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post Jul 17 2007, 12:31 PM
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so kryo (james) wants to speak but complained to me that his topics are always being closed... so lets hear him out. also staff, why dont you openly discuss here about the problems kryo is causing. maybe by having the opposing views come together like this we'll be able to find a middle ground.

if you wish to participate, keep in mind that communication is a two way street. when two opposing views clash, it doesnt neccessarily mean one is entirely right and the other entirely wrong. try to be open minded, consider the opposing view(s), be honest, admit to wrongdoings when wrong, and hopefully together we'll be able to get to the bottom of this.

please keep away from personal attacks. if this topic becomes one big staff bashing thread, its going to be closed. a little tact never hurts, so lets try use this as an opportunity to learn from and understand each another.
 
 
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post Jul 23 2007, 07:02 PM
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Ok, as I've mentioned in the absent threads (both in The Lounge and in the Backstage thread), I'm right smack dab in the middle of moving so I don't have a lot of time. I would like to try my best to touch a little upon this though.

Before you (any of you) are quick to come to conclusions, I have NOT read this entire thread yet, due to time limitations.
QUOTE(shotgunFUNERAL @ Jul 23 2007, 03:03 PM) *
honestly, i think it's a personal vendetta. rebecca was getting upset because she is actually a harry potter fan, and on top of that, a staff member. therefore, she was able to make up a rule to not have the book ruined for her.


Actually, the book (seemingly, at that point) was already ruined for me. In fact, when cB was upgraded (Friday?) the spoiler tags were not working. There was someone (Rachel, I think) that was upset that she came across spoilers. I made it a point to cover them. Obviously I had read them to do so. There's no personal vendetta here. No offense, but outside this site I don't give Kryo a single thought. I have much more important things to worry about than a member of an online forum, especially to the point of having any type of vendetta against them.

QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 23 2007, 07:04 PM) *
And I can back up my claims with reasonable arguments. You guys merely close my threads and try to avoid discussing the issue. So far, I've been right about mostly everything and you guys have been wrong and apologized and admitted (albeit begrudgingly) to your mistakes.

When have I ever tried avoiding discussing anything with you? Every time you PM me, I PM you back as soon as I possibly can.

And you haven't been right about everything nor do I apologize for the verbal warning I gave you. Forget about the spoiler thing for a second. How many times have you bashed people here? Seriously? How about that signature of yours? Yes, I told you that I wasn't offended by it, but that still doesn't mean that it isn't bashing.

The thing is, you have demonstrated a serious disregard for many, not just staff. You've even said that you have a distaste for the community.

Like I said above, I don't think about you outside this site. I don't think about you when I'm ON this site. I address things as they come up. You have had plenty of opportunities to have the stage. I think that this thread is a really sad, but not for reasons you may come up with. I think this is really a big act of narcissism on your part, to disrupt the community because you feel like you are the center of the staff's universe, for better or for worse. That came out more blunt than I would have preferred, but I thought I would be frank with you and also because I'm way tired right now. I was trying to convey the idea (in probably a not-so-good way) that you are not at all singled out, despite what you may think. =X

I think we do a pretty damn good job in general. Add to that, I think you are pretty good guy, I have no beef with you, I don't even know you. I react to situations as they come up and I will not now, nor will I ever apologize for the judgments I have made or the warnings I have given unless they are truly wrong and I do not feel that they have been wrong in your case(s). When I feel that I have done something wrong, I will let you or any injured party know. I am not unapproachable. People have PMd me before when they have disagreed with me and I listen. When I ask people to PM me to clarify why they think something needs to be reopened, I listen and more often than not, a simple communication like that will end up in a reopened thread.

One thing that you are neglecting to bring up here, is the time that Ju-Sun himself had asked you something simple. Remember this thread?
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=180096
QUOTE(micron @ Jul 10 2007, 01:38 AM) *
this topic is misleading.

kryo, if you were acting on good faith and truly wished to discuss the autobiography by dick gregory, you would have stated so in your original post to avoid people from misunderstanding your intent (especially so because N is such a sensitive word). im going to take your lack of clarification as a motive to intentionally mislead, so im going to close this topic.

if you wish to touch upon anything controversial next time, i suggest that you clarify and make sure no one misunderstands your intent.

