Those who would give up ESSENTIAL liberty to purchase a little TEMPORARY safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety |
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 Jul 13 2007, 04:40 PM
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 Sing to Me  Group: Member Posts: 1,825 Joined: Apr 2004 Member No: 10,808  |
The topic title is a quote that is often misquoted as Benjamin Franklin's. However, no matter who said it, let's anaylze the quote and use it for modern day purposes, just for the hell of it.
In my mind, I think suspending essential liberties just for security damages the ideals our country was built upon, the ideals that democracy were built upon. The Patriotic Act comes strongly to mind because, while it targets only a certain group of Americans, it seems that our liberties are not guaranteeed even though America and the UN say they are. Though suspending the liberties of certain people or only suspending a certain liberty (right to privacy) seem small compare to a nation's welfare, it seems that what the Bill of Rights and the Constitution dictates isn't meant to be constant. Do you think temporary security, or any security if you want, is worth the suspension of essential liberties (in my mind civil and constitutional rights = essential liberties)? |
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Jul 15 2007, 04:53 PM
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 Quand j'étais jeune... Group: Staff Alumni Posts: 6,826 Joined: Jan 2004 Member No: 1,272 |
This is a great topic. I have a question...
How do we protect freedom without providing security of it thus? |
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Aug 8 2007, 06:49 PM
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 well, if practice makes perfect then im relaxin at rehearsal Group: Member Posts: 329 Joined: May 2007 Member No: 529,475 |
QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jul 15 2007, 05:53 PM)  This is a great topic. I have a question... How do we protect freedom without providing security of it thus? that's my question...liberty and safety go hand in hand, don't they? |
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resplendence Those who would give up ESSENTIAL liberty to purchase a little TEMPORARY safety Jul 13 2007, 04:40 PM
Arjuna Capulong Freedom is for those who can handle it. Jul 13 2007, 04:54 PM JakeKKing This topic will change through out time. I saw tha... Jul 13 2007, 05:34 PM
resplendence QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jul 15 2007, 05:53 ... Aug 4 2007, 07:08 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(resplendence @ Aug 4 2007, 07:08 PM... Aug 5 2007, 09:55 PM resplendence QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Aug 5 2007, 10:55 P... Aug 8 2007, 01:54 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(resplendence @ Aug 8 2007, 12:54 PM... Nov 10 2007, 05:14 PM Spirited Away Bump... I can bump this thread right (just once)? ... Aug 4 2007, 05:03 PM Joss-eh-lime as technology advances privacy will lessen.
theref... Aug 15 2007, 12:43 AM Uronacid I don't think you realize that patriot act isn... Aug 15 2007, 09:36 AM Uronacid QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 15 2007, 09:36 AM) I... Nov 11 2007, 10:14 AM |
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