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| *Steven* |
 Jul 31 2007, 10:35 AM
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Affirmative was created way back when to help blacks get back on their feet etc etc. Now it seems a lot of races use it as a crutch, assuming that because they're a minority that they'll get preferential treatment and that if they don't then it's racism. It was supposed to have just faded away as things became more and more equal, but lo and behold, it's still here.
Anyone think it should stay? What are your reasons? |
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Aug 2 2007, 09:07 AM
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hm. so what about asians? they were/are discriminated against. japanese imprisonment camps during wwii anybody?
and affirmative action actually works against asians especially in the education system. is it just because asians are deemed "smarter" and the government thinks that they don't need any help? |
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Aug 3 2007, 01:21 AM
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QUOTE(BOOGERSHAHA @ Aug 2 2007, 07:07 AM)  hm. so what about asians? they were/are discriminated against. japanese imprisonment camps during wwii anybody? if you're bringing that up, what about us jews? |
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Aug 3 2007, 09:35 AM
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QUOTE(Rachel @ Aug 3 2007, 02:21 AM) if you're bringing that up, what about us jews? i've actually never thought of that. good point...i guess it's because the jews weren't heavily discriminated against in the united states? the US fought against the nazis so we supported the jewish. what i see is this: if a black (or hispanic) person and an asian person apply for college (only one spot left) with the same credentials - the black (or hispanic) person will get in. agree/disagree? so what do you people think about affirmative action based on ECONOMIC standards, not racial ones? i'm totally up for that idea. |
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| *Steven* |
Aug 3 2007, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(BOOGERSHAHA @ Aug 3 2007, 09:35 AM) i've actually never thought of that. good point...i guess it's because the jews weren't heavily discriminated against in the united states? the US fought against the nazis so we supported the jewish. what i see is this: if a black (or hispanic) person and an asian person apply for college (only one spot left) with the same credentials - the black (or hispanic) person will get in. agree/disagree? so what do you people think about affirmative action based on ECONOMIC standards, not racial ones? i'm totally up for that idea. Jews are considered their own race on a lot of the applications I've seen. That's a good point. Affirmative action favors different races more or less, I guess. What do you mean by economic standards? |
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Steven Affirmative Action Jul 31 2007, 10:35 AM
BOOGERSHAHA do you pay for your ancestors' sins? no.
shoul... Jul 31 2007, 10:37 AM
YoungKCeezy QUOTE(BOOGERSHAHA @ Jul 31 2007, 11:37 AM... Aug 4 2007, 11:57 AM Sandraaa I am completely against it. We're always talki... Jul 31 2007, 11:17 AM kimmytree I'm against it. The color of someone's ski... Jul 31 2007, 02:20 PM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 31 2007, 02:20 PM) ... Jul 31 2007, 02:37 PM Steven ^Haha I was waiting for you to reply to this one.
... Jul 31 2007, 02:38 PM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 31 2007, 02:38 PM) ^Ha... Jul 31 2007, 02:40 PM Sandraaa ^ Like I said, in those days. Now, it's just g... Jul 31 2007, 02:38 PM xKatt Against. All men are created equal. I think that... Jul 31 2007, 03:29 PM Steven Yeah but not all were treated equal. You can tell... Jul 31 2007, 03:32 PM Joss-eh-lime QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 31 2007, 12:32 PM) Yea... Aug 7 2007, 09:49 PM xKatt Well, they're supposed to be. In America, we p... Jul 31 2007, 03:40 PM Steven I'm not saying I agree w/ affirmative action. ... Jul 31 2007, 03:42 PM xKatt Yeah. But actually ... in research, blacks have ha... Jul 31 2007, 03:43 PM Steven Those research things are highly biased or inaccur... Jul 31 2007, 03:44 PM xKatt sdfadfasdfasdf Jul 31 2007, 03:48 PM Sandraaa Wow Katt, please don't tell me that you actual... Jul 31 2007, 03:49 PM xKatt Oh whoops, I just found out that they're talki... Jul 31 2007, 03:51 PM Uronacid QUOTE(xKatt @ Jul 31 2007, 04:51 PM) Oh w... Oct 2 2007, 07:55 AM Sandraaa Moving on. We were talking about affirmative actio... Jul 31 2007, 03:52 PM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 31 2007, 03:52 PM)
... Jul 31 2007, 04:09 PM Joss-eh-lime i was almost positive it was gone!
