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Do people who commit suicide go to heaven?, For the Catholics and stuff, I guess. |
| *The Markster* |
Jun 25 2007, 11:54 PM
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Forgive me if this is a pretty stupid question, but do people who commit suicide go to heaven? I see how it can be wrong to kill your own self, a creation of God, but doesn't God want us all to be happy? I think .. I wanna know what you guys think.
(Btw, how do I make this into a poll ..) |
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Jul 24 2007, 12:46 PM
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First off, I am not Catholic, I am a Christian so here I go;
In believing in God and trully commiting yourself to him, His Holy Spirit is suppose to enter you. You are suppose to be inhabited by the Holy Spirit, and naturally our life should start to change because we will WANT it to. I am not saying that it won't be hard like giving up maybe drugs, or whatever other thing that you may be obsessing over (maybe even a television show) but we are suppose to feel convicted about doing things wrongs. WE DONT HAVE TO GET RID OFF THEM but when the Holy Spirit comes, we want to! In commiting suicide, there are some points to consider in why that person did. Obviously it is making a mockery out of God and abusing his creation, OURSELVES Yes, they go to Hell. Question to ponder then: what if they had confessed that Jesus is Lord and recieved Him and all that stuff. I believe that salvation is a eternal thing and you can never lose it. If you do, you were never trully a believer, so if you commited suicide, then you never really accepted and believed in God. It's not fair some may say, well it's not fair how we all spit in God's face everyday and abuse all of the glorious gifts He has given us. I believe the people that go to hell don't stay forever, I think so because people say God is a forgiving God. Well xKatt you say chritians believe if you kill yourself you don't deserve to set foot in heaven when its not like that, yeah you'll go to hell but you don't stay forever, I think a good example is you can do something wrong, your parents find out, and they put you on punishment. You don't stay on punishment forever. God see us as his children. Thats a point of view from a christain. No, it's not a view from a christian, that is more like a view point of a Mormon, they believe that Hell is not eternal damnation. Well God created the garden of Eden and told Adam and Eve that they could eat the fruits of every tree (except one), so I guess He didn't mind that they were tearing His creations off their limbs and devouring them. It's an interesting point though. You're right... wouldn't destroying the world's air, water and land be considered in the same ballpark as destroying one of God's creations (namely yourself)? Would that mean that all the people responsible for the Danube cyanide spill are going to hell? The people involved in the nuclear testing at Bikini Atoll? The people involved in the shrinking of the Aral Sea? Something to think about. I think you're taking this totally out of context. God NEVER said don't kill plants and trees, if we look in the Bible it says: "Do not murder" And it is easy enough to say that it is in context with harming another HUMAN BEING ON PURPOSE. Though I do believe war is excluded from what murder is, because you are either protecting your country, someone elses, or you are trying to conquer land. Though I do have to say it does deal with the motive of the heart, so that could be a whole different discussion. ALSO:: YES- that means that if you hate someone in your heart, even NOT to lengths of MURDER you are guilty of actually MURDERING someone. |
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The Markster Do people who commit suicide go to heaven? Jun 25 2007, 11:54 PM
xKatt Well, according to Christians, God gave you life a... Jun 26 2007, 12:03 AM
murderwaltz QUOTE(xKatt @ Jun 26 2007, 12:03 AM) Well... Jun 26 2007, 10:27 PM
kayali ^ agree with all 100%.
also, isnt suicide a bit se... Jun 26 2007, 12:43 AM
alovesopure QUOTE(kayali @ Jun 26 2007, 01:43 AM) als... Jun 26 2007, 12:53 AM
kryogenix No one knows. Jun 26 2007, 10:09 PM
MyMichelle People have told me both. shrugs*
If you really w... Jun 26 2007, 10:12 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(ThomasC @ Jun 26 2007, 12:46 AM) I ... Jun 26 2007, 10:14 PM
steve330 Define heaven Jun 26 2007, 11:19 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(steve330 @ Jun 27 2007, 12:19 AM) D... Jun 27 2007, 12:38 AM
Moderator It all depends on what your beliefs are. I say, it... Jun 27 2007, 12:53 AM
x_curse_of_the_curves_x what is mental instability anyways? Like depressio... Jun 27 2007, 12:54 AM
1angel3 I believe the people that go to hell don't sta... Jun 27 2007, 08:08 PM
sadolakced acid QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jun 27 2007, 08:08 PM) I ... Jun 28 2007, 01:51 PM
1angel3 QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 28 2007, 10:5... Jun 28 2007, 09:36 PM
xl0stxThoughtx "You shall not kill." And by committing... Jun 28 2007, 09:31 AM
Aerjae According to my faith, They don't go heaven. M... Jun 28 2007, 09:34 AM
steve330 This is why I like Deism, you don't have to wo... Jun 28 2007, 03:05 PM
hazardous the only unforgivable(sp?) sin is blasphemy.