Do you remember what you did in response? I do. You made this thread.

Dangit, I wish I had more time because I'm jumping all over the place. I apologize for that. The point I was trying to make with the above examples is that you get angry for people warning you without giving you a chance. We have.

The spoiler thing happened after that. See, the spoiler rule was in the works before you did your thing. Foilers, sure. But at the time they were considered spoilers. Why? There is a speculation thread in the Books Forum. Why, if your intent was truly to speculate, did you not post that there? And why did you post them as fact? Why when you were asked not to did you continue? Did you PM me, Suzzette or whoever was on at the time to say ANYTHING? How about... "hey, I'm just messing around." It's about courtesy. You want us to be courteous, to listen, right? What? We don't deserve the same in return? Instead you just kept right on doing it. We had every right to do what we did. In fact, right before I asked you to stop I looked around at another Forum I frequent. Not only are spoilers/foilers forbidden without spoilers tags, but people are immediately punished when doing so. No verbal warning, no please stops.

So this idea, that because what you had posted didn't come to be what actually happened in the books meant that you didn't post spoilers and that staff made a mistake warning for such, doesn't have merit. It is a part of a snippet of time in which you were posting spoilers. It also jived with a lot of what was circulating around the net. I researched that intentionally at the time, even though I like Harry Potter and didn't want to read spoilers. I did so because I didn't want people being disappointed here.

What I think is a little on the irony side is that I did so to help people and didn't do so for myself at all. Obviously I had read what seemed plausible at the time.

I understand that you may disagree with is. May? I jest, I know you will disagree with this. Regardless, I stand by my decisions and I feel good about my decisions.

That's pretty much all I have to say about it. I've got other things to do here at cB than to rehash what we will never see eye to eye on. I'm sorry, but that is the reality.

I really do wish you the best and although I don't apologize to you for my actions because I stand by them, I do apologize that you are so upset by them. That has never been my intention nor will it ever be. I would like for you to feel comfortable here, hell, maybe even like it here again.

Chances are I will not come by this thread for a long while, since I have already spent too much time on the computer as it is. As I mentioned in a different thread, if there is something that you really would like to point out to me, please feel free to link the quote to me in a PM so that I may hop right to it.

In a couple of weeks or so (should just be a couple) I will be back full swing.

PS, sorry if there's a lot of typos or if some sentences are too run-on or at times incoherent even.
 

