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post Jul 18 2007, 11:09 PM
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THIS IS A CREATEBLOG PUBLIC SERVICE SPEECH. I REPEAT, THIS IS A CREATEBLOG PUBLIC SERVICE SPEECH. NON HIP HOP FANS FEEL FREE TO COMPLAIN AND POST BS THAT AREN'T EVEN TRUE!!

as you can see, hip hop didn't start out with "laffy taffy" and "snapping your fingers, doing your 2-step" ... Hip Hop isn't just hoes, money and drugs.... it's political, real, violent, hardcore, full of truth and the soundtrack to so many ppl's lives...Rappers shouldn't be disrespected, they should be look upon to. To understand how they struggled back in the day, understand what they fought through, understand their pain, understand the meaning in the lyrics with all your heart, and understand what they do and how they live. it's like experiencing new things through lyrics like if you went out and discovered some new interesting shit. if you don't understand it or can't relate to it, fine, but don't disrespect that art form... I dont understand Country music at all but believe me, I dont disrespect it in any way shape or form... I dont mind Carrie Underwood, Garth Brooks, Tim Mcgraw or Brooks and Dunn.. but I never listen to Country music on my own.... but I don't hate on Country ever...but I'd rather turn down country and choose hip hop music cuz the music is stronger. you guys feel me? the truth is, everybody talks about violence in Hip Hop, the government calls out Hip Hop for violence and degrading women, but are the same losers trying to fight a war over NOTHING!!! and they say nothing about the things that kids can see in a movie or on TV, they single out and blame Hip Hop for violence, but I have seen Horror Movies with more blood and actual violence than any rap song can describe... get the fuk outta here with that Hip Hop is bad crap... Hip Hop is an art form!!!! i'm an asian that supports hip hop to the fullest!!!! got complaints??? post 'em here or support it with me!!!
 
 
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jackie13xo
post Jul 28 2007, 03:05 PM
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hip hop is dead
 
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QUOTE(jackie13xo @ Jul 28 2007, 04:05 PM) *
hip hop is dead

Excuse me, was you saying something? Ha ha ,you can't tell me nothing.
Billboards disagrees with you.

2 Fergie - Big Girls Don't Cry ( and she does hip hop sometimes.)
3 Rihanna and Jay-Z -Umbrella
4 Timbaland and Keri Hilson - The Way I Are
5 Shop Boyz - Party Like A Rockstar
7 Akon - Sorry, Blame It On Me
8 Hurricane Chris - A Bay Bay
9 T-Pain and Yung Joc - Buy U A Drank
10 T-Pain and Akon - Bartender
11 Fabolous and Ne-Yo - Make Me Better
12 Plies and T-Pain - Shawty
13 T.I. - Big Things Poppin' (do It)


Akon is like the modern day Nate Dogg. Dang where is Kanye though? HE had two good singles, both slept on.
 
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post Jul 30 2007, 04:18 PM
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QUOTE(YoungKCeezy @ Jul 28 2007, 04:17 PM) *
Excuse me, was you saying something? Ha ha ,you can't tell me nothing.
Billboards disagrees with you.

2 Fergie - Big Girls Don't Cry ( and she does hip hop sometimes.)
3 Rihanna and Jay-Z -Umbrella
4 Timbaland and Keri Hilson - The Way I Are
5 Shop Boyz - Party Like A Rockstar
7 Akon - Sorry, Blame It On Me
8 Hurricane Chris - A Bay Bay
9 T-Pain and Yung Joc - Buy U A Drank
10 T-Pain and Akon - Bartender
11 Fabolous and Ne-Yo - Make Me Better
12 Plies and T-Pain - Shawty
13 T.I. - Big Things Poppin' (do It)
Akon is like the modern day Nate Dogg. Dang where is Kanye though? HE had two good singles, both slept on.


are you kidding me? you really think party like a rockstar is hiphop? i dont think any of those song's can be called hiphop. AT ALL. simply because its all hip-pop. feel? it's all that mainstream ish that you can play in the clubs. but its garbage.
idk what else to say to defend myself, im kinda out of it. but mainstream, isnt hiphop. not one bit. the closest person on there, i would say, would be timbaland.
sorry if you disagree.

