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Jun 6 2007, 07:13 PM
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Openly gay people are banned from the military. However, you can be "in the closet" and still serve, as long as you don't reveal your sexual orientation. The "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy is often mentioned in these sort of debates.
If a soldier's homosexuality does happen to be revealed, however, they are to immediately be discharged. There have been some unfair discharges, however. In one case, one homosexual soldier was harassed with e-mails, and eventually, this anonymous person e-mailed the whole battalion, warning them that there was a homosexual soldier among them. His homosexuality was eventually revealed, and was immediately discharged. His roll in the military was an Arabic translator, which are extremely helpful to have, and not very easy to find. People supporting the discharging of homosexuals testify that they cannot allow such immoral behaviour within the military. They also say that it is detrimental to the military to have such "unique" individuals (where the goal is to have cohesive groups of soldiers that are preferably as closely alike as possible). Discuss, please. |
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Jun 16 2007, 09:36 PM
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Some people are not comfortable changing, showering, sleeping, and living with homosexuals. If a person is openly gay, not only would he make others uncomfortable, but he would call for unwanted attention to himself. What good would that do for anyone? Homosexuality itself should not be an issue in the military, but the discussion of it or confession of it should be controlled. Its the military, not your mother's house. Life is not fair, and the military isn't there to make you feel good about yourself. If a soldier feels proud enough to absolutely have to display his sexuality to other soldiers despite the obvious fact that it makes some uncomfortable, he should be responsible for its circumstances. If you want to serve your country, serve it. Confessing yourself has nothing to do with serving, and if it lowers productivity, it should be avoided for the sake of serving peacefully. But do women sleep, shower, and so on with men? They have their own quarters. Gay's don't, they stay with the rest of the men at all times. Besides, its not the homosexual's who'd have the problems, it would be the straight men who'd feel uncomfortable soaping their ass around someone who could be potentially attracted to them. While I disagree with the fact that homosexuals that are revealed are instantly discharged, I think that having a policy of keeping your sexuality, whether it be homo or hetero, is better for all. Agreed and agreed.
Allowing homosexuals to serve does not, in any way, mean that there is "immoral behavior" either. It's the straight man's choice to have butt-sex with a gay man if it happens. |
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Arjuna Capulong Don't Ask, Don't Tell Jun 6 2007, 07:13 PM
kimmytree Not being able to be gay in the military is total ... Jun 6 2007, 07:53 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 6 2007, 08:53 PM) N... Jun 6 2007, 07:54 PM
XRosesXAreXBlackXX QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 6 2007, 08:53 PM) N... Jun 22 2007, 08:21 AM
xKatt Immoral? Kicking people out of the military for wh... Jul 5 2007, 10:46 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(xKatt @ Jul 5 2007, 11:46 PM) If yo... Jul 6 2007, 05:44 AM
xKatt QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 6 2007, 05:44 AM)... Jul 6 2007, 03:22 PM
kimmytree It's not like straight soilders would be force... Jun 6 2007, 08:02 PM
oh snaap. QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Jun 6 2007, 07:13... Jun 6 2007, 08:06 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(oh snaap. @ Jun 6 2007, 09:06 PM) A... Jun 6 2007, 08:24 PM
kimmytree I think Clinton came up with the policy during his... Jun 6 2007, 09:01 PM
steve330 I think it's stupid too. However, you have to... Jun 6 2007, 09:42 PM
hazardous that's bull. if someone is willing to sacrafic... Jun 7 2007, 01:32 PM
karmakiller I don't think it should matter if they are or ... Jun 7 2007, 01:43 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(karmakiller @ Jun 7 2007, 02:43 PM)... Jun 7 2007, 01:48 PM
laxumaster8 yea, the whole issue is weird...everyone should be... Jun 7 2007, 05:52 PM
kayali Thats gay... (no pun intended).
