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ABORTION VERSION TWO
sadolakced acid
post Jul 15 2006, 10:44 PM
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yea, someone head to the other one and close it.

i'm going to lay down a few ground rules here.

1- i don't care what your stance is, and no one else does either

2- use logic and facts to try to convince us to believe something. it's called a debate not a disorganized rumble.

3- be civil. a lot of you seem to have problems with this.

4- no links, unless neccisary. no quoting outside sources over a paragraph. USE YOUR OWN WORDS. if i don't care what you think about it, why would i care what someone else thinks? and really. stop using other people's arguements.

alright. and you know, keeping your posts short isn't a bad thing either.

so, the set up:

should abortion be made illegal in the united states
 
 
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*MyMichelle*
post Jul 14 2007, 02:59 PM
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Would YOU be willing to adopt all the children who come from families who should not have the babies? B/c if you are, then sure! Make abortion illegal.
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(MyMichelle @ Jul 14 2007, 03:59 PM) *
Would YOU be willing to adopt all the children who come from families who should not have the babies? B/c if you are, then sure! Make abortion illegal.



As long as there's people who cannot get pregnant... that's always an option for them. A kid livin in an adaption home or whatever, is better than living in military school or a religious school.

Would I adopt a kid? If I can't get my girl pregnant... you bet.
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 03:10 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 03:08 PM) *
As long as there's people who cannot get pregnant... that's always an option for them. A kid livin in an adaption home or whatever, is better than living in military school or a religious school.

Would I adopt a kid? If I can't get my girl pregnant... you bet.


The thing is there are people who cannot get pregnant, yet we have so many orpans. We have gay couples and infertile couples, and there are still babies without homes. I'm not sure how great living in an adoption home is - have you lived in one before? Because it seems to me that a lot of kids do not like the prospect of living in one.
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE(MyMichelle @ Jul 14 2007, 04:10 PM) *
The thing is there are people who cannot get pregnant, yet we have so many orpans. We have gay couples and infertile couples, and there are still babies without homes. I'm not sure how great living in an adoption home is - have you lived in one before? Because it seems to me that a lot of kids do not like the prospect of living in one.



Gay couples are just a form of population control, scientifically speaking at least, so it's better not to mention them in this. They're candidates for adopting don't get me wrong.

Infertile couples have their choice as well, if they want to be responsible for a child or not.

And no I've never lived in one...

Listen the world can never be perfect. And sadly, a human who thinks it's better to murder a child (who for all we know could have been a scientist for God sake) than to give birth to the child and put him/her up for adoption so that at least he/she has a chance to get a great family.

Could you list me some things that seem so wrong about adoption? And the buildings in which these adopted kids live in? Cuz from what I see... they eat well, they get educated, they go on field trips, they celebrate holidays.



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You mean LEGAL.

In cases of rape or a threat to life rolleyes.gif
 
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post Jul 14 2007, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 03:20 PM) *
Gay couples are just a form of population control, scientifically speaking at least, so it's better not to mention them in this. They're candidates for adopting don't get me wrong.

Infertile couples have their choice as well, if they want to be responsible for a child or not.

And no I've never lived in one...

Listen the world can never be perfect. And sadly, a human who thinks it's better to murder a child (who for all we know could have been a scientist for God sake) than to give birth to the child and put him/her up for adoption so that at least he/she has a chance to get a great family.

Could you list me some things that seem so wrong about adoption? And the buildings in which these adopted kids live in? Cuz from what I see... they eat well, they get educated, they go on field trips, they celebrate holidays.


It is not everyone's opinion that abortion means "murder."

I do not think anything is wrong with adoption; I think it is incorrect to believe that placing unwanted children under the care of people with only so much is the right thing to do - not to mention stripping the mother of many things (which have been previously mentioned, so do not ask what I meant by that). I did not say that being in an adoption home was terrible, but you have never lived in one as well. I said this: "a lot of kids do not like the prospect of living in one." I think that living in a building and waiting for someone to come pick them up everyday like a pound is somewhat depressing.

Basically, my point is that, sure, it is possible to put up babies for adoption as another choice besides abortion, but there are not enough people adopting. Like I originally said, if everyone who is against abortion was willing to completely, fully, and deeply care and raise children who were meant to be aborted, then I have would have absolutely no issue with making abortion illegal. :] Unfortunately, that is not true. I doubt that most of the people who are against abortion would be willing to adopt the number of fetuses that need to be aborted.
 

