Log In · Register

 

Debate Rules

Here are the general forum rules that you must follow before you start any debate topics. Please make sure you've read and followed all directions.

Debate.

Why The Iraqi war will be remembered as a brilliant strategical decision., A mental exercise.
sadolakced acid
post Jun 26 2007, 09:57 PM
Post #1


dripping destruction
*******

Group: Staff Alumni
Posts: 7,282
Joined: Jun 2004
Member No: 21,929



Of late it has become popular, almost fashionable, to criticize the Iraqi war. However; facts are facts, and if you look at the facts of the Iraqi war do point to the fact that it is a brilliant strategical decision, if only slightly unpopular.

So, let us look at the facts.

1. Saddam was both developing WMDs as well as storing WMDs from before the first gulf war. The United States cannot allow any of the axis of evil to aquire WMDs, and it is in our strategic interests to make a show of force and stop Saddam's defiance of UN regulations. By making an example out of Saddam, we show enemies of America that we mean business and there are consequences for defying the law.

2. Wars stimulate the economy. They mobilize the defense industry that employs millions of Americas. This is an industry that has resisted outsourcing, and injects funds into the economy. While the economy appears to be doing badly, it is a result of Clinton's policies, and the war has actually significantly lessened the severity of the recession.

3. Islam is now fractured. The sunni and shia sects are now warring, and countries now contain many different groups each vying for power. In Iran, many students inspired by the democracy in Iraq campaign for democracy.

4. The country has been unified. The war has brought Americans together. We are all unified in the war on terror, and petty issues like gay marriage don't matter much anymore. Americans now enjoy a level of security where terrorism isn't their greatest fear anymore.
 
 
Start new topic
Replies
illriginal
post Jun 28 2007, 06:17 PM
Post #2


Senior Member
*******

Group: Official Member
Posts: 6,349
Joined: Aug 2006
Member No: 455,274



QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 26 2007, 10:57 PM) *
Of late it has become popular, almost fashionable, to criticize the Iraqi war. However; facts are facts, and if you look at the facts of the Iraqi war do point to the fact that it is a brilliant strategical decision, if only slightly unpopular.

So, let us look at the facts.

1. Saddam was both developing WMDs as well as storing WMDs from before the first gulf war. The United States cannot allow any of the axis of evil to aquire WMDs, and it is in our strategic interests to make a show of force and stop Saddam's defiance of UN regulations. By making an example out of Saddam, we show enemies of America that we mean business and there are consequences for defying the law.

2. Wars stimulate the economy. They mobilize the defense industry that employs millions of Americas. This is an industry that has resisted outsourcing, and injects funds into the economy. While the economy appears to be doing badly, it is a result of Clinton's policies, and the war has actually significantly lessened the severity of the recession.

3. Islam is now fractured. The sunni and shia sects are now warring, and countries now contain many different groups each vying for power. In Iran, many students inspired by the democracy in Iraq campaign for democracy.

4. The country has been unified. The war has brought Americans together. We are all unified in the war on terror, and petty issues like gay marriage don't matter much anymore. Americans now enjoy a level of security where terrorism isn't their greatest fear anymore.



1. Please source the idea that Suddam was developing WMD. The fact is, we sold them those WMD and Bush used those old WMD as a reason to go into Iraq and forget all about Bin Laden. I forgot to mention that Bin Laden was a CIA Tactician.

2. Can you show me proof that this war in fact overall boosted the economy for all classes in American? The only people getting rich here are the politicians and the people who invest money in stocks... definitely not the workers.

3. Islam isn't fractured, if you knew your history about Islam, both "sects" have always disliked each other, because of differences in their view of Islam.
What students are inspired by the imperialism? I mean Democracy? Anyone with half a brain would realize what exactly is going on in the Middle East. If you want to call Imperialism Democracy, that's fine... just make it clear that our democracy doesn't work for all nations. I'm sure you've heard/read, "what works for you, may not work for me".

4. The U.S. has been unified?! LOL Are you kidding? What through racism/hatred? Ok you're right there... but politically and patriotically speaking, I call bullshit... x10000000. There is no terror, there never was any foreign terror against the U.S. The War On Terror is as laughable as The War On Drugs. It's all a facade... it's all a false sense of security. Like I said anyone with half of a brain would realize this.

Gay marriage is still some-what serious, thus is why many states are against it to begin with. But who cares about that anyways? It's their souls, right?