QUOTE(Hiphop d[-_-]b @ Jul 29 2007, 12:53 AM) *

HIPHOP AIN'T DEAD, IT'S UNDERGROUND.
f**k the mainstream bullshit !


much agreed.

gawd, what has come to this world, where people are getting there music twisted.
and that show on mtv the TOP MC?! wtf. common was number 9 or something? WOW. 50 cent beat him?! no, its not about how many albums you sell and how you dress and your swagger. that's all they looked upon which was foolish.
 
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QUOTE(KIDSISTER @ Jul 30 2007, 05:18 PM) *
are you kidding me? you really think party like a rockstar is hiphop? i dont think any of those song's can be called hiphop. AT ALL. simply because its all hip-pop. feel? it's all that mainstream ish that you can play in the clubs. but its garbage.
idk what else to say to defend myself, im kinda out of it. but mainstream, isnt hiphop. not one bit. the closest person on there, i would say, would be timbaland.
sorry if you disagree.
much agreed.

gawd, what has come to this world, where people are getting there music twisted.
and that show on mtv the TOP MC?! wtf. common was number 9 or something? WOW. 50 cent beat him?! no, its not about how many albums you sell and how you dress and your swagger. that's all they looked upon which was foolish.

Haha Paulina are you trying to style on me? sad.gif

I'm not going to sit here and lie. I like a bunch of those songs aforementioned honestly. And while songs like these are not true to their hip hop roots, its still qualifies as hip hop. Hip Hop is the one form of music where you can truly speak your mind without any limitations. Whether it be about sex, drugs , money, alcohol, life , conscience, etc. Hip hop is the reason why artists from other genres are able to speak their mind with no limitations. I bump mainstream to underground, doesn't matter to me.

Many people consider BIG, Eminem, and Pac hip hop, but yet they rap about all the same things the so called rappers killing hip hop rap about. Pac and Biggie used bitches and hos in their songs and represented the thug life, so why are they considered real hip hop artist? Is it because they have songs besides ass shaking that tells a story that others can relate to. Because if so, I can give you songs where TI and Ludacris have given us songs that were inspirational.
TI ft. Jamie Foxx - Live in The SKy
Ludacris ft. Mary J Blidge - Runaway love
And thats not all. I've even heard Kanye talk about hos in his song, but yet he is highly respected.
Not saying these artist aren't dope, I like every artist I mentioned.
And for the record , 50 cent was a much better artist when he was on the mixtape scene before he got the deal.

Furthermore you have Fabulous on the countdown, who drops multis that will more than likely tear apart most underground rappers you listen to. Don't underestimate this dude , he drops dope lines.

QUOTE( Fabolous)
I play them diamonds well when I got dat jewelery on,
They should call the Parrykeater, or canary bonds,

Very dope line when you think about it.

I respect your opinion , but I disagree with it to an extent. The reason why I've always been fascinated with hip hop is because you can pretty much go in any direction with it. Hip Hop is more than just the music itself. From the fashion , breakdancing , graffiti, music, on further down. This is why I never really try to determine what real hip hop is, because in Hip Hop you have freedom.
 
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post Jul 30 2007, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(YoungKCeezy @ Jul 30 2007, 08:33 PM) *
Haha Paulina are you trying to style on me? sad.gif

I'm not going to sit here and lie. I like a bunch of those songs aforementioned honestly. And while songs like these are not true to their hip hop roots, its still qualifies as hip hop. Hip Hop is the one form of music where you can truly speak your mind without any limitations. Whether it be about sex, drugs , money, alcohol, life , conscience, etc. Hip hop is the reason why artists from other genres are able to speak their mind with no limitations. I bump mainstream to underground, doesn't matter to me.

Many people consider BIG, Eminem, and Pac hip hop, but yet they rap about all the same things the so called rappers killing hip hop rap about. Pac and Biggie used bitches and hos in their songs and represented the thug life, so why are they considered real hip hop artist? Is it because they have songs besides ass shaking that tells a story that others can relate to. Because if so, I can give you songs where TI and Ludacris have given us songs that were inspirational.
TI ft. Jamie Foxx - Live in The SKy
Ludacris ft. Mary J Blidge - Runaway love
And thats not all. I've even heard Kanye talk about hos in his song, but yet he is highly respected.
Not saying these artist aren't dope, I like every artist I mentioned.
And for the record , 50 cent was a much better artist when he was on the mixtape scene before he got the deal.

Furthermore you have Fabulous on the countdown, who drops multis that will more than likely tear apart most underground rappers you listen to. Don't underestimate this dude , he drops dope lines.
Very dope line when you think about it.

I respect your opinion , but I disagree with it to an extent. The reason why I've always been fascinated with hip hop is because you can pretty much go in any direction with it. Hip Hop is more than just the music itself. From the fashion , breakdancing , graffiti, music, on further down. This is why I never really try to determine what real hip hop is, because in Hip Hop you have freedom.


Haha, no way. But i really agree with what you said. It is fascinating because of how much you can get from it. They're are hella aspects, and that makes the culture so real & cool.

& Yeah Lil' Wayne #1, oh no. Why is it that his mixtapes are better than his actual albums? you know something is wrong when you get a mistake that big.
 
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post Jul 30 2007, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(KIDSISTER @ Jul 30 2007, 09:53 PM) *
Haha, no way. But i really agree with what you said. It is fascinating because of how much you can get from it. They're are hella aspects, and that makes the culture so real & cool.

& Yeah Lil' Wayne #1, oh no. Why is it that his mixtapes are better than his actual albums? you know something is wrong when you get a mistake that big.

LMAO I can't belive they put that dude at number one. And I agree his mixtapes are better than his actual albums. And LOL at him being number 1. I swear he can say just about anything and people will be amazed by it. He is like on my rappers that make me laugh list , which include


5. Jim Jones
4. Juelz Santana
3. Young Jeezy (Ayeeeeee)
2. Cam'ron
1. Lil Wayne

But he still cool though.
 

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krnprydeee   understand non hip hop fans .. please understand!!   Jul 18 2007, 11:09 PM
MaAssIsWOW   Lol how is any music bad though?   Jul 18 2007, 11:10 PM
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TRIBAL   QUOTE(krnprydeee @ Jul 18 2007, 09:12 PM)...   Jul 18 2007, 11:17 PM
krnprydeee   QUOTE(TRIBAL @ Jul 19 2007, 12:17 AM) lol...   Jul 18 2007, 11:20 PM
Mercy   Sugar,I think some of us knew this already.   Jul 18 2007, 11:13 PM
Frankie   ...Entertainment.   Jul 18 2007, 11:13 PM
TRIBAL   If you don't understand country music how can ...   Jul 18 2007, 11:13 PM
krnprydeee   QUOTE(TRIBAL @ Jul 19 2007, 12:13 AM) If ...   Jul 18 2007, 11:16 PM
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MaAssIsWOW   QUOTE(krnprydeee @ Jul 18 2007, 09:16 PM)...   Jul 18 2007, 11:22 PM
ersatz   Uuuuuuhhhhh pretty sure every genre has the same a...   Jul 18 2007, 11:19 PM
Harry-Potter   QUOTE(krnprydeee @ Jul 19 2007, 12:12 AM)...   Jul 18 2007, 11:25 PM
xKatt   QUOTE(Harry-Potter @ Jul 18 2007, 11...   Jul 18 2007, 11:33 PM
krnprydeee   shit all of y'all don't know the problems ...   Jul 18 2007, 11:27 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(krnprydeee @ Jul 18 2007, 11:27 PM)...   Jul 18 2007, 11:31 PM
tininja   Um, no? Yeah, we get the point that they have suff...   Jul 18 2007, 11:38 PM
krnprydeee   QUOTE(tininja @ Jul 19 2007, 12:38 AM) Um...   Jul 18 2007, 11:47 PM
omgomgKATHY   QUOTE(krnprydeee @ Jul 19 2007, 12:47 AM)...   Jul 19 2007, 07:49 PM
Hiphop d[-_-]b   We all know that I love hiphop. Hiphop is my life....   Jul 18 2007, 11:33 PM
krnprydeee   QUOTE(Hiphop d[-_-]b @ Jul ...   Jul 18 2007, 11:37 PM
TRIBAL   QUOTE(Hiphop d[-_-]b @ Jul ...   Jul 18 2007, 11:43 PM
Hiphop d[-_-]b   ^ I knooow. My friends and I have been trying for ...   Jul 18 2007, 11:44 PM
xKatt   QUOTEhip hop is not life for everyone cuz people m...   Jul 18 2007, 11:49 PM
krnprydeee   QUOTE(xKatt @ Jul 19 2007, 12:49 AM) Hip ...   Jul 18 2007, 11:59 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(krnprydeee @ Jul 18 2007, 11:59 PM)...   Jul 19 2007, 12:02 AM
EtherxWhisper   QUOTE(krnprydeee @ Jul 19 2007, 12:59 AM)...   Jul 19 2007, 12:23 AM
krnprydeee   QUOTE(EtherxWhisper @ Jul 19 2007, 01:23 ...   Jul 19 2007, 02:35 PM
deFUNKtion   QUOTE(krnprydeee @ Jul 19 2007, 03:35 PM)...   Jul 19 2007, 07:18 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(deFUNKtion @ Jul 19 2007, 08:18 PM)...   Jul 19 2007, 07:33 PM
Mercy   QUOTEHIP HOP IS NOT LIFE FOR EVERYONE, KAY? KAY Ex...   Jul 19 2007, 12:02 AM
Tamacracker   Hip-hop is mother earth and in my infancy she hold...   Jul 19 2007, 12:42 AM
1angel3   I love the art of hip hop. Yes some rap songs degr...   Jul 19 2007, 05:43 PM
Sandraaa   Maaaaaaaaaan, I've been LOLing through out thi...   Jul 19 2007, 05:44 PM
Harry-Potter   I can't Bboy to nothing but that hardcore gang...   Jul 19 2007, 07:55 PM
karmakiller   Every genre of music can touch different areas. Ev...   Jul 19 2007, 07:58 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(karmakiller @ Jul 19 2007, 08:58 PM...   Jul 19 2007, 08:32 PM
XxSugarKisses-TeddyHugsxX   I still dont like hiphop/rap.   Jul 19 2007, 10:50 PM
MaAssIsWOW   QUOTE(XxSugarKisses-TeddyHugsxX @ Jul 19...   Jul 27 2007, 01:13 PM
Sandraaa   QUOTE(XxSugarKisses-TeddyHugsxX @ Jul 20...   Jul 28 2007, 03:47 AM
tripvertigo   hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahhahahahahahah...   Jul 27 2007, 08:39 PM
1angel3   QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Jul 27 2007, 05:39 PM...   Jul 27 2007, 08:58 PM
krnprydeee   QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Jul 27 2007, 09:39 PM...   Jul 27 2007, 11:21 PM
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tripvertigo   No... rap is a denomination under hip hop.   Jul 28 2007, 12:09 AM
tripvertigo   i honestly wish people would stop f**king swearing...   Jul 28 2007, 11:49 AM
Sandraaa   QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Jul 28 2007, 06:49 PM...   Jul 29 2007, 01:54 PM
ersatz   ^ But she does speak the language on a daily basis...   Jul 28 2007, 03:05 PM
tripvertigo   QUOTE(ersatz @ Jul 28 2007, 01:05 PM) ^ B...   Jul 28 2007, 03:34 PM
jackie13xo   hip hop is dead   Jul 28 2007, 03:05 PM
YoungKCeezy   QUOTE(jackie13xo @ Jul 28 2007, 04:05 PM)...   Jul 28 2007, 04:17 PM
KIDSISTER   QUOTE(YoungKCeezy @ Jul 28 2007, 04:17 PM...   Jul 30 2007, 04:18 PM
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1angel3   QUOTE(KIDSISTER @ Jul 30 2007, 01:18 PM) ...   Jul 30 2007, 05:09 PM
TRIBAL   QUOTE(KIDSISTER @ Jul 30 2007, 02:18 PM) ...   Jul 30 2007, 07:47 PM
YoungKCeezy   QUOTE(KIDSISTER @ Jul 30 2007, 05:18 PM) ...   Jul 30 2007, 08:33 PM
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YoungKCeezy   QUOTE(KIDSISTER @ Jul 30 2007, 09:53 PM) ...   Jul 30 2007, 08:59 PM
TRIBAL   QUOTE(jackie13xo @ Jul 28 2007, 01:05 PM)...   Jul 28 2007, 09:55 PM
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tripvertigo   big girls dont cry by fergie is not a hip hop song...   Jul 28 2007, 06:37 PM
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1angel3   ^ Amen but there is some truth to that.   Jul 28 2007, 09:03 PM
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