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sadolakced acid   ABORTION VERSION TWO   Jul 15 2006, 10:44 PM
Mells-Star   ^^^ Yer Der I no I was jus expressing my own opini...   Jul 20 2006, 12:54 AM
forza   QUOTE(Mells-Star @ Jul 20 2006, 12:5...   Jul 20 2006, 01:27 AM
disco infiltrator   QUOTE(Mells-Star @ Jul 20 2006, 12:5...   Jul 21 2006, 11:19 AM
sadolakced acid   what's with you people and opinions? don...   Jul 20 2006, 01:59 AM
Angelina Taylor   By the way, I really don't want to continue th...   Jul 20 2006, 09:27 AM
iRock cB   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 20 2006, 10:2...   Jul 21 2006, 11:46 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 22 2006, 12:46 AM) A...   Jul 22 2006, 08:03 AM
cashmere deer   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 20 2006, 7:27...   Jul 24 2006, 01:29 PM
rawtheekuh.   Mells-Star: Read the rules before posting in here...   Jul 20 2006, 12:21 PM
I Shot JFK   It REALLY frustrates me that the paper a couple of...   Jul 21 2006, 11:22 AM
disco infiltrator   I don't really think the main question in this...   Jul 21 2006, 11:32 AM
I Shot JFK   well, you say they dont try to hurt them, but they...   Jul 21 2006, 11:39 AM
disco infiltrator   Yes I did. And, I've before posted this humon...   Jul 21 2006, 01:11 PM
I Shot JFK   oh good, because i suddenly registered that it see...   Jul 21 2006, 01:13 PM
baby_in_blue   i think its the womans choice.. however i also thi...   Jul 21 2006, 04:11 PM
smallsXalmighty   I think it is the womans choice if she wants to or...   Jul 21 2006, 04:17 PM
ChaosPunx   I support it because i think its the womens choice...   Jul 22 2006, 10:43 AM
ECD & C0   QUOTEWhat is it that gives an unborn child more va...   Jul 23 2006, 01:38 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(ECD & C0 @ Jul 23 2006, 1:38 PM...   Jul 23 2006, 02:06 PM
sadolakced acid   america is not the land of the moral high ground. ...   Jul 23 2006, 08:24 PM
ThatBrokenGirl.   One word. Adopiton. Its better than killing a Huma...   Jul 23 2006, 08:31 PM
Angelina Taylor   ^ Um the fetus isn't a human being in the peri...   Jul 23 2006, 08:37 PM
sadolakced acid   banning abortions isn't really a life changing...   Jul 23 2006, 08:43 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 24 2006, 2:43...   Jul 24 2006, 11:15 AM
ECD & C0   QUOTEn animal is alive and helpless, however they ...   Jul 24 2006, 05:44 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(ECD & C0 @ Jul 24 2006, 6:44 PM...   Jul 24 2006, 05:45 PM
cashmere deer   Alright I know I said I was done, but hey apparent...   Jul 25 2006, 08:20 PM
Endless_Symphony   QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 25 2006, 9:20 P...   Jul 25 2006, 10:08 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 25 2006, 9:20 P...   Jul 26 2006, 09:26 AM
cashmere deer   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 26 2006, 7:26...   Jul 27 2006, 10:23 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 27 2006, 11:23 ...   Jul 28 2006, 11:09 PM
Endless_Symphony   after replying more times than i can count, i have...   Jul 25 2006, 12:38 AM
msladyliberty   I like Endless Symphony's arguments. Abortion...   Jul 26 2006, 04:44 PM
sadolakced acid   we are all so powerful. we do get to decide who l...   Jul 26 2006, 01:21 AM
cashmere deer   I think the overall problem in both arguments is t...   Jul 26 2006, 09:01 AM
sadolakced acid   ^ let her believe what she will. you can belie...   Jul 29 2006, 02:17 AM
cashmere deer   For you to say that I am completely incorrect is a...   Jul 29 2006, 04:53 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 29 2006, 5:53 P...   Jul 29 2006, 05:11 PM
cashmere deer   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 29 2006, 3:11...   Jul 29 2006, 05:47 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 29 2006, 6:47 P...   Jul 29 2006, 07:39 PM
cashmere deer   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 29 2006, 5:39...   Jul 29 2006, 09:19 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 29 2006, 10:19 ...   Jul 30 2006, 09:38 PM
Angelina Taylor   I did leave her to believe what she wanted to beli...   Jul 29 2006, 01:19 PM
rawtheekuh.   QUOTEIf you were to say brake into your neighbors ...   Jul 29 2006, 05:11 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 29 2006, 4:53 P...   Jul 29 2006, 09:43 PM
cashmere deer   ...i would have though it would be the other way a...   Jul 29 2006, 09:58 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(cashmere deer @ Jul 29 2006, 9:58 P...   Aug 2 2006, 02:14 AM
xnarcotic   as much as everyone is making their points about t...   Aug 2 2006, 04:20 AM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(xnarcotic @ Aug 2 2006, 5:20 AM) as...   Aug 2 2006, 10:48 AM
douchebag   The prospect of killing babies is just too bonerif...   Aug 2 2006, 04:38 AM
oX_Muh_Nirvana_Xo   Depends the situation. If the woman is raped. Then...   Aug 2 2006, 11:22 AM
Angelina Taylor   ^ Only, it's not murder because it's not a...   Aug 2 2006, 01:00 PM
mznikki   i am prochoice. and it should be legal. it alway...   Oct 26 2006, 04:07 PM
boo! grr...   It should not be illegal. Cuz it's their choic...   Oct 29 2006, 12:47 AM
rAwritsgWeg   I hate the very Idea of it. But once again, we sha...   Nov 4 2006, 03:04 AM
just another teenage dirtbag   i think that it should be legal because it's t...   Nov 7 2006, 04:14 PM
moorepocket*   yes, it should. If you give life to something, you...   Nov 14 2006, 02:02 PM
kryogenix   Gotta love euphemisms. Choice sounds much better t...   Nov 15 2006, 07:58 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 15 2006, 6:58 PM) G...   Nov 16 2006, 02:04 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Nov 16 2006, 2:04...   Nov 16 2006, 08:53 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Nov 16 2006, 1:58 AM) G...   Jan 3 2007, 01:40 PM
Endless_Symphony   ^ actually, partial birth was a term coined by pro...   Nov 15 2006, 11:16 PM
sadolakced acid   pro life is just not an accurate name. certainly ...   Nov 17 2006, 01:27 AM
yrrnotelekktric   it`s entirely up to the woman; although i coul...   Nov 20 2006, 03:12 PM
Obscure Enigma   I think abortion is definetly wrong, but I don...   Dec 29 2006, 09:03 PM
Mini   All I have to say is: ABORTION HURTS LIKE SHIT. ...   Jul 12 2007, 01:53 PM
Tamacracker   All I'm goin to say is, I'm against aborti...   Jul 12 2007, 02:19 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 12 2007, 03:19 PM...   Jul 12 2007, 07:17 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jul 12 2007, 08:17 PM) ...   Jul 12 2007, 07:34 PM
1angel3   Abortion should be illegal with exceptions. Depend...   Jul 13 2007, 03:10 PM
steve330   But what's to stop someone from claiming they ...   Jul 13 2007, 03:12 PM
resplendence   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 13 2007, 04:12 PM) B...   Jul 13 2007, 03:58 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 13 2007, 04:12 PM) B...   Jul 13 2007, 04:31 PM
Sandraaa   You know, I used to be very much against abortion ...   Jul 13 2007, 04:28 PM
ersatz   People don't always report it because sometime...   Jul 13 2007, 11:53 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(ersatz @ Jul 14 2007, 12:53 AM) Peo...   Jul 14 2007, 12:05 AM
Mercy   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 05:05 AM...   Jul 14 2007, 08:40 AM
steve330   ^Easier said than done. Rape is a traumatic thing...   Jul 14 2007, 12:08 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 14 2007, 01:08 AM) ^...   Jul 14 2007, 12:55 PM
MyMichelle   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jul 14 2007, 12:55 PM) ...   Jul 14 2007, 12:57 PM
MyMichelle   I think abortions should be allowed. This is a rig...   Jul 14 2007, 12:11 AM
fathomlessdame   It should be illegal with exceptions for rape and ...   Jul 14 2007, 01:25 PM
resplendence   QUOTE(fathomlessdame @ Jul 14 2007, 02:25...   Jul 14 2007, 01:54 PM
MyMichelle   I think that people who are against abortion that ...   Jul 14 2007, 01:30 PM
steve330   Fathomless, are you saying that the people who can...   Jul 14 2007, 01:33 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 14 2007, 02:33 PM) F...   Jul 14 2007, 02:58 PM
MyMichelle   Would YOU be willing to adopt all the children who...   Jul 14 2007, 02:59 PM
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MyMichelle   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 03:20 PM...   Jul 14 2007, 03:33 PM
Elba   Oh God, so many idiots in this world.   Jul 14 2007, 03:08 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(Elba @ Jul 14 2007, 04:08 PM) Oh Go...   Jul 14 2007, 03:11 PM
Elba   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 01:11 PM...   Jul 14 2007, 03:12 PM
steve330   Tamacracker, abortion is legal. I don't know ...   Jul 14 2007, 03:29 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 14 2007, 04:29 PM) T...   Jul 14 2007, 03:37 PM
Elba   So you're saying abortions are illegal right n...   Jul 14 2007, 03:29 PM
1angel3   The reason I think abortion should be illegal beca...   Jul 14 2007, 03:34 PM
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