I highly advise you to do some of your own research, learn where all these politicians come from, all the government officials, what "Home Land Security" has been up to. Hell Home Land Security is so pathetic and so easy to figure out it's just sickening that anyone could honestly believe that it does anything other than infringe upon our freedoms/privacy.

The director (I believe is his position) of Home Land Security is so crooked that he put 3 border patrols in federal prison for God sakes just because they did their jobs. Because the little card that the mexican drug dealer had (which was given to him by the director of home land security) which would basically give him a free pass to go in and back out of the U.S. as he freely desires, whenever he wantet, didn't fly with the border patrols... especially when the Mexican drug dealer had a multitude of pounds of marijuana in his truck.


Poor little girly, your false sense of security, the one you claim is so great that we don't have nothing to worry about is gonna give you one hell of a brutal awakening.
 

Posts in this topic
sadolakced acid   Why The Iraqi war will be remembered as a brilliant strategical decision.   Jun 26 2007, 09:57 PM
kryogenix   Clever girl. I will watch this topic.   Jun 26 2007, 10:09 PM
karmakiller   I don't usually like replying in war related t...   Jun 26 2007, 10:15 PM
anilfour7   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 26 2007, 09:5...   Jun 26 2007, 10:29 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(anilfour7 @ Jun 26 2007, 11:29 PM) ...   Jun 27 2007, 05:00 PM
anilfour7   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 27 2007, 05:00 PM) ...   Jun 27 2007, 08:12 PM
steve330   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 26 2007, 09:5...   Jun 27 2007, 09:54 AM
The Markster   I am total noob at this war stuff, but looking at ...   Jun 27 2007, 04:33 PM
karmakiller   QUOTE(The Markster @ Jun 27 2007, 04:33 P...   Jun 27 2007, 05:28 PM
fathomlessdame   But why are our troops still there?   Jun 27 2007, 04:40 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 26 2007, 10:5...   Jun 27 2007, 04:55 PM
kimmytree   ^ But Haliburton was obviously one of the largest ...   Jun 27 2007, 08:24 PM
xKatt   QUOTE4. The country has been unified. The war has ...   Jun 27 2007, 10:55 PM
kryogenix   Ahahahaha this thread delivers.   Jun 27 2007, 11:21 PM
MyMichelle   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 27 2007, 11:21 PM) ...   Jul 4 2007, 12:47 AM
MyMichelle   I thought this was a satire. Forgive me if I was w...   Jun 27 2007, 11:25 PM
sadolakced acid   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 27 2007, 08:24 PM) ...   Jun 28 2007, 02:46 AM
kimmytree   ^ What the Hell? So if a person doesnt support the...   Jun 28 2007, 07:57 AM
sadolakced acid   And this is how it works. We're at war. It...   Jun 28 2007, 01:47 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 28 2007, 02:4...   Jun 28 2007, 05:43 PM
steve330   Apparently you're sick if you have a strong po...   Jun 28 2007, 03:06 PM
sadolakced acid   Look, ordinarily, criticism is all good. But we...   Jun 28 2007, 04:47 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 28 2007, 05:4...   Jun 28 2007, 06:19 PM
medic   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jun 28 2007, 06:19 PM...   Jun 28 2007, 06:59 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(medic @ Jun 28 2007, 07:59 PM) May ...   Jun 28 2007, 08:02 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jun 28 2007, 09:02 PM...   Jun 28 2007, 09:29 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 28 2007, 10:29 PM) ...   Jun 28 2007, 11:12 PM
karmakiller   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jun 28 2007, 11:12 PM...   Jul 4 2007, 11:54 AM
karmakiller   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jun 28 2007, 08:02 PM...   Jun 28 2007, 09:42 PM
steve330   ^I think I agree with what you're saying lol.....   Jun 28 2007, 05:01 PM
kimmytree   ^ Eeek sorry for the double post. I forgot that it...   Jun 28 2007, 05:50 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 26 2007, 10:5...   Jun 28 2007, 06:17 PM
kimmytree   ^ LOL I'm starting to think he's being sar...   Jun 28 2007, 06:36 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 28 2007, 07:36 PM) ...   Jun 28 2007, 06:41 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jun 28 2007, 07:41 PM...   Jun 28 2007, 07:19 PM
xKatt   After reading the past few posts, I've come to...   Jun 28 2007, 07:45 PM
Tamacracker   QUOTE(xKatt @ Jun 28 2007, 08:45 PM) Afte...   Jun 28 2007, 08:07 PM
ersatz   What's funnier than you guys thinking he was s...   Jul 10 2007, 04:43 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members: