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Do people who commit suicide go to heaven?, For the Catholics and stuff, I guess. |
| *The Markster* |
Jun 25 2007, 11:54 PM
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Forgive me if this is a pretty stupid question, but do people who commit suicide go to heaven? I see how it can be wrong to kill your own self, a creation of God, but doesn't God want us all to be happy? I think .. I wanna know what you guys think.
(Btw, how do I make this into a poll ..) |
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| *Sandraaa* |
Jul 30 2007, 04:35 PM
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^ That is what I find so contracdicting about this God issue. Why are there priviledged people and born-to-live and die-poor people? Why did God choose? Isn't that a form of discrimination?
What of those poor babies who are born with physical disorders? Why would He do that to innocent kids? Finally, he doesn't love everyone as much as Christians think He does. |
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Jul 30 2007, 06:13 PM
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^ That is what I find so contracdicting about this God issue. Why are there priviledged people and born-to-live and die-poor people? Why did God choose? Isn't that a form of discrimination? What of those poor babies who are born with physical disorders? Why would He do that to innocent kids? Finally, he doesn't love everyone as much as Christians think He does. I don't understand how you came to your last statement, well here you go: (I think the second applies most below) I dont think its contradicting, I mean everyone is different and does different things, and will suffer the consequences for it. I don't think I should be punished the same for everyone else's sins, but only my own, which of course we all have really broken all the rules that God has laid out (i'll explain if you want me to). Ultimately, the Lord has a purpose for all the things He has created, no matter how large or insignificant. "First, we know there are some good purposes for evil. God often makes us aware of greater evils, that could arise by using lesser evils as warning signs. For example, the pain of a toothache warns us of a cavity. If not taken care of, it oculd require a root canal or other dental surgery (ouch!). Pain is often necessary to keep us from destroying ourselves. The first time we were burnt with a hot kitchen pan or an automobile engine was not fun, but it made us aware of the need to avoid hot materials. If we didn't learn, there could be even more severe consequences that could result in the form of losing life or limb. Second, we may not know the purpose God has for evil, but that doesn't mean there is none. It is unreasonable to assume that God has no good reason for evil just because we are unaware of it... Third, God allows evil in order to ultimately defeat evil. Jesus' death on the cross is a good example...... God permitted an evil injustice (Christ's death) to occur to one person (Jesus) in order to accomplish mercy for many *humankind). God has good purpose for the evil that we may encounter even though we don't understand it." -TruthQuest Living Loud Defending Your Faith Personally, I have a mentally disabled cousin. He is such a blessing and God can use them in many ways that we (me and you) may not understand. He can place thoughts in that persons mind to speak aloud even though the person speaking does it know what they are saying or not understand fully like we do, they can minister to other people's hearts. Deaths in families can often bring a close family member to realization. There are so many other examples if you want more. QUOTE I agree. But wouldnt you think that anyone who would go to the point of killing themselves is mentally unstable, or at least in a altered state of mind? Alot of people who kill themselves wouldnt normally go to that extreme. They just become so depressed and overwhelmed. "Why didnt God save them since he has extraordinary powers?" That's what I'm wondering. But what about the millions of people dying in Africa from aids, or children dying of cancer? Or babies being aborted? It doesnt seem like God's taking care of any of that either. I think the first and third above ^ apply. |
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The Markster Do people who commit suicide go to heaven? Jun 25 2007, 11:54 PM
xKatt Well, according to Christians, God gave you life a... Jun 26 2007, 12:03 AM
murderwaltz QUOTE(xKatt @ Jun 26 2007, 12:03 AM) Well... Jun 26 2007, 10:27 PM
kayali ^ agree with all 100%.
also, isnt suicide a bit se... Jun 26 2007, 12:43 AM
alovesopure QUOTE(kayali @ Jun 26 2007, 01:43 AM) als... Jun 26 2007, 12:53 AM
kryogenix No one knows. Jun 26 2007, 10:09 PM
MyMichelle People have told me both. shrugs*
If you really w... Jun 26 2007, 10:12 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(ThomasC @ Jun 26 2007, 12:46 AM) I ... Jun 26 2007, 10:14 PM
steve330 Define heaven Jun 26 2007, 11:19 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(steve330 @ Jun 27 2007, 12:19 AM) D... Jun 27 2007, 12:38 AM
Moderator It all depends on what your beliefs are. I say, it... Jun 27 2007, 12:53 AM
x_curse_of_the_curves_x what is mental instability anyways? Like depressio... Jun 27 2007, 12:54 AM
1angel3 I believe the people that go to hell don't sta... Jun 27 2007, 08:08 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jun 27 2007, 08:08 PM) I ... Jun 28 2007, 01:51 PM
1angel3 QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 28 2007, 10:5... Jun 28 2007, 09:36 PM
xl0stxThoughtx "You shall not kill." And by committing... Jun 28 2007, 09:31 AM
Aerjae According to my faith, They don't go heaven. M... Jun 28 2007, 09:34 AM
steve330 This is why I like Deism, you don't have to wo... Jun 28 2007, 03:05 PM
hazardous the only unforgivable(sp?) sin is blasphemy.
