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Jun 11 2004, 11:55 PM
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So yeah...the debate continues.. have fun.
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Jun 13 2004, 10:35 AM
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[QUOTE]So things that you speak from the heart comes from a Book. I suppose that's understandable...[/QUOTE]
alrite u want us to give u OUR knowledge, but we first must learn...we learn from the Bible...we believe it and it is a part of us. its part of our heart [QUOTE]Sure, learning and applying knowledge is one thing, but I thought it's funny how all most Christians do is give quotes from the 'Big Book' to answer everyone's questions. It's like memorizing lines from a play or copying someone word for word, nothing to be impressed about because any child can do just that. It's almost like, plagiarism. [QUOTE] plagiarism?! hahahahahahaha i dont think they mind...God ask us too share and teach His Word(Much of His Word can be found in the Bible) He doesn't mind [/QUOTE]You're confusing me yet again. Are you saying that Man is born evil? [QUOTE] born sinners [QUOTE]It's not our place to judge those things, but it is in our place to do something about it instead of crying to God. As you can see, no matter how much they (Jews) were suffering, God seemed to have closed His eyes to it all. Was it because of who they are? Are Jews, Muslims, and people of other religions any less of a human than Christians?[/QUOTE] yes, only God should judge, other's judgements don't matter anyway...crying to God? we place everything in His hands...He tells us not to worry in anything, but to bring everything to Him in prayer...hum Jesus was a Jew...God didnt close His eyes on them...He sent His only Son to die for them(wow im sure thats closing His eyes....i mean He sent His Son to DIE...just so we can screw up all the time and still be with Him...yeah sure seems like He was turning away from them...uh no! less human..no...Jesus was a Jew as i said before b/c Christian means follower of Christ and b/c God had not yet sent Jesus there were no Christians. Jesus was part of God, as He still is...the people had been promised a Savior....they just didnt know the Savior would come as form of a human and be crucified....Islam teaches many of the same principles of Christianity. its is a lot like Judiusm...u c Jews believe in the Old Testament(the Torah)...when Jesus came the New Testament came into place, about His earthly life here...Jews dont believe that He is God's Son so they dont believe the Savior has come yet, which is why they still do things like the sacrament once a year for all their sins...in Christianity we have the Ultimant Sacrament, Jesus Christ...we dunt have to do that once a year, b/c Jesus has done it forever....the Jews, like Muslims believe He is a great prophet, but not the Son of God...which brings me back to the point i brought up a while back...they say that prophets are to do what God tells them. surely prophets would not lie abt what God has told them to say or who they are. it is SCIENTIFICALLY proven that a man named Jesus was crucifed for claiming He was the Son of God....so the Jews are saying that He lied, which thye say prophets can lie. CONTRADICTION NUMBER ONE!! theey also (esp. Muslims) believe in mnay prophets....many of which wrote the Bible...(James, John, etc.) scientist have found the letters and notes of these prophets, who were sent to tell of God's word BY GOD...the Bible is merly their teachings and notes in a written, published form...however the Jews dont believe in the New Testament...so they are saying that these prophets are lieing, scientist have FOUND the letters that are now in Bibles....Muslims dont believe in the Bible, so they are saying that those prophets are lieing abt the things in there...but wait, they also say prophets cant lie...CONTRADICTION NUMBER 2!! less human, no! wrong? yes! i gtg so sume1 else can answer the rest |
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CEP god Jun 11 2004, 11:55 PM
abberdabber this goes out to FAE.. so here ya go.
**Is God al... Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM)thi... Jun 12 2004, 12:09 AM
iheartsimba QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM)thi... Jun 12 2004, 12:19 AM
abberdabber LoL .. Well you guys obviously didnt read back to ... Jun 12 2004, 12:22 AM
CEP QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 10:22 PM)LoL... Jun 12 2004, 01:30 AM
abberdabber * this will be the last entry submitted *
fae wa... Jun 12 2004, 01:52 AM
synkro just wondering.. have any of you ever read the boo... Jun 12 2004, 08:05 AM
princess2113 QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 12 2004, 8:05 AM)just wond... Jun 12 2004, 09:00 AM
synkro QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 12 2004, 9:00 AM)not... Jun 12 2004, 09:17 AM
princess2113 QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 12 2004, 9:17 AM)what... Jun 12 2004, 10:28 AM
CEP QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 12 2004, 6:05 AM)just wond... Jun 12 2004, 10:40 AM
IIO__oII u guys should read MERE CHRISTIANITY..
