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so kryo (james) wants to speak but complained to me that his topics are always being closed... so lets hear him out. also staff, why dont you openly discuss here about the problems kryo is causing. maybe by having the opposing views come together like this we'll be able to find a middle ground.

if you wish to participate, keep in mind that communication is a two way street. when two opposing views clash, it doesnt neccessarily mean one is entirely right and the other entirely wrong. try to be open minded, consider the opposing view(s), be honest, admit to wrongdoings when wrong, and hopefully together we'll be able to get to the bottom of this.

please keep away from personal attacks. if this topic becomes one big staff bashing thread, its going to be closed. a little tact never hurts, so lets try use this as an opportunity to learn from and understand each another.

[*kryogenix*]

thanks for the response, superstitious, I'll address the relevant points now and the other stuff when you're back.

Keep in mind, let's try keeping any responses relevant to the spoiler issue.

Actually, the book (seemingly, at that point) was already ruined for me. In fact, when cB was upgraded (Friday?) the spoiler tags were not working. There was someone (Rachel, I think) that was upset that she came across spoilers. I made it a point to cover them. Obviously I had read them to do so. There's no personal vendetta here. No offense, but outside this site I don't give Kryo a single thought. I have much more important things to worry about than a member of an online forum, especially to the point of having any type of vendetta against them.

Except I didn't post any spoilers. And the no vendetta thing is funny when you look at my warn history. The only other person other than you and brownsugar that have warned me was HakunaMatata and she even reduced my warning level afterwards and apologized for her mistake.


If it is true that only a handful of the staff has a problem with me and the rest really don't (evidence being the lack of activity against me by them), then I suppose I should listen to SayBloodyMary and apologize for addressing my complaints to the mods collectively. However, if all of you guys really do have a problem (understandable since a good number of members have told me they have a problem with the staff but choose not to publicly complain for fear of persecution, so it probably goes both ways), then the status quo remains.

Actually, I don't believe you have a ongoing vendetta against me. However, I do think that your personal interest did play a part in the punishment. However, I'm not as interested in intent (something I've been saying for quite a while now, yet people just don't seem to understand this) as I am interested in the validity of the punishment. You can attempt to justify and make excuses for a mistake, but at the end of the day it is still a mistake and you guys should own up to it.

The rest will be addressed later since I don't want to bring this thread off topic.

What I said was that there is no point in forcing an apology, because it is meaningless unless the person means it (except more eloquently than that when my brain works properly).

So do the people involved still believe that they were not mistaken? And it's a pain in the ass to lose official member status, so while you have nothing to lose by not apologizing, my posting ability is gimped.

Who are these "people"? And why hasn't anyone but Kryo James spoken up if their issues are genuine?

See above where I mention being afraid to complain publicly.

Anyway. AGAIN, what do you think we are going to accomplish by rehashing the argument about the spoiler debacle? That someone will eventually cave? IT. IS. DONE. WITH.

Clearly, we all think we're right. That is shocking, appaling, and so on and so forth. However, as we can't change it, and nothing new is being brought to the table regarding this specific incident, meaning that we aren't getting anything from it anymore, why don't we all just shake hands and say 'I don't like you, but I'm over it?'

Will it help if I say please?

It won't end until the mods are either held responsible for their mistakes, or prove that I did post spoilers. The former sounds like the most plausible ending.

[*davinci*]

See above where I mention being afraid to complain publicly.

But Spencer mentioned Suzzette's name. Were you referring to just her or the staff as a whole? Suzzette has always been a vocal advocate of reading criticism and taking it seriously without responding as to not be accused of jumping down their throats. As for the staff, well, some like to respond. I suppose it all depends on the genuity of the criticism.

The ONLY people I've heard actual criticism from of late is Kryo and tripvertigo.