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micron   kryo   Jul 17 2007, 12:31 PM
beaucoup   no big opinion of what he does now, but he was a g...   Jul 17 2007, 12:40 PM
SayBloodyMary   This thread is not a good idea. But Ok. I think J...   Jul 17 2007, 01:11 PM
SayBloodyMary   Well, to be fair, I would choose a technique that ...   Jul 17 2007, 01:30 PM
SayBloodyMary   Have you ever heard of 'post hoc ergo propter ...   Jul 17 2007, 01:41 PM
SayBloodyMary   Wait, sorry I editted my last post. Which part of ...   Jul 17 2007, 01:46 PM
SayBloodyMary   Well, personally I wouldn't have warned him ov...   Jul 17 2007, 01:53 PM
SayBloodyMary   OK. You're not understanding the subtlety of w...   Jul 17 2007, 02:28 PM
brooklyneast05   i don't think she's (suzzetteee) the topic...   Jul 17 2007, 02:33 PM
SayBloodyMary   So, you don't see how looking at the situation...   Jul 17 2007, 02:37 PM
brooklyneast05   maybe ur right, i don't know, i just thought t...   Jul 17 2007, 02:44 PM
SayBloodyMary   Well, I don't want to discuss 'the problem...   Jul 17 2007, 02:47 PM
brooklyneast05   i guess i just had different impression of what th...   Jul 17 2007, 02:59 PM
SayBloodyMary   Oh don't feel the need to apologize, you haven...   Jul 17 2007, 03:28 PM
Spirited Away   "The problems Kryo is causing" is a resu...   Jul 17 2007, 06:04 PM
steve330   Maybe we should let him respond for himself instea...   Jul 17 2007, 06:07 PM
Spirited Away   So in the "two way street", one way stan...   Jul 17 2007, 06:09 PM
steve330   But this is a thread about him, and maybe he shoul...   Jul 17 2007, 06:10 PM
Spirited Away   So, in a thread about Kryo, only Kryo is supposed ...   Jul 17 2007, 06:14 PM
steve330   GG putting words in my mouth. I'm not saying ...   Jul 17 2007, 06:16 PM
Spirited Away   If this thread is about his "wrongs", th...   Jul 17 2007, 06:20 PM
steve330   I have dealt with him. Does it have to be negativ...   Jul 17 2007, 06:22 PM
Spirited Away   No, thanks. I'm having a discussion, no argume...   Jul 17 2007, 06:24 PM
Elba   I support him   Jul 17 2007, 06:29 PM
steve330   *shrug* I personally think he's funny as well,...   Jul 17 2007, 06:35 PM
steve330   He's probably not @ a computer? Has he been a...   Jul 17 2007, 06:38 PM
Spirited Away   Um, I don't think anyone has claim to know how...   Jul 17 2007, 06:41 PM
tripvertigo   The way i see it, kryo is like gandhi. the veteren...   Jul 17 2007, 07:07 PM
kryogenix   Sorry for my lack of participation, been too busy ...   Jul 17 2007, 07:49 PM
tripvertigo   i've been participating here and there.   Jul 17 2007, 08:28 PM
Fist   I'm supporting both. I do respect kyro's p...   Jul 17 2007, 10:31 PM
MyMichelle   I liked his thread in relationships about the shin...   Jul 17 2007, 11:15 PM
steve330   Yeah man wtf was that girl thinking... SHINY!...   Jul 17 2007, 11:20 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Will wait.   Jul 17 2007, 11:21 PM
kryogenix   Sorry, was in NYC, driving in Chinatown is a pain ...   Jul 18 2007, 10:57 PM
Fist   LOL. No one wants to deal with this thread.   Jul 21 2007, 09:05 PM
Spirited Away   Tee hee. What happened? He was suspended for some ...   Jul 21 2007, 09:09 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jul 21 2007, 10:09 ...   Jul 23 2007, 09:33 AM
kryogenix   Killing it with silence, eh?   Jul 21 2007, 09:30 PM
ventriloquist   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 21 2007, 09:30 PM) ...   Jul 22 2007, 02:29 AM
kryogenix   Same difference. Now that we're at the point...   Jul 23 2007, 09:38 AM
kryogenix   And I did not break any rules and therefore deserv...   Jul 23 2007, 11:53 AM
kryogenix   Ok, how could I stop posting spoilers when I didn...   Jul 23 2007, 12:11 PM
kryogenix   Once again, being misleading is not an offense. Ot...   Jul 23 2007, 12:15 PM
ventriloquist   no matter how valid or not valid you think the rea...   Jul 23 2007, 12:16 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(ventriloquist @ Jul 23 2007, 01:16 ...   Jul 23 2007, 12:18 PM
ventriloquist   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 23 2007, 12:18 PM) ...   Jul 23 2007, 12:21 PM