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PS...ch... Jun 12 2004, 11:53 AM
GinaDaQueen I haven't really read the other topic but from... Jun 12 2004, 02:21 PM
easilyxamusedx nicely said. Jun 12 2004, 02:29 PM
DisneyPrincessKate I honestly don't see how you can't believe... Jun 12 2004, 02:31 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(GinaDaQueen @ Jun 12 2004, 2:21 PM)I ha... Jun 12 2004, 03:17 PM
synkro it wasn't a question whether the book was true... Jun 12 2004, 06:27 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM)gos... Jun 12 2004, 07:16 PM
machinoman I just saw Saved! and it was great.
"Jes... Jun 13 2004, 02:56 AM
abberdabber [QUOTE=uninspiredfae,Jun 12 2004, 7:16 PM]
Just ... Jun 13 2004, 03:47 AM
Spirited Away
So things that you speak from the heart comes fro... Jun 13 2004, 10:15 AM
sadolakced acid i have a question for all you christians out there... Jun 13 2004, 02:14 PM
abberdabber alright i jacked it up again, i answered at two di... Jun 13 2004, 03:13 PM
abberdabber .QUOTEYou mean God will right the wrongs done to C... Jun 13 2004, 04:13 PM
IIO__oII YAY fresh and new!
no more scrolling thru 50+ ... Jun 13 2004, 04:39 PM
abberdabber yea i know, its a whole lot better than before... Jun 13 2004, 05:23 PM
princess2113 wait to answer that other persons ??....Creation d... Jun 13 2004, 08:40 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 13 2004, 10:35 AM)al... Jun 13 2004, 09:05 PM
Spirited Away First of all, sorry for double posting.
That... Jun 13 2004, 09:47 PM
princess2113 second-hand knowledge????
u trust ur history book... Jun 13 2004, 10:01 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 13 2004, 10:01 PM)u ... Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM
abberdabber Fae, are you sure thats the reason you continue to... Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM)Fae... Jun 13 2004, 10:14 PM
DisneyPrincessKate You guys are so nit-picky and technical. The impo... Jun 13 2004, 10:42 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 13 2004, 10:42... Jun 13 2004, 10:49 PM
princess2113 QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM)W... Jun 13 2004, 10:59 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 13 2004, 10:59 PM)... Jun 13 2004, 11:05 PM
abberdabber QUOTEHow have you suffered persecution for your be... Jun 13 2004, 11:06 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 13 2004, 11:06 PM)Fae... Jun 13 2004, 11:19 PM
sadolakced acid sure, christians shouldn't be persecuted for w... Jun 13 2004, 11:46 PM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 13 2004, 11:46 PM... Jun 14 2004, 12:02 AM
abberdabber Fae, ive been reading through the last few posts o... Jun 14 2004, 02:25 AM
synkro i find it interesting that when we say "god... Jun 14 2004, 04:54 AM
DisneyPrincessKate QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 13 2004, 11:49 PM)W... Jun 14 2004, 09:43 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 14 2004, 2:25 AM)Fae,... Jun 14 2004, 10:25 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 14 2004, 4:54 AM)i find it... Jun 14 2004, 10:34 AM
synkro QUOTEBut since everyone has been saying that God w... Jun 14 2004, 10:42 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 14 2004, 10:42 AM)you may ... Jun 14 2004, 10:54 AM
synkro QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 14 2004, 10:54 AM)I... Jun 14 2004, 10:58 AM
IIO__oII QUOTEWhy believe in something I cannot see, when I... Jun 14 2004, 04:37 PM
ryfitaDF i'm cool with anyone, believer or not. Jun 14 2004, 05:54 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 13 2004, 11:05 PM)G... Jun 14 2004, 07:20 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 14 2004, 10:25 AM)H... Jun 14 2004, 07:34 PM
IIO__oII QUOTEI know many don't like quotings of the Bi... Jun 14 2004, 08:59 PM
ryfitaDF what about all the revisions of the bible? you may... Jun 14 2004, 09:18 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 14 2004, 9:18 PM)what ab... Jun 15 2004, 06:40 AM
