uniforms be a definitely in schools?
 
 
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Spirited Away
post Jun 15 2004, 07:14 PM
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[quote=TBoltzbabe,Jun 15 2004, 6:19 PM] Yeah other means that might not be as innocent as just wearing clothes.  Other means that will gain attention such as being a criminal or a slut.
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I don't see how wearing bikinis or show-y clothes would be 'innocent'. I don't suppose kids who DO wear uniforms nowdays are really ciminals or sluts outside of school.

There's a reason why most PRIVATE schools offer a better education then public schools. Their rules and regulations usually work just dandy.


[quote]why would you assume she has self esteem issues just because she likes that fashion? Not only that, but tube tops are definetly not very provacative.[/quote]
That is to prove that first impressions are important. Liking to wear revealing clothes may suggests that she needs to show off her body so people will tell her: "you're so hot"... etc.

When walk pass someone in school, I'm not going to corner them and say "hey, I really want to get to know you for who you are, and not for the person that your clothes suggest".

If someone dresses gangster like, I'm not going to stick around to "get to know them". Call me a chicken, but at least I have common sense.

[quote]No, they are trying to stand out from others, there is a difference.[/quote]
Standing out is one thing, but standing out and creating a distraction for other kids who are there to learn is another thing. Stand out at the MALL, stand out at the skating rink, stand out at the PARK. You go to school to learn, not to show your sense of style.

[quote]So if a kid decided to NOT wear their "uniform" one day, everyone else would do the same?[/quote]
Not everyone, it's the kids who are thinking "I want to 'stand out'" that will do it.

[quote]Dress is just one factor that people use to judge others.  Judging is an important part of growing up and learning to be sure of yourself.  If you weren't always judged and labeled, you would not be a strong person when the time comes that you are judged, perhaps unfairly, by other people, and by employers. [/quote]

If people are not going to judge you for what you wear, they'll judge you for other things, which will, atleast, seem less superficial. I think saying that a girl is slutty because she grabs every guy in the ass would is more justifiable than judging her because of what she wears, but kids do it anyway.

Can you imagine? A girl who can show off her body is good.. I guess, but then there are those who will be intimidated. They'll think "why can't I have a body like hers?" "Why can't I afford those expensive clothes that she wears?". This is going to distract them from what matters: getting an education.

If a girl wears short-shorts in class, do you think the boys will really pay attention to the teacher?

[quote]If you aren't judged on your clothes, you're judged on your body... If you aren't judged on your body, you're judged on your personality [/quote]
So instead of being judged on your clothes AND your body AND your personality, you'll only have to deal with two problems instead of THREE. It, at least, take away one problem for you.



[quote]Plus, even if kids DID have uniforms, the most stylish kids would be able to "wear" their clothes better, and they'd be judged based on that.[/quote]
How? You mean like shoes? And hair? The last time I checked, you can get a kempt haircut and decent shoes for cheaper than stylish clothes. If kids can't be clean with their uniforms, then it shows their character. To be judged of that is pretty fair.

[quote]You can't avoid being judged unless you want people to be completely the same.  [/quote]
No one is completely the same and, as sure as there is a tomorrow, uniforms are not going to change that. After all, uniform is nothing NEW.

[quote]Learning Institution or not, we don't live in USSR and we AREN'T the same. [/quote]

Do you suppose private schools regulations are like those of the USSR?

[quote] But instead of trying to become EQUAL with the cooler kids by trying to have uniforms, just accept who you are.[/quote]
True that clothes doesn't speak for the person, but uniforms will allow the person to speak for himself/herself. If I cannot express myself through means of clothes, I will speak out so that people will get to know me. If I wear a $100 skirt, I'm going to attract the wrong kind of friends.

[quote]I know from experience, that those in restrictive, "all the same" environments tend to do things out of school more than kids who are able to express themselves to their own pleasure during school.[/quote]
How restrictive?

I mean, I'm sure kids in private schools are not THAT bothered with uniforms, are they? _unsure.gif

[quote]I went to a private high school called Jesuit, and the girls there slept around, and the guys all drank and did drugs. [/quote]
All of the kids were like that? blink.gif Or was just a few?



EDIT:: Why does it has to be like the USSR? Most of Japan's schools require unifoms.
 

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juliar   school uniforms   Jun 7 2004, 12:44 PM
darkcoldplace   no way im made my parents put me in private school...   Jun 7 2004, 12:50 PM
DesperateXMeasures   No way man. I had to put up with uniforms this yea...   Jun 7 2004, 12:55 PM
iheartsimba   nope. there should be a slight dress code, so ther...   Jun 7 2004, 01:06 PM
Spirited Away   I remember wearing uniform when I was in elemantar...   Jun 7 2004, 01:06 PM
WildGriffin   I say, have uniforms until the start of highschool...   Jun 7 2004, 01:10 PM
JessJR1022   never had to waer uniforms...... one arguement is ...   Jun 7 2004, 01:29 PM
ComradeRed   Everyone should have to wear Ancient Roman Tunics ...   Jun 7 2004, 02:40 PM
fiji_kid   i think yea.. becoz every1 will look the same........   Jun 7 2004, 02:43 PM
Yemmerz   they should have uniforms...thats just one more th...   Jun 7 2004, 03:02 PM
ComradeRed   Post Delete   Jun 7 2004, 03:04 PM
krnxswat   QUOTE(WildGriffin @ Jun 7 2004, 2:10 PM)I say...   Jun 7 2004, 03:54 PM
xscore   yes cuz some kids cant afford to buy those expensi...   Jun 7 2004, 04:02 PM
Kathleen   I think we should have uniforms, actually. For one...   Jun 7 2004, 04:15 PM
177emories   i'd say have have uniforms until you go to uni...   Jun 7 2004, 04:24 PM
Spirited Away   To those who are saying that uniforms take away in...   Jun 7 2004, 10:11 PM
strice   i support uniforms if the skirts are short.   Jun 7 2004, 11:17 PM
TiNaBaBY074   i think school uniforms would prevent a lot of thi...   Jun 8 2004, 02:00 AM
Kathleen   QUOTEBE CREATIVE. Uniforms aren't the end of t...   Jun 8 2004, 09:59 AM
angel-roh   I GUESS IT`Z 0K... BUT WAT AB0UT WINTER TIMES?...   Jun 8 2004, 12:36 PM
NvieDi3ai3yGrL   it shouldn't be a different. some people like ...   Jun 8 2004, 01:03 PM
onenonly101   I say no. I don't see anything drastically goo...   Jun 8 2004, 04:01 PM
ComradeRed   Now if they all had to wear Red Army Uniforms, the...   Jun 8 2004, 04:13 PM
onenonly101   ^that is what you think, girls are really really c...   Jun 8 2004, 04:17 PM
ComradeRed   Notice I said hard, not impossible.   Jun 8 2004, 04:20 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEI say no. I don't see anything drasticall...   Jun 8 2004, 05:11 PM
m@dcow   i am pro uniforms... it number oen eliminates the ...   Jun 8 2004, 07:41 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 8 2004, 5:11 PM)Yeah, bu...   Jun 8 2004, 08:05 PM
Blueiyzboy   My friend wears them and she looks hot.... but the...   Jun 8 2004, 10:04 PM
LiNHy POO   NOOO WAY!!! everyone is gonna look the...   Jun 8 2004, 10:39 PM
Spirited Away   What's so boring about looking the same? You r...   Jun 8 2004, 10:42 PM
lilaznkkid   heck no!!! not for the uniforms but be...   Jun 8 2004, 10:43 PM
tkproduce   girls in uniform all the way!   Jun 9 2004, 02:41 AM
onenonly101   QUOTEWhat's so boring about looking the same? ...   Jun 9 2004, 10:14 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 9 2004, 10:14 AM)Bein...   Jun 9 2004, 10:50 AM
onenonly101   QUOTEI don't mind wearing the same as someone ...   Jun 9 2004, 11:06 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 9 2004, 11:06 AM)Oh s...   Jun 9 2004, 11:16 AM
princess2113   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 7 2004, 10:11 PM)To...   Jun 9 2004, 11:20 AM
ComradeRed   You should have to wear Roman Legionaire Helmets.   Jun 9 2004, 12:52 PM
AmesBond   I'd say, no way unless there was a lot of gang...   Jun 10 2004, 01:22 AM
juliar   I agree with uninspiredfae, trends don't reall...   Jun 10 2004, 11:46 AM
ComradeRed   What if we make everyone dress differently accordi...   Jun 10 2004, 12:00 PM
juliar   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 10 2004, 1:00 PM)What ...   Jun 10 2004, 12:01 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEWhat if we make everyone dress differently ac...   Jun 10 2004, 08:09 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Kathleen @ Jun 10 2004, 8:09 PM)Haha wh...   Jun 10 2004, 08:18 PM
onenonly101   QUOTEI agree with uninspiredfae, trends don't ...   Jun 10 2004, 08:39 PM
ComradeRed   Actually I changed my mind. It should be different...   Jun 10 2004, 08:42 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 10 2004, 8:18 PM)The b...   Jun 10 2004, 09:38 PM
ComradeRed   They get top cloths too...   Jun 11 2004, 08:57 AM
Kathleen   Haha...well, I suppose I should take my intelligen...   Jun 11 2004, 11:24 AM
ComradeRed   It's much more fun with degrading uniforms.   Jun 11 2004, 11:49 AM
Kathleen   Wow, for once, I agree with you, Minda.   Jun 11 2004, 12:01 PM
ryfitaDF   i'm good with what i wear. i don't want to...   Jun 11 2004, 03:30 PM
ComradeRed   Caesar can make you.   Jun 11 2004, 04:40 PM
ryfitaDF   no he can't. he's been dead for far too lo...   Jun 12 2004, 12:22 AM
ComradeRed   His spirit of Rome can.   Jun 12 2004, 05:38 AM
DisneyPrincessKate   I hate wearing uniforms. I have to wear a navy bl...   Jun 12 2004, 01:14 PM
LatinaLady   i say no. i think that there should be a policy as...   Jun 12 2004, 06:55 PM
lakerfever2476   Of course there shouldn't!! Man, I can...   Jun 12 2004, 07:03 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEi say no. i think that there should be a poli...   Jun 12 2004, 10:18 PM
sadolakced acid   you can... " oh... it shrank... a lot. ...   Jun 13 2004, 03:01 AM
juliar   QUOTE(lilaznkkid @ Jun 8 2004, 11:43 PM)heck ...   Jun 13 2004, 09:24 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 13 2004, 3:01 AM)...   Jun 13 2004, 10:30 AM
Kathleen   QUOTEyou can... " oh... it shrank... a lot. ...   Jun 13 2004, 07:43 PM
sadolakced acid   oh , do people love quoting. well, i guess it can...   Jun 14 2004, 12:02 AM
ryfitaDF   QUOTEif you think uniforms will get rid of clics, ...   Jun 14 2004, 12:07 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 14 2004, 12:02 AM...   Jun 14 2004, 12:09 AM
TBoltzbabe   i think there should be school uniforms, and that...   Jun 14 2004, 12:20 AM
ryfitaDF   QUOTEBut it will at least eliminate one way of cru...   Jun 14 2004, 12:24 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 14 2004, 12:24 AM)yea. t...   Jun 14 2004, 12:32 AM
ryfitaDF   ever stop to think that people will go "oh, t...   Jun 14 2004, 12:45 AM
TBoltzbabe   well either way, if there were uniforms they'd...   Jun 14 2004, 12:51 AM
ryfitaDF   QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Jun 14 2004, 12:51 AM)well...   Jun 14 2004, 12:59 AM
DisneyPrincessKate   I can deal with the issues on individuality and su...   Jun 14 2004, 10:03 AM
synkro   QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 14 2004, 10:03...   Jun 14 2004, 10:14 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 14 2004, 12:45 AM)ever s...   Jun 14 2004, 10:49 AM
XaZnX07   i think we should pick what we want to wear well a...   Jun 14 2004, 10:56 AM
ryfitaDF   QUOTEYou got me beat? Hah! Don't make me l...   Jun 14 2004, 05:01 PM
koOoaznboi_510   i dont think we should have uniforms period...   Jun 14 2004, 05:22 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 14 2004, 5:01 PM)i wanna...   Jun 14 2004, 08:15 PM
ryfitaDF   QUOTENot really, there are such things as shallow ...   Jun 14 2004, 09:02 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEWhat I really can't stand about uniforms ...   Jun 14 2004, 09:40 PM
DavidxN   at least u don't have be like "ugh what d...   Jun 14 2004, 11:44 PM
sadolakced acid   against uniforms. yea, it's getting confusi...   Jun 15 2004, 12:12 AM
DavidxN   yeh but what happens when people decide to abuse t...   Jun 15 2004, 12:13 AM
TBoltzbabe   QUOTEThere are things like: "she wears black,...   Jun 15 2004, 12:21 AM
synkro   people will judge with or without dresscodes/unifo...   Jun 15 2004, 12:58 AM
kryogenix   I THINK WE SHOULD ALL WEAR UNIFORMS. WE ARE ALL CO...   Jun 15 2004, 05:44 AM
TBoltzbabe   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 15 2004, 5:44 AM)I THIN...   Jun 15 2004, 12:28 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Jun 15 2004, 12:28 PM)no, ...   Jun 15 2004, 02:04 PM
sadolakced acid   yes, it's all the kids fault. why don't w...   Jun 15 2004, 02:16 PM
juliar   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 15 2004, 3:16 PM)...   Jun 15 2004, 03:08 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(TBoltzbabe @ Jun 15 2004, 12:21 AM)They...   Jun 15 2004, 03:37 PM
sadolakced acid   yes, i was being sarcastic. but in reality, the...   Jun 15 2004, 04:51 PM
Spirited Away   Wearing a uniform is not going to change who you a...   Jun 15 2004, 05:10 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 15 2004, 4:51 PM)...   Jun 15 2004, 05:29 PM
NicolynnCat   aw...thats crazy...i duno i like the cute sexy uni...   Jun 15 2004, 05:33 PM
CrimsonArchangel   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 7 2004, 10:11 PM)To...   Jun 15 2004, 06:10 PM
TBoltzbabe   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 7 2004, 3:37 PM)Cre...   Jun 15 2004, 06:19 PM
Spirited Away   I don't see how wearing bikinis or show-y clo...   Jun 15 2004, 07:14 PM
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