ersatz   No one knew they weren't spoilers at the time,...   Jul 23 2007, 12:36 PM
Michelle   I do give you a minus one for trying to ruin Harry...   Jul 23 2007, 01:09 PM
Sandraaa   Kryo was warned for posting 'spoilers'. I ...   Jul 23 2007, 01:15 PM
tripvertigo   You guys are wrong. Just because people were angr...   Jul 23 2007, 01:41 PM
SayBloodyMary   Well, Sandra, link me to them, and I'll see wh...   Jul 23 2007, 01:41 PM
tripvertigo   Yeah I wanna see suzette close a topic that micron...   Jul 23 2007, 01:44 PM
Sandraaa   James, what you can do as in warning me? Please e...   Jul 23 2007, 01:45 PM
SayBloodyMary   Well, yeah, but I was joking around. What I really...   Jul 23 2007, 01:48 PM
tripvertigo   Sorry, but I'm still not convinced. If I told...   Jul 23 2007, 01:54 PM
shotgunFUNERAL   QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Jul 23 2007, 01:54 PM...   Jul 23 2007, 02:03 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Jul 23 2007, 02:54 PM...   Jul 23 2007, 02:11 PM
Sandraaa   James, this is one of my spoilers: http://www.crea...   Jul 23 2007, 02:15 PM
SayBloodyMary   QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Jul 23 2007, 07:54 PM...   Jul 23 2007, 02:28 PM
tripvertigo   QUOTEAnd frankly, other that forcing whoever it wa...   Jul 23 2007, 03:26 PM
Sandraaa   Fine. It was a joke. Read the whole thread James...   Jul 23 2007, 02:30 PM
SayBloodyMary   ^ Oh, I've just seen what you meant, and Elba...   Jul 23 2007, 02:35 PM
Sandraaa   Oh. All covered up I guess.   Jul 23 2007, 02:40 PM
SayBloodyMary   Yes, Trish. Not being illterate, I do in fact unde...   Jul 23 2007, 03:32 PM
tripvertigo   Feedback. Forum.   Jul 23 2007, 03:34 PM
SayBloodyMary   Response to Feedback. Forum. Your question?   Jul 23 2007, 03:37 PM
tripvertigo   my question is: How far is that stick really shov...   Jul 23 2007, 03:39 PM
SayBloodyMary   I drive it in deeper every night, just so I can be...   Jul 23 2007, 03:40 PM
tripvertigo   That's hot. Youtube that.   Jul 23 2007, 03:43 PM
HakunaMatata   James [kryo], why did you continually post the spe...   Jul 23 2007, 03:44 PM
Sandraaa   ... so, we were talking about Kryo?   Jul 23 2007, 03:45 PM
tripvertigo   Maybe he did it because there's no reason not ...   Jul 23 2007, 03:46 PM
SayBloodyMary   Which is fine, and a perfectly legitimate attitude...   Jul 23 2007, 03:54 PM
tripvertigo   Yeah it is sensable. Was he posting a spoiler? N...   Jul 23 2007, 03:58 PM
SayBloodyMary   *sensible Again, that's fine. However, he was...   Jul 23 2007, 04:04 PM
tripvertigo   QUOTE(SayBloodyMary @ Jul 23 2007, 02:04 ...   Jul 23 2007, 07:36 PM
SayBloodyMary   QUOTE(tripvertigo @ Jul 24 2007, 01:36 AM...   Jul 23 2007, 08:22 PM
kryogenix   So now we're punishing people whenever someone...   Jul 23 2007, 06:00 PM
SayBloodyMary   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 24 2007, 12:00 AM) ...   Jul 23 2007, 07:16 PM
kryogenix   And I can back up my claims with reasonable argume...   Jul 23 2007, 06:04 PM
kryogenix   Go read the topic over, lazy. Keep reading it unti...   Jul 23 2007, 06:24 PM
superstitious   Ok, as I've mentioned in the absent threads (b...   Jul 23 2007, 07:02 PM
shotgunFUNERAL   just because you guys act like this is the governm...   Jul 23 2007, 07:16 PM
SayBloodyMary   Anyway. AGAIN, what do you think we are going to a...   Jul 23 2007, 07:21 PM
kryogenix   thanks for the response, superstitious, I'll a...   Jul 23 2007, 07:28 PM
davinci   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 23 2007, 08:28 PM) ...   Jul 23 2007, 07:36 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(davinci @ Jul 23 2007, 08:36 PM) Bu...   Jul 23 2007, 08:07 PM
shotgunFUNERAL   we've talked about this before. shall i recall...   Jul 23 2007, 07:33 PM
shotgunFUNERAL   we've talked about this before. shall i recall...   Jul 23 2007, 07:34 PM
shotgunFUNERAL   nah, i'll let it go since you don't want i...   Jul 23 2007, 07:42 PM
kryogenix   Alright, I'll call for another clarification: ...   Jul 23 2007, 08:43 PM
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