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So yeah...the debate continues.. have fun.
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![]() crazy*CHRIST*ian ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 45 Joined: Jun 2004 Member No: 21,518 ![]() |
QUOTE How have you suffered persecution for your beliefs? You persecute EACH OTHER and persecute people of other faiths. You divide amongst yourself to different denominations, each claiming to be the 'right' one. Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics, WE ARE the ones who are labled as HEATHENS and BARBARIANS. We're "LOST" "REBELS" in your eyes. We sit near a puddle of mud while you are swimming in the ocean. WE're the ones who are being persecuted for our free will. You all just get off easy being forgiven and all and getting to go to Heaven while we have to be BURNED for eternity in HELL. Remember the Salem Wictch trials? Women were burned because a few 'good' Christians believe that they were working for the Devil... ooooh. I don't see how YOU could come to the conclusion that Christians suffer more. That makes me wanna laugh Fae, once again, you are generalizing, do you mean 'you' as christians or 'you' as in me? because personally, i dont believe that what those 'Christians' did was right, but why should I, personally be held accountable for their actions? And you say that you have to be burned fo enternity in hell.. hmm.. you dont have to be, im sure you realize that by now. You have no idea what christians.. yes i am generalizing now, go through day from day for their beliefs. You dont have any idea what its like to walk through the hallway everday knowing that your every move is being scrutinized. QUOTE If He has made it "plain" then there would be no such thing as a non-believer. It is because God had made things TOO complicated and too DOUBTFUL that people like me exists. False. If everything has been clearly seen and clearly understood, then we would not be having this debate about His existence. Because things are UNCLEAR and nothing of such miracles has been truly seen that there are non-believers. False, there are those who are raised without ever knowing God. Children in poorer countries who lived only knowing how to find food and water, children who grew into men and only know of their own gods DO NOT know of YOUR God at all. People like me know about God, but we do not 'know' Him. Do not assume that we do because we've never met Him, we've never felt Him...etc.Fools we may be, we are only mortals after all. To say that Christians are not foolish is to say that Christians are smarter than non-believers, and that's PRIDE. Isn't that a SIN? It's kind of 'foolish' to say that with so much pride. "The truth of God" is an opinion. There is no truth in religion. Your truth might not correspond with a Jew or Muslim's truth. It's only that I am neither Jew nor Muslim that I cannot argue with you... I think I will do a poor job in their behalf, so I can only defend them as best I could. I should be offended by these claims, but I'm not, I'm only quite amused. God has made it plain, in everything, God is all around us, you just have to elvaluate your perspective. If you dont want to think He's here, then of course you're not going to see Him. As for the people in other countries, God wasnt speaking of that at all, because there are going to be people who can honestly stand before God and say that they didnt know. In that scripture that you were quoting the entire time, It was Paul speaking throughout the entire scripture about people that hear the word of God yet ignore it. QUOTE Okay, this is where things gets heated. So you're saying that you're a better Christian? I doubt that. People in the past were very devoted to the faith, so much, that they were wiling to die for it. Just because YOU serve God in a different way than them DOES NOT mean that they were not true followers of Christ. You're too prideful for your own good.The knights of the Crusades fought against what they Church claims were 'heathens'. THE CHURCH declared that heathens must be killed! They were only following orders!!! How could you say that they are nothing like you? They would do anything for God. Man that is soooo wrong of you to say that. I did not say that I am a better christian. I simply said that for that CHURCH to commit such sin, and then to right it by saying that they would be forgiven, they were corrupt. The church is much different than being just a believer. I go to church, as a believer, to learn more about Christ. But in the Bible it says that the churches have grown corrupt and greedy. Do not assume that because there is a church that claims to be Christian, I am a part of it. MANY MANY MANY people today call themselves Christians, it isnt fair to assume that because they give themselves the title, and expect to be recognized as one, that we act, or believe in the same things. I do, however, owe you an apology. I shouldnt have debated anything with you, I knew you would take these things with a hardened heart and not recieve the true love in the scriptures and whatnot. I made it a point to show you that your ways were "wrong" which in turn, was wrong of me. I know that no matter what so called facts I give you, that you will combat everything I say with some sarcastic remark. It was wrong of me to go on with this. |
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