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Minimum Wage
*Steven*
post Jul 24 2007, 08:37 AM
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It's being raised, I think it's a dumb idea. What are your thoughts on the matter?

The minimum wage in Texas is 5.15$/hr. They're raising it to 7.25$/hr over the next 3 summers. I think that's kind of, unnecessary. For one, the majority of people making minimum wage are young high-school students etc. They don't stay making this wage for very long, and it's typically a starter job in which they make this money. By raising the minimum wage, no one (imo) benefits. The prices of goods go up because the employers are having to pay their employees more money and don't want to lose profit. Because of this, every day goods prices have gone up and people who don't benefit from the wage increase have to pay a larger sum of their salary/paycheck towards those every day goods. The people who are getting a higher wage (assuming they were working minimum) don't earn any more money in comparison to what they can buy. Sure the dollar amount is higher, but they have to spend more.
 
 
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NoSex
post Jul 25 2007, 01:39 PM
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Your off on a few things and you're missing a few points, Steve.

First of all, adults (20+) make up about 70.8% of low-wage earners who would be directly affected by the wage increase. Not two percent, not a minority, but a majority of low-wage (near minimum wage) workers are adults. [1] So, the affected parties are parties which need money. Many of these people have families which need support and which fall below the current poverty threshold.
Secondly, you are completely ignoring the real term decrease in the value of minimum wage due to inflation. The minimum wage today is actually lower, in real terms, than it was in 1968. Today's minimum wage is merely 65% of the 1968 wage: This is a problem which needs to be addressed. The cost of living has risen, and we're actually making less than we were four decades ago! We need to adjust for these economic changes and return purchasing power to the minimum wage. [2]
Further, you are ignoring a history of wage increases which never saw economic downfall or trouble. In fact, our most dramatic wage increases never negatively effected the job market. Employment continued to rise, and business wasn't significantly hurt.
And, lastly, you are ignoring the dynamic of supply and demand. Sure, cost is a factor, but prices will meet at an equilibrium which will be adjusted appropriately and accordingly. The cost may lower the supply, but demand will rise which will feed the economy and support a greater supply in effect.

Really, I use to be in the same boat you were, but when recognizing the increasing gap between those in the lower income-earning brackets and those in the middle class and wealthier classes, when you realize that people are still under the poverty threshold despite working full-time, and when understanding the eroded value of our current minimum wage it really only makes sense to support an adjusted and gradual increase in our wages. It'll stimulate the economy and help those who can barely feed themselves.
 

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Steven   Minimum Wage   Jul 24 2007, 08:37 AM
xchrystizzle   I don't think it's so dumb. but then I do....   Jul 24 2007, 08:46 AM
RAWRstephishere   QUOTE(xchrystizzle @ Jul 24 2007, 08:46 A...   Aug 5 2007, 10:13 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(RAWRstephishere @ Aug 5 2007, 10:13...   Aug 5 2007, 10:20 PM
RAWRstephishere   QUOTE(RAWRstephishere @ Aug 5 2007, 10:13...   Aug 5 2007, 11:15 PM
Steven   But even if the people making min wage get the rai...   Jul 24 2007, 08:55 AM
falsetigerlimbs   Minimum wage in CA is already at $7.50, and e...   Jul 24 2007, 09:04 AM
Steven   Yes I understand all of that but the point I'm...   Jul 24 2007, 09:56 AM
falsetigerlimbs   QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 24 2007, 07:56 AM) Yes...   Jul 24 2007, 11:23 AM
BOOGERSHAHA   i never dabble in the debate forum (and i'm ba...   Jul 24 2007, 10:17 AM
Steven   ^Yeah, there's that. Also I didn't even m...   Jul 24 2007, 10:45 AM
Steven   I'm saying raising the minimum wage is pointle...   Jul 24 2007, 11:37 AM
kimmytree   I think it needed to be raised. Here in Florida it...   Jul 24 2007, 01:13 PM
Steven   You shouldn't have to live on minimum wage. Y...   Jul 24 2007, 03:14 PM
Michelle   Steven, you just like to make arguments that you k...   Jul 24 2007, 03:20 PM
Steven   Well why would I make one that I'd lose ^^? I...   Jul 24 2007, 03:27 PM
LadyXTor   I agree, raising the minimum wage is actually hurt...   Jul 24 2007, 03:34 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Just get a better job, ninjas. =P   Jul 24 2007, 04:42 PM
retaliate   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Jul 24 2007, 02:4...   Jul 25 2007, 04:10 PM
Jeng   I get minimum wage STILL and I've been working...   Jul 24 2007, 07:02 PM
Spirited Away   First, minimum wage must adjust to the rising cost...   Jul 24 2007, 07:08 PM
elbaliava   I think that with living expenses rising, the wage...   Jul 24 2007, 07:23 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(elbaliava @ Jul 24 2007, 07:23 PM) ...   Jul 24 2007, 07:31 PM
NoSex   Your off on a few things and you're missing a ...   Jul 25 2007, 01:39 PM
xxpimpjuice1227x   well for California, min. wage is $7.50 and t...   Jul 25 2007, 11:17 PM
Steven   NoSex, I'll respond further in the morning, bu...   Jul 25 2007, 11:35 PM
kimmytree   ^ That's funny. There's just as many adult...   Jul 26 2007, 06:44 PM
Steven   1.7% of the total population, 25 years and over, m...   Jul 26 2007, 09:55 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 26 2007, 09:55 PM) 1.7...   Jul 27 2007, 09:43 AM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 24 2007, 09:37 AM) It...   Jul 27 2007, 09:55 AM
Steven   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 27 2007, 09:55 AM...   Jul 27 2007, 09:58 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 27 2007, 09:58 AM) Yes...   Jul 27 2007, 10:13 AM
Steven   I see I see. I hate to be dense, but why should w...   Jul 27 2007, 10:20 AM
Steven   I hate to be an ass about it, but I think it's...   Jul 27 2007, 10:27 AM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(Steven @ Jul 27 2007, 10:20 AM) I s...   Jul 28 2007, 04:28 PM
ersatz   It's hard to get a job that pays well without ...   Jul 28 2007, 05:30 PM
Spirited Away   'zactly.   Jul 28 2007, 08:48 PM
karmakiller   The price of living is increasing, so the money we...   Jul 28 2007, 09:04 PM
Steven   Fae do you live in Texas? And I find it very hard...   Aug 5 2007, 10:46 PM
Spirited Away   ^ haha.. okay. Yea, Steven, I live in Houston.   Aug 5 2007, 11:45 PM
Steven   Oo didn't know that. I live in houston too ha...   Aug 5 2007, 11:49 PM
Spirited Away   Northwest area. Around the Beltway and 290. You?   Aug 5 2007, 11:51 PM
Steven   Sugar Land, southwest   Aug 6 2007, 12:05 AM
Spirited Away   Ah, you rich punk (j/k). I work in sugar land some...   Aug 6 2007, 12:10 AM


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