and ... Jun 28 2007, 06:31 PM
Tamacracker Hopefully... for being cowards. Jun 28 2007, 06:32 PM
Arjuna Capulong It's because the "Christian" "H... Jun 28 2007, 11:41 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Jun 29 2007, 12:4... Jun 29 2007, 02:39 PM
steve330 QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Jun 28 2007, 11:4... Jun 30 2007, 10:44 AM
1angel3 ^^ well, you have people that don't believe in... Jun 29 2007, 10:52 AM
Flair For those who are sure about the answer to this qu... Jun 29 2007, 02:43 PM
1angel3 ^^ We don't know really Jun 29 2007, 02:50 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(The Markster @ Jun 26 2007, 12:54 A... Jun 30 2007, 10:42 AM
JakeKKing QUOTE(xKatt @ Jun 26 2007, 01:03 AM) Well... Jun 30 2007, 10:48 AM
Arjuna Capulong Ok, I'm calling all of you out now; I think we... Jun 30 2007, 12:47 PM
JakeKKing I apologize for the double post. I was hoping it w... Jul 1 2007, 12:40 PM
xburnoutx00 QUOTE(The Markster @ Jun 25 2007, 11:54 P... Jul 21 2007, 06:15 PM
xKatt QUOTE(xburnoutx00 @ Jul 21 2007, 06:15 PM... Jul 22 2007, 11:27 PM
laxumaster8 it really depends on your religion Jul 21 2007, 06:23 PM
Elba There is no heaven. Jul 21 2007, 06:23 PM
JakeKKing Haha. Why do people post topics that can never tru... Jul 21 2007, 06:40 PM
xburnoutx00 The point of the thread is to post your opinion ab... Jul 21 2007, 07:10 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(xburnoutx00 @ Jul 21 2007, 08:10 PM... Jul 22 2007, 09:21 AM
steve330 QUOTE(xburnoutx00 @ Jul 21 2007, 07:10 PM... Jul 22 2007, 10:11 AM
kimmytree I dont believe in a Heaven or a Hell... I dont thi... Jul 21 2007, 08:29 PM
LovelyObsession I think they go to hell.
It is spitting in the fac... Jul 21 2007, 08:53 PM
Fist ... but killing yourself is happiness, isnt?
You... Jul 21 2007, 09:11 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(Fist @ Jul 21 2007, 10:11 PM) ... b... Jul 22 2007, 09:23 AM
mysticalazxn No one can decide. Only god.
But if I was to thin... Jul 24 2007, 02:41 AM
Sandraaa It's been bla bla all along. How can you know ... Jul 24 2007, 02:19 PM
xKatt Here's the answer to your question. It's f... Jul 24 2007, 03:09 PM
Sandraaa Speculations. Did God actually tell them so? Jul 24 2007, 03:21 PM
Michelle *laughs and points at all the Christians who fight... Jul 24 2007, 03:28 PM
N3RDYY Well they either get cremated or burried 6 feet un... Jul 24 2007, 03:33 PM
xKatt @ Sandra: Nope.
My interpretation is:
It's ... Jul 24 2007, 03:33 PM
Sandraaa I think it's fun when people think for God. Wh... Jul 24 2007, 03:41 PM
xKatt ^ Hence the Theist vs. Atheist debate.
You can... Jul 24 2007, 04:03 PM
Sandraaa How can you interprete something you can't fee... Jul 24 2007, 04:12 PM
xKatt Reading the Bible. Jul 24 2007, 04:17 PM
Sandraaa Oh, the book that bored people wrote years years a... Jul 24 2007, 04:20 PM
xKatt Yeah.
This one. Jul 24 2007, 04:26 PM
Sandraaa I actually feel like reading the Bible.
I'm ... Jul 24 2007, 04:43 PM
Michelle QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 24 2007, 04:43 PM) I... Jul 30 2007, 04:49 PM
xKatt ^ In revised editions of the Bible, it's been ... Jul 27 2007, 05:58 PM
Peanups QUOTE(xKatt @ Jul 27 2007, 05:58 PM) ^ In... Jul 27 2007, 07:10 PM
DarkImpressions No.