and ... Jun 28 2007, 06:31 PM
Tamacracker Hopefully... for being cowards. Jun 28 2007, 06:32 PM
Arjuna Capulong It's because the "Christian" "H... Jun 28 2007, 11:41 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Jun 29 2007, 12:4... Jun 29 2007, 02:39 PM
steve330 QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Jun 28 2007, 11:4... Jun 30 2007, 10:44 AM
1angel3 ^^ well, you have people that don't believe in... Jun 29 2007, 10:52 AM
Flair For those who are sure about the answer to this qu... Jun 29 2007, 02:43 PM
1angel3 ^^ We don't know really Jun 29 2007, 02:50 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(The Markster @ Jun 26 2007, 12:54 A... Jun 30 2007, 10:42 AM
JakeKKing QUOTE(xKatt @ Jun 26 2007, 01:03 AM) Well... Jun 30 2007, 10:48 AM
Arjuna Capulong Ok, I'm calling all of you out now; I think we... Jun 30 2007, 12:47 PM
JakeKKing I apologize for the double post. I was hoping it w... Jul 1 2007, 12:40 PM
xburnoutx00 QUOTE(The Markster @ Jun 25 2007, 11:54 P... Jul 21 2007, 06:15 PM
xKatt QUOTE(xburnoutx00 @ Jul 21 2007, 06:15 PM... Jul 22 2007, 11:27 PM
laxumaster8 it really depends on your religion Jul 21 2007, 06:23 PM
Elba There is no heaven. Jul 21 2007, 06:23 PM
JakeKKing Haha. Why do people post topics that can never tru... Jul 21 2007, 06:40 PM
xburnoutx00 The point of the thread is to post your opinion ab... Jul 21 2007, 07:10 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(xburnoutx00 @ Jul 21 2007, 08:10 PM... Jul 22 2007, 09:21 AM
steve330 QUOTE(xburnoutx00 @ Jul 21 2007, 07:10 PM... Jul 22 2007, 10:11 AM
kimmytree I dont believe in a Heaven or a Hell... I dont thi... Jul 21 2007, 08:29 PM
LovelyObsession I think they go to hell.
It is spitting in the fac... Jul 21 2007, 08:53 PM
Fist ... but killing yourself is happiness, isnt?
You... Jul 21 2007, 09:11 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(Fist @ Jul 21 2007, 10:11 PM) ... b... Jul 22 2007, 09:23 AM
mysticalazxn No one can decide. Only god.
But if I was to thin... Jul 24 2007, 02:41 AM
Peanups First off, I am not Catholic, I am a Christian so ... Jul 24 2007, 12:46 PM
Sandraaa It's been bla bla all along. How can you know ... Jul 24 2007, 02:19 PM
xKatt Here's the answer to your question. It's f... Jul 24 2007, 03:09 PM
Sandraaa Speculations. Did God actually tell them so? Jul 24 2007, 03:21 PM
Michelle *laughs and points at all the Christians who fight... Jul 24 2007, 03:28 PM
N3RDYY Well they either get cremated or burried 6 feet un... Jul 24 2007, 03:33 PM
xKatt @ Sandra: Nope.
My interpretation is:
It's ... Jul 24 2007, 03:33 PM
Sandraaa I think it's fun when people think for God. Wh... Jul 24 2007, 03:41 PM
xKatt ^ Hence the Theist vs. Atheist debate.
You can... Jul 24 2007, 04:03 PM
Sandraaa How can you interprete something you can't fee... Jul 24 2007, 04:12 PM
xKatt Reading the Bible. Jul 24 2007, 04:17 PM
Sandraaa Oh, the book that bored people wrote years years a... Jul 24 2007, 04:20 PM
xKatt Yeah.
This one. Jul 24 2007, 04:26 PM
Sandraaa I actually feel like reading the Bible.