well, whet... Jul 31 2007, 04:29 PM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Jul 31 2007, 0... Jul 31 2007, 04:29 PM kimmytree ^ Probably because she's a minority? Jul 31 2007, 06:10 PM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 31 2007, 06:10 PM) ... Jul 31 2007, 06:29 PM kimmytree ^ That's true, but she said that she "wan... Jul 31 2007, 06:31 PM Sandraaa ^ You shouldn't assume for others whether you... Aug 1 2007, 04:30 AM Brilliance Whether you want to face reality or not, many peop... Aug 1 2007, 07:52 PM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(Brilliance @ Aug 1 2007, 07:52 PM) ... Aug 1 2007, 08:06 PM Sandraaa So a minority who's well dressed, articulates ... Aug 2 2007, 01:29 AM Steven There are always the minorities that makes fools o... Aug 2 2007, 08:39 AM Steven ^Uhhh... Asians have easier times getting into col... Aug 2 2007, 10:08 AM brooklyneast05 ^agreed
i don't think asians getting into sch... Aug 2 2007, 10:17 AM BOOGERSHAHA seriously? from what i've seen, it's easie... Aug 2 2007, 07:11 PM kimmytree QUOTE(BOOGERSHAHA @ Aug 2 2007, 08:11 PM)... Aug 2 2007, 09:40 PM Sandraaa ^ Well, the Jews are under the 'White' cat... Aug 3 2007, 01:31 AM Steven QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Aug 3 2007, 01:31 AM) ^ ... Aug 3 2007, 08:50 AM BOOGERSHAHA originally affirmative action was put in place to ... Aug 3 2007, 09:45 AM Steven Ohhh, I see. I just say get rid of it all togethe... Aug 3 2007, 09:55 AM Brilliance I say rise to the occasion so you can actually get... Aug 3 2007, 10:25 PM Sandraaa I still don't get why it's still there. It... Aug 4 2007, 03:03 AM Steven QUOTE(Brilliance @ Aug 3 2007, 10:25 PM) ... Aug 4 2007, 10:44 AM Brilliance QUOTE(Steven @ Aug 4 2007, 10:44 AM) They... Aug 4 2007, 11:11 AM Steven Which school did you go to? Also the school I wen... Aug 4 2007, 11:16 AM Brilliance QUOTE(Steven @ Aug 4 2007, 11:16 AM) Whic... Aug 4 2007, 01:24 PM Steven Oh don't worry about sounding elitist, I wasn... Aug 4 2007, 01:33 PM Spirited Away About Asians and AA.
Minda (comradered) did the ... Aug 4 2007, 04:49 PM kimmytree ^ More than it is for whites? Aug 4 2007, 08:15 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(kimmytree @ Aug 4 2007, 08:15 PM) ^... Aug 5 2007, 09:29 PM ersatz QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Aug 5 2007, 09:29 P... Aug 8 2007, 10:01 AM resplendence QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Aug 5 2007, 10:29 P... Aug 8 2007, 01:46 PM Brilliance People believe that Affirmative Action isnt fair b... Aug 5 2007, 06:12 PM Steven ^Provide examples please, I'm not understandin... Aug 5 2007, 06:14 PM OhSoDanny I think it should stay
since not everyone has the ... Aug 5 2007, 06:14 PM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(OhSoDanny @ Aug 5 2007, 06:14 PM) I... Aug 5 2007, 06:41 PM SoEffinMajor i'm torn on this subject simply because i didn... Aug 7 2007, 11:28 PM Sandraaa QUOTEI think affirmative action should get tweaked... Aug 9 2007, 07:10 AM animalinside Plus he played football very well, Harvard will ob... Aug 9 2007, 10:26 AM resplendence ^I didn't say he didn't deserve it nor did... Aug 9 2007, 05:35 PM Sandraaa QUOTE(resplendence @ Aug 10 2007, 12:35 A... Aug 11 2007, 12:56 AM animalinside plenty of 2400's and 1st in class dont get int... Aug 9 2007, 06:13 PM BOOGERSHAHA ugh i hate legacy! fin. Aug 9 2007, 08:54 PM resplendence ^Because, everybody knows that even if someone has... Aug 12 2007, 01:37 PM innovation QUOTEdo you pay for your ancestors' sins? no.
