anti- religion, but not anti- faith Options

[deplorable]

i am strongly against religion - it has currupted beliefs.

throughout the years, it is known religious leaders have altered the bible and other religious texts to suit their own need and to insure power over the people; who is to know what is true and what is absolutely fiction

but i am not anti-faith, for my faith in god is strong.

[xKatt]

Whoa, totally random; Fae, do you remember debating with me ages ago about death penalty? I was like .. uninspiredfae sounds so familiar.

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(I used to be AkaRyuX and then Paradox of Life, always been Katt though)

Oh yeah and @Tamacracker: You need to chill. I'm not slamming the Bible, if you were even directing that at me...

[illriginal]

Oh yeah and @Tamacracker: You need to chill. I'm not slamming the Bible, if you were even directing that at me...

I'm not saying any names, I'm saying in general. Not just in this thread, but in a few threads. I wonder how Jews would feel if you guys slammed their holy book. I bet you wouldn't... I bet you wouldn't want to be called Anti-Semitic. Yet some people would have the nerve to be racist against Arabs/Muslims and slam their holy book, if they had an idea, that's Anti-Semitic as well. Anti-Semitic doesn't only pertain to Jews/Israelis.

I respect religion, but I don't have to accept it.

That's fine you respect religion, and people should. But they don't have to. Nor do they have to be religious. To be honest, I don't care if anyone is religious or not. If you're gonna disrespect any aspect of religion, whether it be Jesus, Moses, Buddha, God, the holy books, any relics etc... you're gonna provoke bodily injuries.

You can debate with me, and give me your opinion of what the problem is with religion or the idea of creationism, but don't automatically discredit it, nor belittle it, nor disrespect it. Because the fact is, you don't know for sure.

You can't use a holy book and try to use it in a literal sense. Because from my understanding, not only has the Bible (for example) been re-translated over 100 times in just English alone, but the English has changed as well. On top of that, when English started to become the norm that's when Latin was dying off (at least from my understanding of the history of languages) And Latin was becoming harder to translate. Then you have Ancient English, Old English, and Modern English.

The Bible wasn't even written during the time of Jesus from my understanding as well, but that's still debatable. There's no proof other than from what the Bible has claimed that Jesus in fact was able to write and read. Everything you read in the bible was actually kept in memory, and told by word of mouth. Until finally someone with writing skills wrote word for word (which is impossible) what Jesus said and did.

So even THAT is a controversy.

This was the same with Muhammad, except Muhammad openly admitted and it is known in the Qur'an that he was illiterate. And that he depended on his followers to transcribe word for word what God revealed to him. And every event that they came across. So the Qur'an was authentic in its entirety.

But... Like I said, you don't have to be religious. Nor respect it, you should, but don't have to.
Heck I don't care what any human does with their lives. It's their lives, their souls, not mine
Just don't disrespect my honor, my belief/religion, and definitely not God. Or I'll just be a total dick. Not a little forgiving angel, screw that ideology.

[kimmytree]

I'm not saying any names, I'm saying in general. Not just in this thread, but in a few threads. I wonder how Jews would feel if you guys slammed their holy book. I bet you wouldn't... I bet you wouldn't want to be called Anti-Semitic. Yet some people would have the nerve to be racist against Arabs/Muslims and slam their holy book, if they had an idea, that's Anti-Semitic as well. Anti-Semitic doesn't only pertain to Jews/Israelis.

How is "slamming: the Jew's holy book any different than slamming any other religions? I dont get it. And I'm part Jewish.

The Bible wasn't even written during the time of Jesus from my understanding as well, but that's still debatable. There's no proof other than from what the Bible has claimed that Jesus in fact was able to write and read. Everything you read in the bible was actually kept in memory, and told by word of mouth. Until finally someone with writing skills wrote word for word (which is impossible) what Jesus said and did.

Thats true, from what I remember... the first book written was Matthew, and it was written hundreds of years after Jesus. And I think ALL of the books following it were influenced by it (or the first few books of the New Testament).

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How is "slamming: the Jew's holy book any different than slamming any other religions? I dont get it. And I'm part Jewish.

Because I realize in American society, anyone who slanders the Jews, their religion, or their Holy Book(s) get slammed to death by the rest of the world because of "Antisemitism" But then like the typical hypocrites that America is, they use their freedom of speech to slander Islam and Christianity.

If you want to get technical all those of Abraham are Semitic. The origins of their religion are of Arabic. Anti Arabic = Anti-Semitic. Unless I'm mistaken... but I'm pretty sure I'm not :)

Why do you think there isn't a thread in this forum slamming the Torah, Talmud (specially the Talmud), nor the Kabbalah?