I wouldnt think so. Jul 27 2007, 06:22 PM
RogueVanity "Define heaven" .. well good point.
IMO... Jul 28 2007, 06:58 AM
Sandraaa Assumptions, really. What of those metally disable... Jul 30 2007, 08:11 AM
Peanups QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 30 2007, 08:11 AM) A... Jul 30 2007, 01:20 PM
kimmytree QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 30 2007, 09:11 AM) A... Jul 30 2007, 01:26 PM
Sandraaa ^ That is what I find so contracdicting about this... Jul 30 2007, 04:35 PM
Peanups QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 30 2007, 04:35 PM) ^... Jul 30 2007, 06:13 PM
kimmytree ^ Wow.
QUOTE^ That is what I find so contracdict... Jul 30 2007, 08:47 PM
Peanups I totally understand how the whole
"you didn... Jul 30 2007, 08:58 PM
kimmytree QUOTE(Peanups @ Jul 30 2007, 09:58 PM) I ... Jul 30 2007, 11:01 PM
Sandraaa QUOTEWell God can't answer every prayer. Just ... Jul 31 2007, 03:24 AM
medicalxinjektion God is a f**kin sadist. He loves to watch people s... Jul 31 2007, 03:31 AM
xKatt QUOTE(medicalxinjektion @ Jul 31 2007, 03... Jul 31 2007, 03:47 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(medicalxinjektion @ Jul 31 2007, 04... Aug 4 2007, 03:33 PM
Sandraaa ^ You have to die to get some proof. Jul 31 2007, 03:32 AM
Steven Well, do people who commit harakiri go to heaven? Aug 4 2007, 03:36 PM
RAWRstephishere I think you should go try it.
I have no ide... Aug 5 2007, 10:02 PM
SoEffinMajor 1. no you don't go to heaven if you commit sui... Aug 6 2007, 11:54 PM
brooklyneast05 QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Aug 6 2007, 11:54 PM... Aug 6 2007, 11:59 PM
Rachel QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Aug 6 2007, 09:54 PM... Aug 7 2007, 09:27 PM

SoEffinMajor QUOTE(Rachel @ Aug 7 2007, 10:27 PM) Sooo... Aug 7 2007, 11:21 PM

brooklyneast05 QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Aug 7 2007, 11:21 PM... Aug 7 2007, 11:25 PM

SoEffinMajor QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Aug 8 2007, 12:25 ... Aug 7 2007, 11:34 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Aug 7 2007, 12:54 AM... Aug 19 2007, 11:03 PM
___misshilton QUOTE(SoEffinMajor @ Aug 6 2007, 11:54 PM... Sep 14 2007, 10:49 AM
Joss-eh-lime NO, because according to the Bible you can not mur... Aug 7 2007, 03:19 PM
The Markster QUOTE(Joss-eh-lime @ Aug 7 2007, 01... Aug 7 2007, 03:25 PM
Joss-eh-lime ^Yeah, probably
In my humble opinion God is comple... Aug 7 2007, 09:23 PM
Peanups Yes agreed.. ^^
thankk you Aug 7 2007, 09:27 PM
Joss-eh-lime ^Lets get this straight about this whole name thin... Aug 10 2007, 04:14 AM
Claudel Yeah they all go to the Retards Heaven. Aug 10 2007, 04:16 AM
pinacoolada Well commiting suicide is killing someone (duh). T... Aug 19 2007, 10:46 AM
XxSugarKisses-TeddyHugsxX No one really knows. Sep 12 2007, 03:13 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(XxSugarKisses-TeddyHugsxX @ Sep 12... Sep 13 2007, 11:52 PM
Uronacid QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Sep 14 2007, 12:52 AM) ... Sep 14 2007, 08:32 AM
The-Abominable-CPillar ^ I disagree
It is mentioned many times in the bi... Sep 14 2007, 10:46 AM
JakeKKing QUOTE(The-Abominable-CPillar @ Sep ... Sep 14 2007, 06:52 PM
Peanups ^ Yes, but if you murder someone, you are still AL... Sep 16 2007, 02:06 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(Peanups @ Sep 16 2007, 03:06 PM) ^ ... Sep 17 2007, 02:37 AM
lilsnoopy God is suppose to be forgiving, a forgiving god, w... Sep 16 2007, 02:28 PM![]() ![]() |