... Aug 12 2007, 07:04 PM Joss-eh-lime I think the solution is to have something that aid... Aug 14 2007, 11:49 PM brooklyneast05 i agree with that more than just going by race,
bu... Aug 14 2007, 11:53 PM Uronacid Meh... affirmative action... it's lame, but on... Aug 15 2007, 09:59 AM animalinside QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 15 2007, 09:59 AM) M... Aug 16 2007, 06:11 PM Joss-eh-lime QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 15 2007, 06:59 AM) M... Aug 16 2007, 07:19 PM innovation ^ What a meaningless, tactless, fallacy-ridden pos... Aug 16 2007, 04:21 PM Insurmountable Wasn't he joking o_O at least from the looks o... Aug 16 2007, 09:35 PM Uronacid QUOTEYou make me ashamed to be white... especially... Aug 16 2007, 09:50 PM Joss-eh-lime QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 16 2007, 06:50 PM) W... Aug 17 2007, 04:51 PM The-Abominable-CPillar ^I disagree. I think many people who have jobs rig... Aug 16 2007, 11:40 PM Uronacid QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Aug ... Aug 17 2007, 08:37 AM manybrokenhearts Me being an asian chick I think we should keep it.... Aug 21 2007, 10:45 AM ersatz QUOTE(manybrokenhearts @ Aug 21 2007, 10... Aug 24 2007, 03:14 PM Uronacid QUOTE(ersatz @ Aug 24 2007, 04:14 PM) The... Aug 27 2007, 09:00 AM Steven If colleges were even being biased about that, the... Aug 21 2007, 10:59 AM Uronacid QUOTE(Steven @ Aug 21 2007, 11:59 AM) If ... Aug 21 2007, 12:27 PM innovation Even if he's joking, he's still implying t... Aug 24 2007, 02:13 PM faydedprimadonna ok... i'm aware that my opinion is most likely... Aug 28 2007, 08:53 PM Uronacid QUOTE(faydedprimadonna @ Aug 28 2007, 09... Aug 30 2007, 04:54 PM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(faydedprimadonna @ Aug 28 2007, 08... Aug 30 2007, 05:11 PM faydedprimadonna QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Aug 30 2007, 06:11... Aug 30 2007, 07:26 PM brooklyneast05 QUOTE(faydedprimadonna @ Aug 30 2007, 07... Aug 30 2007, 08:05 PM Uronacid QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Aug 30 2007, 06:11... Aug 31 2007, 02:22 PM faydedprimadonna QUOTE(Uronacid @ Aug 31 2007, 03:22 PM) y... Aug 31 2007, 06:58 PM Uronacid QUOTE(faydedprimadonna @ Aug 31 2007, 07... Sep 7 2007, 09:47 AM faydedprimadonna i'm glad... i can't manage to be too serio... Aug 30 2007, 09:38 PM hotsoup Racism and Discrimination are going to be around n... Sep 2 2007, 01:01 PM LoveDanceSoul From what I know about Affirmative Action, it only... Sep 6 2007, 04:38 PM Steven QUOTE(LoveDanceSoul @ Sep 6 2007, 04:38 P... Sep 7 2007, 09:16 AM LoveDanceSoul QUOTE(Steven @ Sep 7 2007, 09:16 AM) You ... Sep 7 2007, 01:16 PM Sandraaa GREAT DEBATE AT LAST! Just wanted to say that.... Oct 8 2007, 06:46 AM |
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