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what is racism???, Name callin'
MoHaWkGrl
post Jul 20 2007, 10:32 AM
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You call me:
"redneck"
"Hillbilly"
"Slaker"
"Cracker"
"Honkey"
"Whitey"
"Gringo"
"Sage"
and you think it's OK.

But when I call you:
"Jungle bunny"
"Spear chunker"
"Coon"
"Wet back"
"Jiggaboo"
"Porch monkey"
"Sand nigger"
"Rag head"
"Towelhead"
"Camel Jockey"
"Gook"
"Spook"
"Nigger"
"Kike"
"Slant eyes"
or
"Chink"
you call me a racist.


-You have the United Negro College Fund.

-You have Martin Luther King Day.

-You have Black History Month.

-You have Cesar Chavez Day.

-You have Yom Hashoah

-You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi

-You have the NAACP.

-You have BET.


-If we had WET (white entertainment television) ...we'd be racist.

-If we had a White Pride Day... you would call us racist.

-If we had white history month... we'd be racist.

-If we had an organization for only whites to "advance" our lives... we'd be racist.

-If we had a college fund that only gave white students scholarships...you know we'd be racist.

-In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights. If we marched for our race and rights...you would call us racist.

-Did you know that some high school students decided to make a club for only the white students because the other ethnicities had them. they all got sent to court for being racist but the african-american, Latino, and Asia clubs were not even questioned.

-You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it. But when we announce our white pride, you call us racists.



I am white.

and

I am proud.

But, you call me a racist.



Why is it that only whites can be racists?

Now watch, I'll be racist for reposting this

So what? no-one will re-post this for fear of being called racist
 
 
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Spirited Away
post Jul 21 2007, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jul 20 2007, 07:53 PM) *
i understand that there's not time, but it's annoying when every year they go over the same exact thing over and over and over and over and over, we always start at the same place and stop at the same place. we study the pilgrims getting here everytime, we study the kings and queens of england every time. repeated over and over.

in high school a kid in my class asked why we spent one week on africa and a semester on europe. and the teachers reply was that africa just didn't have as much important history. i understand that that's not the majority of teachers opinions though.

they should teach more history from all around the world i think, instead of drilling the same things into our head over and over.

at least here in america, i don't know how they teach history everywhere else


Really? My curriculum always started where we stopped last year. Yes, some material is repeated at the beginning, but that's a refresher (like there's a refresher for math during the first couple of weeks). Some material might also be repeated if the crossed over to other historical events.

What the teacher probably meant was that Africa did not impact the foundation of American history as much as Europe did. Founders of America didn't come from Africa and our laws are not influenced by African laws. The chains of slavery began in Africa, but the most horrendous events relative to slavery happened in America (not Africa). I completely understand the emphasis on Europe and America, what problem do you see with this?

If you only studied kings and queens and pilgrims, I take it you never learned about WWI, WWII, Cold War, Vietnam War... the likes? You've never had a course of world religions... That's sad. What district are you in? Your parents should really take it to the board of education.

My education, on the other hand, was impeccable and I have no grounds for complaint (except for the bad cafeteria food).

Oh, if pilgrims and kings and queens are boring to you, may I suggest taking an honors course or maybe even history AP? Those classes encourage a little more accelerated learning for your taste.

QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 20 2007, 07:57 PM) *
What do you mean it's time? There's plenty of time to learn plenty of subjects =\

I'm a prime example of it... my goal is to be a certified Scholar, and not just in one subject but as many as possible.
The problem with America is, it's selfish. It only cares about itself and anything that effects it. So America in a sense does teach World History, but only parts of the world that revolved around America.


So why is it that my friend, who's been a 9th grade biology teacher for a good four years now, can't find time to finish the last 3 chapters of the biology book? Why is it that my Algebra 2 teacher skipped around our book? Oh, that's right... she said "we don't have time to cover those chapters, omit them". If you research a little, this is true of most schools (they don't have time to cover everything they should be or things they want to cover). Not that I'm complaining because I turned out fine without finite until college.

Also, I don't know about you, but I have had a couple of friends in "regular" classes (as opposed to honors/AP/IB) who has trouble with the simple idea of the Constitution... Not everyone's in honors/AP/IB, you understand?

The problem with America is that there are a bunch of people who talk the talk, but don't walk the walk.

You do realize that America is as "selfish" about its teaching world history as any other country is self in teaching its history, right? If you're in Vietnam (like I was), you'd learned Vietnamese history and know it until you're bored of it as these guys are bored of American history here. The same goes if you're in China, France, Russia.. (more so with the communist countries).

Why does it supprise so many of you that American history is focused on American history? If you want to learn world history, take a course in world history. If you want to learn about slavery specifically, study it on your own time. The same goes if you want to really go into depth with the Vietnam War, founding fathers... whatever. If you want to learn history from another country's perspective, go research on your own or enroll to take a course in a different country.

Scholars don't become scholars from going to high school alone. They become one through arduous work OUTSIDE of the classroom environment. Stop blaming America for your own lack of convictions.

