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Those who would give up ESSENTIAL liberty to purchase a little TEMPORARY safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety
Comptine
post Jul 13 2007, 04:40 PM
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The topic title is a quote that is often misquoted as Benjamin Franklin's. However, no matter who said it, let's anaylze the quote and use it for modern day purposes, just for the hell of it.

In my mind, I think suspending essential liberties just for security damages the ideals our country was built upon, the ideals that democracy were built upon. The Patriotic Act comes strongly to mind because, while it targets only a certain group of Americans, it seems that our liberties are not guaranteeed even though America and the UN say they are. Though suspending the liberties of certain people or only suspending a certain liberty (right to privacy) seem small compare to a nation's welfare, it seems that what the Bill of Rights and the Constitution dictates isn't meant to be constant.

Do you think temporary security, or any security if you want, is worth the suspension of essential liberties (in my mind civil and constitutional rights = essential liberties)?
 
 
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post Jul 13 2007, 05:34 PM
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This topic will change through out time. I saw that you were talking about right to privacy. The first thing that came to my mind was wire tapping. You know, people listening in on your conversations. Considering that technology gets more advanced every day, security is going to have to increase. Therefore taking privileges away. I personally think that it's wrong.

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