Don't Ask, Don't Tell, Homosexuals in the Military Options

[Simba]

Openly gay people are banned from the military. However, you can be "in the closet" and still serve, as long as you don't reveal your sexual orientation. The "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy is often mentioned in these sort of debates.

If a soldier's homosexuality does happen to be revealed, however, they are to immediately be discharged.

There have been some unfair discharges, however. In one case, one homosexual soldier was harassed with e-mails, and eventually, this anonymous person e-mailed the whole battalion, warning them that there was a homosexual soldier among them. His homosexuality was eventually revealed, and was immediately discharged. His roll in the military was an Arabic translator, which are extremely helpful to have, and not very easy to find.

People supporting the discharging of homosexuals testify that they cannot allow such immoral behaviour within the military. They also say that it is detrimental to the military to have such "unique" individuals (where the goal is to have cohesive groups of soldiers that are preferably as closely alike as possible).

Discuss, please.

[*ersatz*]

^ Sure, but don't you think they know that already? If they choose to let people know they're gay (:o being openly gay does not mean you're extremely flamboyant!), then it's really their choice to make. And, shouldn't people be trying to help STOP the violence by encouraging openness and honesty about it and punishing those who are violent?

[illriginal]

^ Sure, but don't you think they know that already? If they choose to let people know they're gay (:o being openly gay does not mean you're extremely flamboyant!), then it's really their choice to make. And, shouldn't people be trying to help STOP the violence by encouraging openness and honesty about it and punishing those who are violent?

lol you're talkin bout the military. where it's common that men take steroids, have roid rage, who are feining for female ass, and have to deal with a higher ranked person chewing their ass out almost everyday. Do you know how much testosterone is just waitin to explode on any victim? Men are men... most heterosexual men, who claim to be the almighty alpha male either dislike homosexuality or just doesn't care about them.

Have you ever watched a boot camp video? They're turned into human killing machines lol
What you're askin from humanity, is like askin a lion to be nice and respectful to his prey and to accept them as living beings. Or asking a KKK member to adopt several kids from different religions and ethnic roots... it's just not gonna happen. It sucks and all but it's just not gonna happen, at least not in our life time.

[*ersatz*]

lol you're talkin bout the military. where it's common that men take steroids, have roid rage, who are feining for female ass, and have to deal with a higher ranked person chewing their ass out almost everyday. Do you know how much testosterone is just waitin to explode on any victim? Men are men... most heterosexual men, who claim to be the almighty alpha male either dislike homosexuality or just doesn't care about them.

Have you ever watched a boot camp video? They're turned into human killing machines lol
What you're askin from humanity, is like askin a lion to be nice and respectful to his prey and to accept them as living beings. Or asking a KKK member to adopt several kids from different religions and ethnic roots... it's just not gonna happen. It sucks and all but it's just not gonna happen, at least not in our life time.

That's...exactly my point. If we punish such behavior instead of encouraging it, isn't it less likely to happen? Don't we want a decrease in violence against our fellow innocent human beings?

[illriginal]

That's...exactly my point. If we punish such behavior instead of encouraging it, isn't it less likely to happen? Don't we want a decrease in violence against our fellow innocent human beings?

If we punished them because some heterosexual(s) beat down or killed a homosexual in the military, a lot of the military would be gone. I think it's just easier on the military if they told homosexuals to keep their sexuality out of the military.

They do the same about religion as well, no one wants to hear about your religion in the military, especially when it's a melting pot of atheist, and many other religions even satanic ones. So it's not a thing against homosexuals it's a thing of protection...

Yeah it wouldn't be so bad if the military simply said, look, homosexuality is allowed, deal with it, anyone who touches them will be dealt severely. But either way, I think people will still break the rules and attack homosexuals. I'm just sayin from my friends tales, it seems like homosexuality is frowned upon.

In my opinion of homosexuals, they don't bother me non... but I'd prefer for them to keep it to themselves, don't make it flamboyantly obvious.