Last but not least, tama, there's a saying for one such as you... "Jack of all trades, master of none". I'm not sure if that's a good thing, or a bad thing.
 
brooklyneast05
post Jul 21 2007, 01:14 AM
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this is really just a reply to ur questions, not so much a debate


QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jul 21 2007, 12:09 AM) *
What the teacher probably meant was that Africa did not impact the foundation of American history as much as Europe did. Founders of America didn't come from Africa and our laws are not influenced by African laws. The chains of slavery began in Africa, but the most horrendous events relative to slavery happened in America (not Africa). I completely understand the emphasis on Europe and America, what problem do you see with this?


in a world history class, i think we should study the world, regardless of how much it had to do with America.

QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jul 21 2007, 12:09 AM) *
If you only studied kings and queens and pilgrims, I take it you never learned about WWI, WWII, Cold War, Vietnam War... the likes? You've never had a course of world religions... That's sad. What district are you in? Your parents should really take it to the board of education.


no kidding, i find WWI, WWII, ect ect to be more interesting personally. but we seemed to barely get to these subjects, it was always towards the end of the year, and u know how high school kids are at the end of the year typically.


QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jul 21 2007, 12:09 AM) *
My education, on the other hand, was impeccable and I have no grounds for complaint (except for the bad cafeteria food).


i went to brooklyn technical high school. it was very good as far as things like math, science, ect which is what i do best at. but no, i didn't enjoy or feel like i got that much out of my history classes.

QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jul 21 2007, 12:09 AM) *
My education, on the other hand, was impeccable and I have no grounds Oh, if pilgrims and kings and queens are boring to you, may I suggest taking an honors course or maybe even history AP? Those classes encourage a little more accelerated learning for your taste.


i thought of this too, because i was in all the AP math and science classes. but the history was full both years, and when was a senior and had seating advantage over lower class men i didn't have room in my schedule.


i'm sure a lot if not most schools do a good job, my personal experience with it wasn't the best. but i'm studying more into what i want to study now in college, so it's ok i suppose.

 

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MoHaWkGrl   what is racism???   Jul 20 2007, 10:32 AM
Mercy   Not to be a ass but Did you get this off myspace??   Jul 20 2007, 11:25 AM
Tamacracker   Racism As far as racism goes, if a black person ca...   Jul 20 2007, 11:34 AM
Sulfur-in-K   If anyone calls me anything, I really don't ca...   Jul 20 2007, 11:37 AM
Frankie   QUOTE-You have Black History Month HAHAHAHAHAHAH ...   Jul 20 2007, 11:41 AM
Detective   QUOTE(Frankie @ Jul 20 2007, 12:41 PM) HA...   Jul 20 2007, 11:57 AM
Tamacracker   lol why would the teacher get mad if it's true...   Jul 20 2007, 12:02 PM
1angel3   What do you call Independents day, Thanks Giving,a...   Jul 20 2007, 12:04 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 20 2007, 01:04 PM) Wh...   Jul 20 2007, 12:08 PM
1angel3   ^ Black people didn't have anything to do with...   Jul 20 2007, 12:11 PM
Sandraaa   You know, if Whites were considered to be 'min...   Jul 20 2007, 12:11 PM
1angel3   ^ I agree   Jul 20 2007, 12:12 PM
superstitious   QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 20 2007, 01:04 PM) Wh...   Jul 20 2007, 12:17 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(superstitious @ Jul 20 2007, 01:17 ...   Jul 20 2007, 12:29 PM
1angel3   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 20 2007, 09:29 AM...   Jul 20 2007, 04:38 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 20 2007, 05:38 PM) Ye...   Jul 20 2007, 04:45 PM
1angel3   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 20 2007, 01:45 PM...   Jul 20 2007, 04:54 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 20 2007, 04:38 PM) Ev...   Jul 20 2007, 04:47 PM
krnprydeee   aiyo girl, you brainwashed hahaha, i'm dying. ...   Jul 20 2007, 04:39 PM
Sandraaa   ^ [off topic] I'd love to hear your voice / ac...   Jul 20 2007, 04:39 PM
1angel3   QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 20 2007, 01:39 PM) ^...   Jul 20 2007, 04:57 PM
Sandraaa   ^ The Black slavery is much more known than any ot...   Jul 20 2007, 04:47 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 20 2007, 05:47 PM) ^...   Jul 20 2007, 04:51 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 20 2007, 04:51 PM...   Jul 20 2007, 04:54 PM
brooklyneast05   well i suppose it's better to be enslaved than...   Jul 20 2007, 04:53 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(brooklyneast05 @ Jul 20 2007, 05:53...   Jul 20 2007, 04:59 PM
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xburnoutx00   QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 20 2007, 05:10 PM) We...   Jul 20 2007, 10:53 PM
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superfluous   maybe shes a want-to-be   Jul 20 2007, 06:10 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 20 2007, 04:38 PM) Ye...   Jul 20 2007, 07:14 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jul 20 2007, 08:14 ...   Jul 20 2007, 07:18 PM
Spirited Away   The problem is time. There isn't enough time f...   Jul 20 2007, 07:24 PM
brooklyneast05   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jul 20 2007, 07:24 ...   Jul 20 2007, 07:53 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(Spirited Away @ Jul 20 2007, 08:24 ...   Jul 20 2007, 07:57 PM
Spirited Away   What's not happening?   Jul 20 2007, 07:27 PM
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brooklyneast05   this is really just a reply to ur questions, not s...   Jul 21 2007, 01:14 AM
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Spirited Away   ^ damn right!   Jul 23 2007, 10:10 PM


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