Retrogressive i used to be a very strong christian, i even had a... Jun 16 2004, 04:40 PM
Yemmerz QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 14 2004, 10:18 PM)what a... Jun 16 2004, 04:46 PM
JlIaTMK im christian and i personally dont believe so much... Jun 16 2004, 08:55 PM
shawty_redd QUOTE(Yemmerz @ Jun 16 2004, 3:46 PM)It does,... Jun 16 2004, 10:47 PM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(shawty_redd @ Jun 16 2004, 10:47 PM)so ... Jun 17 2004, 02:01 AM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 17 2004, 2:01 AM)yes. i ... Jun 17 2004, 09:14 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Jun 17 2004, 9:14 AM... Jun 17 2004, 09:39 AM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 9:39 AM)I ... Jun 17 2004, 10:46 AM
Spirited Away Here you go (<--about midrash). Jun 17 2004, 10:51 AM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 10:51 AM)H... Jun 17 2004, 10:56 AM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(loseronaisle5 @ Jun 16 2004, 4:40 PM)bu... Jun 17 2004, 02:12 PM
IIO__oII QUOTEf i believed in god i wouldn't think he h... Jun 17 2004, 03:38 PM
onenonly101 QUOTEi don't want to believe in a god who does... Jun 18 2004, 03:59 PM
Gypsy Eyes Personally, I dont believe in god. I honestly thin... Jun 18 2004, 05:56 PM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 18 2004, 5:56 PM)Perso... Jun 19 2004, 12:31 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 18 2004, 5:56 PM)Perso... Jun 19 2004, 07:43 AM
ryfitaDF QUOTE-Evolution is as much as a theory as the stor... Jun 19 2004, 11:05 AM
onenonly101 QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 18 2004, 5:56 PM)Perso... Jun 19 2004, 11:49 AM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 19 2004, 11:49 AM)The... Jun 19 2004, 12:56 PM
onenonly101 but didn't you say you believe in your self? t... Jun 19 2004, 04:04 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 19 2004, 11:49 AM)Fir... Jun 19 2004, 04:20 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 19 2004, 12:56 PM)then w... Jun 19 2004, 09:30 PM
Lena QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 19 2004, 4:04 PM)but ... Jun 19 2004, 10:06 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(Lena @ Jun 19 2004, 10:06 PM)CrimsonArc... Jun 19 2004, 11:01 PM
Spirited Away QUOTEThen I ask you...who created the so called cr... Jun 20 2004, 01:36 AM
Gypsy Eyes QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Jun 19 2004, 9:30 PM... Jun 20 2004, 01:49 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 20 2004, 1:49 PM)Lamb ... Jun 20 2004, 03:28 PM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Jun 20 2004, 3:28 PM... Jun 20 2004, 03:53 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 20 2004, 3:53 PM)why not... Jun 20 2004, 04:00 PM
onenonly101 QUOTEI've never heard of the Ten Commandments ... Jun 21 2004, 11:47 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 21 2004, 11:47 AM)You... Jun 21 2004, 12:06 PM
onenonly101 QUOTESo you're saying that before the Ten Comm... Jun 21 2004, 12:35 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 21 2004, 12:35 PM)I d... Jun 21 2004, 12:44 PM
IIO__oII QUOTEIf trusting God makes my life easier were tru... Jun 21 2004, 03:55 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Jun 21 2004, 3:55 PM)maybe i... Jun 21 2004, 04:35 PM
IIO__oII QUOTEi don't get you.
first you say that Chri... Jun 21 2004, 05:42 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Jun 21 2004, 5:42 PM)err.. w... Jun 21 2004, 05:47 PM
ComradeRed How will you spend eternity? Smoking or non-smokin... Jun 21 2004, 08:15 PM
ryfitaDF raise your fist in the air. DRUG FREE! Jun 22 2004, 01:01 AM
stryker76 Yeah i have to agree the christains do suffer more... Jun 22 2004, 06:10 AM
onenonly101 i don't know if this is what princess and iio_... Jun 22 2004, 10:13 AM
Beyond Elite oh my. People are crazy about this topic huh? Jun 22 2004, 10:44 AM![]() ![]() |