I'm ... Jul 24 2007, 04:43 PM
Michelle QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 24 2007, 04:43 PM) I... Jul 30 2007, 04:49 PM
xKatt ^ In revised editions of the Bible, it's been ... Jul 27 2007, 05:58 PM
Peanups QUOTE(xKatt @ Jul 27 2007, 05:58 PM) ^ In... Jul 27 2007, 07:10 PM
DarkImpressions No.
I wouldnt think so. Jul 27 2007, 06:22 PM
RogueVanity "Define heaven" .. well good point.
IMO... Jul 28 2007, 06:58 AM
Sandraaa Assumptions, really. What of those metally disable... Jul 30 2007, 08:11 AM
Peanups QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 30 2007, 08:11 AM) A... Jul 30 2007, 01:20 PM
kimmytree QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 30 2007, 09:11 AM) A... Jul 30 2007, 01:26 PM
kimmytree ^ Wow.
QUOTE^ That is what I find so contracdict... Jul 30 2007, 08:47 PM
Peanups I totally understand how the whole
"you didn... Jul 30 2007, 08:58 PM
kimmytree QUOTE(Peanups @ Jul 30 2007, 09:58 PM) I ... Jul 30 2007, 11:01 PM
Sandraaa QUOTEWell God can't answer every prayer. Just ... Jul 31 2007, 03:24 AM
medicalxinjektion God is a f**kin sadist. He loves to watch people s... Jul 31 2007, 03:31 AM
xKatt QUOTE(medicalxinjektion @ Jul 31 2007, 03... Jul 31 2007, 03:47 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(medicalxinjektion @ Jul 31 2007, 04... Aug 4 2007, 03:33 PM
Sandraaa ^ You have to die to get some proof. Jul 31 2007, 03:32 AM
Steven Well, do people who commit harakiri go to heaven? Aug 4 2007, 03:36 PM
RAWRstephishere I think you should go try it.
I have no ide... Aug 5 2007, 10:02 PM
SoEffinMajor 1. no you don't go to heaven if you commit sui... Aug 6 2007, 11:54 PM
brooklyneast05 QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Aug 6 2007, 11:54 PM... Aug 6 2007, 11:59 PM
Rachel QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Aug 6 2007, 09:54 PM... Aug 7 2007, 09:27 PM

SoEffinMajor QUOTE(Rachel @ Aug 7 2007, 10:27 PM) Sooo... Aug 7 2007, 11:21 PM

brooklyneast05 QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Aug 7 2007, 11:21 PM... Aug 7 2007, 11:25 PM

SoEffinMajor QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Aug 8 2007, 12:25 ... Aug 7 2007, 11:34 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Aug 7 2007, 12:54 AM... Aug 19 2007, 11:03 PM
___misshilton QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Aug 6 2007, 11:54 PM... Sep 14 2007, 10:49 AM
Joss-eh-lime NO, because according to the Bible you can not mur... Aug 7 2007, 03:19 PM
The Markster QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Aug 7 2007, 01... Aug 7 2007, 03:25 PM
Joss-eh-lime ^Yeah, probably
In my humble opinion God is comple... Aug 7 2007, 09:23 PM
Peanups Yes agreed.. ^^
thankk you Aug 7 2007, 09:27 PM
Joss-eh-lime ^Lets get this straight about this whole name thin... Aug 10 2007, 04:14 AM
Claudel Yeah they all go to the Retards Heaven. Aug 10 2007, 04:16 AM
pinacoolada Well commiting suicide is killing someone (duh). T... Aug 19 2007, 10:46 AM
XxSugarKisses-TeddyHugsxX No one really knows. Sep 12 2007, 03:13 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(XxSugarKisses-TeddyHugsxX @ Sep 12... Sep 13 2007, 11:52 PM
Uronacid QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Sep 14 2007, 12:52 AM) ... Sep 14 2007, 08:32 AM
The-Abominable-CPillar ^ I disagree
It is mentioned many times in the bi... Sep 14 2007, 10:46 AM
JakeKKing QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Sep ... Sep 14 2007, 06:52 PM
Peanups ^ Yes, but if you murder someone, you are still AL... Sep 16 2007, 02:06 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(Peanups @ Sep 16 2007, 03:06 PM) ^ ... Sep 17 2007, 02:37 AM
lilsnoopy God is suppose to be forgiving, a forgiving god, w... Sep 16 2007, 02:28 PM![]() ![]() |