god, part 2 Options

[*CEP*]

So yeah...the debate continues.. have fun.

- Chinkieeyedpnoi

[Spirited Away]

Fae, once again, you are generalizing, do you mean 'you' as christians or 'you' as in me? because personally, i dont believe that what those 'Christians' did was right, but why should I, personally be held accountable for their actions? And you say that you have to be burned fo enternity in hell.. hmm.. you dont have to be, im sure you realize that by now. You have no idea what christians.. yes i am generalizing now, go through day from day for their beliefs. You dont have any idea what its like to walk through the hallway everday knowing that your every move is being scrutinized.

I said you and I meant Christians, because they (the knights) were called themselves Christians, and I'm taking their words for it. I am sincerely sorry if you are offended by it, but then you should blame them for their actions, and not me for my interpretation of it.

Having your every move scrutinize is nothing compared to having to fight for your life because you're considered a heathen. Now days, religion is no longer so harsh in their wake, but it is still very strict. You are promised forgiveness no matter what you do, why must you be fearful? In that, I am truly confused.

You don't think I'm fearful of going to purgatory? In truth, I am, but I since I do not have a choice in it, I will not fight it. By having no choice, I mean that I do not believe in God and I would be forced to believe in Him in order to be forgiven.

God has made it plain, in everything, God is all around us, you just have to elvaluate your perspective. If you dont want to think He's not here, then of course you're not going to see Him. As for the people in other countries, God wasnt speaking of that at all, because there are going to be people who can honestly stand before God and say that they didnt know. In that scripture that you were quoting the entire time, It was Paul speaking throughout the entire scripture about people that hear the word of God yet ignore it.

Science has made it plain, in everything, science is all around us, you just have to evaluate your perspective. If you don't want to think science is not here, then of course you're not going to see it.

I ignore things that cannot see (spiritually speaking).

I did not say that I am a better christian. I simply said that for that CHURCH to commit such sin, and then to right it by saying that they would be forgiven, they were corrupt. The church is much different than being just a believer. I go to church, as a believer, to learn more about Christ. But in the Bible it says that the churches have grown corrupt and greedy. Do not assume that because there is a church that claims to be Christian, I am a part of it. MANY MANY MANY people today call themselves Christians, it isnt fair to assume that because they give themselves the title, and expect to be recognized as one, that we act, or believe in the same things.

So you are a bit different than most Christians. Most Christians swears that the Church is the house of God, and therefore cannot be corrupted as God is its master.

It isn't fair for me to say that, no, but it isn't fair for you (or the person) who said that non-believers are senseless, wicked, faithless, heartless, ruthless... etc. That wasn't only unfair, but incredibly outdated and ignorant.

I do, however, owe you an apology. I shouldnt have debated anything with you, I knew you would take these things with a hardened heart and not recieve the true love in the scriptures and whatnot. I made it a point to show you that your ways were "wrong" which in turn, was wrong of me. I know that no matter what so called facts I give you, that you will combat everything I say with some sarcastic remark. It was wrong of me to go on with this.

I will admit being in the wrong myself, but only for that I was sarcastic in my reply. I usually don't unless I am offended by something.