Why should their ... Jun 8 2007, 07:53 PM
magicfann gay people are proven to be less effective fighter... Jun 9 2007, 02:03 PM
Frankie QUOTE(magicfann @ Jun 9 2007, 02:03 PM) g... Jul 18 2007, 12:53 PM

Tamacracker QUOTE(Frankie @ Jul 18 2007, 01:53 PM) th... Jul 18 2007, 09:58 PM
xKatt QUOTE(magicfann @ Jun 9 2007, 02:03 PM) g... Jul 18 2007, 05:19 PM
kimmytree ^ Mind backing that statement up? lol. Jun 9 2007, 07:40 PM
inspiration http://threepanelsoul.com/view.php?date=2007-05-30... Jun 9 2007, 09:35 PM
ermfermoo This is not a bible matter, nor an issue of morali... Jun 9 2007, 10:54 PM
hazardous QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Jun 9 2007, 11:54 PM) T... Jun 19 2007, 08:59 AM
ermfermoo QUOTE(hazardous @ Jun 19 2007, 09:59 AM) ... Jun 22 2007, 10:47 PM
XRosesXAreXBlackXX QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Jun 22 2007, 11:47 PM) ... Jun 29 2007, 02:23 PM
kitcatblac i kno this is a stupid question n i kno that peopl... Jun 9 2007, 11:04 PM
ermfermoo Oh God, no. Please, don't let this topic spira... Jun 9 2007, 11:39 PM
MyMichelle While I disagree with the fact that homosexuals th... Jun 10 2007, 01:34 PM
magicfann gay ppl suck Jun 19 2007, 04:09 PM
hazardous QUOTE(magicfann @ Jun 19 2007, 05:09 PM) ... Jun 19 2007, 04:32 PM
karmakiller ^ Think of the traditions. The military's been... Jul 2 2007, 10:31 PM
Tamacracker The don't ask, don't tell... is to save th... Jul 2 2007, 10:35 PM
ersatz ^ Sure, but don't you think they know that alr... Jul 2 2007, 10:38 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(ersatz @ Jul 2 2007, 11:38 PM) ^ Su... Jul 2 2007, 11:27 PM
ersatz QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 2 2007, 11:27 PM)... Jul 5 2007, 01:36 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(ersatz @ Jul 5 2007, 02:36 PM) That... Jul 5 2007, 08:53 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 5 2007, 09:53 PM)... Jul 8 2007, 02:26 PM
kimmytree QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jul 8 2007, 03:26 PM) Y... Jul 8 2007, 07:15 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jul 8 2007, 03:26 PM) Y... Jul 10 2007, 03:02 PM
karmakiller ^
Sad, but true. Jul 2 2007, 11:32 PM
JakeKKing QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Jun 6 2007, 08:13... Jul 4 2007, 03:09 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jul 4 2007, 04:09 PM) H... Jul 4 2007, 03:27 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jul 4 2007, 04:09 PM) T... Jul 4 2007, 04:58 PM
Flair I am not for open homesexuals in the military. Isn... Jul 6 2007, 08:52 AM
ersatz But something like this would HELP it be accepted.... Jul 6 2007, 10:55 AM
Tamacracker QUOTE(ersatz @ Jul 6 2007, 11:55 AM) But ... Jul 6 2007, 03:40 PM
Flair Ersatz, I'm not sure if it would help. Homosex... Jul 6 2007, 03:42 PM
ersatz Like I said, I don't think anyone's going ... Jul 7 2007, 12:50 AM
1angel3 I think it's silly. A Man sexual preference do... Jul 11 2007, 12:17 PM
steve330 QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 11 2007, 12:17 PM) Yo... Jul 11 2007, 02:43 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 11 2007, 03:43 PM) y... Jul 13 2007, 04:35 PM
1angel3 ^ well I disagree. Maybe I worded it the wrong way... Jul 12 2007, 09:14 PM
Sandraaa ^ Dude, you can look at someone and know that they... Jul 13 2007, 04:31 PM
1angel3 QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 13 2007, 01:31 PM) ^... Jul 13 2007, 09:02 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 13 2007, 09:02 PM) No... Jul 13 2007, 09:16 PM
1angel3 ^ Ok maybe I worded it the wrong way. What do you ... Jul 13 2007, 09:39 PM
Spirited Away Yea, crossdressers. Jul 13 2007, 09:55 PM
xKatt Yeah.. like people who care that much about their ... Jul 13 2007, 10:10 PM
1angel3 ^ why not? Jul 13 2007, 10:14 PM
xKatt QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 13 2007, 10:14 PM) ^ ... Jul 13 2007, 10:21 PM
1angel3 QUOTE(xKatt @ Jul 13 2007, 07:21 PM) We... Jul 13 2007, 10:52 PM
xKatt QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jul 13 2007, 10:52 PM) Ma... Jul 14 2007, 12:22 AM
kryogenix We should send all the gays to Iraq on street patr... Jul 13 2007, 10:37 PM
steve330 QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 13 2007, 10:37 PM) ... Jul 13 2007, 11:42 PM
Sandraaa Angel3, I agree not all feminine guys are gay but ... Jul 14 2007, 03:01 AM
Tamacracker QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 14 2007, 04:01 AM) A... Jul 14 2007, 05:00 PM
steve330 QUOTE(Tamacracker @ Jul 14 2007, 05:00 PM... Jul 14 2007, 05:01 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 14 2007, 06:01 PM) O... Jul 14 2007, 05:09 PM
steve330 *shrug* I guess it depends on what level of metro ... Jul 14 2007, 05:10 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(steve330 @ Jul 14 2007, 06:10 PM) *... Jul 14 2007, 05:12 PM
Sandraaa QUOTEShow me a feminine man that isn't bisexua... Jul 14 2007, 05:20 PM
Tamacracker QUOTE(Sandraaa @ Jul 14 2007, 06:20 PM) T... Jul 14 2007, 05:27 PM
ersatz I do my boyfriend's eyebrows so he doesn't... Jul 15 2007, 12:20 AM
Sandraaa QUOTEYeah but doing your eyebrows? And shaving hai... Jul 15 2007, 01:46 AM
tooeffingcrazy No. I want there to be a law against homosexuals. ... Jul 18 2007, 09:33 PM
DarkImpressions If someone is willing to risk their life,And leave... Jul 18 2007, 10:22 PM
xKatt QUOTEAnd half the time they probably werent coming... Jul 20 2007, 12:23 PM![]() ![]() |