Illegal Immigration, is there anyone pro-amnesty? Options

[*steve330*]

With the recent Kennedy-Bush alliance (polar opposites at that) for the naturalization of illegal immigrants, a lot of people have come out strongly opposed to the idea and are quite unhappy that bush just brought it back up after the idea was killed.

Is there anyone out there that thinks it should be something that happens? If yes, please explain as I'm curious to see if there is another side (other than the politicians) to this issue and I want to know what makes you see it that way or where your opinions are derived from.

Keeping in mind taxes, social security (haha as if that's going to last), unemployment, and them taking advantage of what's free in the nation (i.e. medicine/education) without putting back into the system.

[kimmytree]

^ AMEN. I know Florida's bad, but I cant imagine what Texas is like. I hate how most of them refuse to learn freaking English. And then we end up having billboards, signs, commercials, and a bunch of other crap in not English, but Spanish. Why are we cateoring to them?!

I refuse to speak a language other than English in my own country. I dont mind it when a a forigner is here on vacation and cant speak English... but there's no excuse for someone who wants to be an American to NOT speak the language.

[31miracles]

^ AMEN. I know Florida's bad, but I cant imagine what Texas is like. I hate how most of them refuse to learn freaking English. And then we end up having billboards, signs, commercials, and a bunch of other crap in not English, but Spanish. Why are we cateoring to them?!

I refuse to speak a language other than English in my own country. I dont mind it when a a forigner is here on vacation and cant speak English... but there's no excuse for someone who wants to be an American to NOT speak the language.

It's called their cultural background... If they are Mexican, they speak Spanish. Most illegal immigrants are around themselves in their ghettos, so there is not really a use to learn English since everyone speaks the language they speak, so they way the see it... Why bother to learn English?
But yes I agree that they should attempt to learn English to fit into society.

Then explain to me why they come here, find loopholes around paying taxes, get jobs where they spend half the time sitting around a f**king tree, abuse the medical system, burn the American flag, and have babies when they can't f**king afford to have them.

Also why the hell don't they work on bettering their own damn country? I know it's hard, but if the entire country set it's mind to it, they could pull it off. They're not motivated enough, too lazy, too stupid, or content with their current life. I'm not saying everyone is this way, but as a generality, I would say that.

I live in Texas, there are shitloads of Mexicans here. They're lazy. LAZY.

wow dude, you're ignorant

you make it sound like only illegal immigrants "have babies when they can't f**king afford to have them"... my ass, every race faces that problem. I bet your mother sleeps around too, ah yes Steve that is why her belly got big and she needed an abortion. I can say that about almost everything you mentioned, haha my teacher even got fired for dogding taxes. I agree that illegal immigrants abuse medical systems, dodge taxes more, but they are still in poverty, doing anything to gain money. It's human nature; lying/cheating/stealing. EVERYONE DOES IT. But I somewhat agree, this is a problem, not just for illegal immigrants, but everyone.

I would sure like to know where they "get jobs where they spend half the time sitting around a f**king tree." I want that job. You make it sound like illegal immigrants are lazy... well let me tell you this you ignorant faggot, most Chinese illegal immigrants work 7 days a week, the whole day, in Chinese resturants. Many of them have to work their asses for 20-25 years to repay debts to snakeheads (who smugle them into the US) who threaten to kill their family. Down in California, most crop picking jobs are beening taken by illegal immigrants will to work illegal for under minimum wage for long hours in the blazing sun. Compared to these people we are are "LAZY".

"Also why the hell don't they work on bettering their own damn country?" haha, you really can't see clearly, easier said than done... China for example has a terrible government. Yea, work on improving... IMPOSSIBLE. Seriously, think things out before you type.

Burning the American flag... haha I don't know why, Maybe it's because they hate America and Americans, because people like you are so f**king racist towards them.

Serious Steve? why do you have to swear so much and attack people with your language. This is the third time you did this to me. Atleast this time you didn't call me a "f**king retard". This is an online forum... chill out please. Go dye the rest of your head red, you "f**king retard".

Sorry everyone else for my offensive post, but I hate this kid.

[*steve330*]

wow dude, you're ignorant

you make it sound like only illegal immigrants "have babies when they can't f**king afford to have them"... my ass, every race faces that problem. I bet your mother sleeps around too, ah yes Steve that is why her belly got big and she needed an abortion. I can say that about almost everything you mentioned, haha my teacher even got fired for dogding taxes. I agree that illegal immigrants abuse medical systems, dodge taxes more, but they are still in poverty, doing anything to gain money. It's human nature; lying/cheating/stealing. EVERYONE DOES IT. But I somewhat agree, this is a problem, not just for illegal immigrants, but everyone.

I would sure like to know where they "get jobs where they spend half the time sitting around a f**king tree." I want that job. You make it sound like illegal immigrants are lazy... well let me tell you this you ignorant faggot, most Chinese illegal immigrants work 7 days a week, the whole day, in Chinese resturants. Many of them have to work their asses for 20-25 years to repay debts to snakeheads (who smugle them into the US) who threaten to kill their family. Down in California, most crop picking jobs are beening taken by illegal immigrants will to work illegal for under minimum wage for long hours in the blazing sun. Compared to these people we are are "LAZY".

"Also why the hell don't they work on bettering their own damn country?" haha, you really can't see clearly, easier said than done... China for example has a terrible government. Yea, work on improving... IMPOSSIBLE. Seriously, think things out before you type.

Burning the American flag... haha I don't know why, Maybe it's because they hate America and Americans, because people like you are so f**king racist towards them.

Serious Steve? why do you have to swear so much and attack people with your language. This is the third time you did this to me. Atleast this time you didn't call me a "f**king retard". This is an online forum... chill out please. Go dye the rest of your head red, you "f**king retard".

Sorry everyone else for my offensive post, but I hate this kid.

Oh I'm very chill my friend.

Also I'm not talking about the Chinese. I have respect for the Asians. They're very hard workers.

As to the being lazy, if you lived down in Texas you might see them sitting around trees all the time. I know I do.

For instance. I saw this group of Hispanics working on a site across from a site I was working at, and they were to go bury a phone line that had came out of the ground. They got out there, dug up a little ditch for it which took about 30 minutes, then they found a shady spot by a fence and took a 2 hour break. After that they buried the phone line, then sat around for another 30 minutes. Sounds kinda lazy to me.

Also I said there was always the exception, which you might have overlooked. I know not every illegal Mexican immigrant is this way, but I feel it's pretty safe to generalize this, well, in Texas at least.

As to the comment about my mother needing an abortion, way to make yourself look ignorant. You see, my mother worked her way through college and got a job before she even considered having kids. Now there's me and I have two younger brothers and we live just fine because both my parents did the smart thing and found a steady income before they had us. GG.

If they hate Americans so much why do they come over here? After all, this is America.

I know all the cussing was probably unnecessary, so I apologize for that as in hindsight I do agree that it made my post a little bit trashy, I was just in the heat of the moment, you should understand that :)

I didn't call you a f**king retard this time because I am interested to hear your point of view. I do apologize for typing irrationally on an online forum. Continue please :)