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concreteangel
post Jun 6 2007, 05:41 PM
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I have a debate that is due this Friday.
The debate is about whether or not someone should get a kidney transplant or not. One side is if it is a birth defect and the other side is if they are a drinker and need a transplant. My group is on the side of the transplant for the birth defect. I've searched and searched and cant find diddly squat to help me with this situation.
So that is why I'm asking you to tell me what your views on each side.
What side would you choose and why?
 
 
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kimmytree
post Jun 9 2007, 09:53 AM
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^ But still, who's to say you're dad wont have medical problems in the future, as a result of drinking in the past? That's good that he's turned his life around, but he still could pay the price later on.

Oh and sadolakced acid is right, drinking causes liver problems... not kidney damage. But either way, just because a person has put themself in a situation doesnt mean they intentionally put themself there knowing for sure that one day they would have some type of disease because of it. [/woah major run on]

If a child needs an organ due to a birth defect but has several months to live... and an adult who smoke/drank/whatever making themself need the same organ, and only has a few weeks to live - I'd let the child wait for another organ and give it to the adult. But if both the child and the adult had the same amount of time left, then the child definitely deserves the organ. Even if they both needed one as a result of having a birth defect, the child should still come first.
 
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post Jun 9 2007, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 9 2007, 10:53 AM) *
^ But still, who's to say you're dad wont have medical problems in the future, as a result of drinking in the past? That's good that he's turned his life around, but he still could pay the price later on.

Oh and sadolakced acid is right, drinking causes liver problems... not kidney damage. But either way, just because a person has put themself in a situation doesnt mean they intentionally put themself there knowing for sure that one day they would have some type of disease because of it. [/woah major run on]

If a child needs an organ due to a birth defect but has several months to live... and an adult who smoke/drank/whatever making themself need the same organ, and only has a few weeks to live - I'd let the child wait for another organ and give it to the adult. But if both the child and the adult had the same amount of time left, then the child definitely deserves the organ. Even if they both needed one as a result of having a birth defect, the child should still come first.


which is my point. he chose to drink in the first place, which caused the addiction. he may very very have some medical problems because of it. actually, he already does. but you see, that was his choice in the first place. no one forced him, so it's his fault. that's like saying being raped is your fault if you disagree with that. i hope you don't.
you can't tell me that an adult, or teenager for that matter, doesn't know the risks of drinking, smoking, drugs, ect. when they first start it/ of course, it's peer pressure nintey-nine percent of the time, but they still have an option to say no and it's their screw-up if they don't. they knows the risks but choose their deicsion anyways. again, you just brought up another one of my points. the adult has lived longer than the child.

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Good point,don't get me wrong I respect your father for being as strong as he was.But not everyone has that will power.You can go to rehab,or somewhere else to treat your problem.There's no way that you will def. be able to stop nor have the will power to turn their lives around No matter how hard they try.An addiction is not just some small thing you can say you will put and end to and voila it happens.I agree to exactly what kimmy said.

i didn't say it was easy to have an intervention and break the addiction, did i? of course it's not easy, but it's certainly not impossible. again, they have the will-power.
 

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concreteangel   Debate for school   Jun 6 2007, 05:41 PM
hazardous   i would choose the defected patient. the drinking ...   Jun 6 2007, 05:52 PM
SayBloodyMary   Wait, so is the debate about one kidney, and who s...   Jun 6 2007, 06:50 PM
concreteangel   QUOTE(SayBloodyMary @ Jun 6 2007, 07:50 P...   Jun 6 2007, 07:14 PM
laxumaster8   well, both type of patients should get a kidney tr...   Jun 6 2007, 07:06 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Whoever needs it more immediately should have firs...   Jun 6 2007, 07:15 PM
EtherxWhisper   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Jun 6 2007, 08:15...   Jun 7 2007, 08:39 PM
kimmytree   Well, a person with a birth defect should definite...   Jun 6 2007, 07:49 PM
Autobahn   The person with the birth defect should deserve it...   Jun 6 2007, 08:52 PM
kryogenix   Just wag your finger and keep shouting "OBJEC...   Jun 7 2007, 08:48 PM
sadolakced acid   drinking kills your liver first. the kidney proba...   Jun 7 2007, 08:50 PM
kryogenix   Also, compare the other side to nazis. That one ge...   Jun 7 2007, 09:03 PM
gigiopolis   Yes, but does that mean that someone who has ...   Jun 7 2007, 09:06 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(gigiopolis @ Jun 7 2007, 10:06 PM) ...   Jun 8 2007, 08:19 PM
EtherxWhisper   QUOTE(hazardous @ Jun 8 2007, 09:19 PM) i...   Jun 9 2007, 01:33 AM
hazardous   QUOTE(EtherxWhisper @ Jun 9 2007, 02:33 A...   Jun 9 2007, 08:34 AM
EtherxWhisper   QUOTE(hazardous @ Jun 9 2007, 09:34 AM) t...   Jun 9 2007, 12:26 PM
sadolakced acid   I suppose none of you care that if the drinker nee...   Jun 9 2007, 03:33 AM
kimmytree   ^ But still, who's to say you're dad wont ...   Jun 9 2007, 09:53 AM
hazardous   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 9 2007, 10:53 AM) ^...   Jun 9 2007, 07:03 PM
EtherxWhisper   QUOTE(hazardous @ Jun 9 2007, 08:03 PM) ...   Jun 9 2007, 09:31 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(EtherxWhisper @ Jun 9 2007, 10:31 P...   Jun 9 2007, 09:40 PM
EtherxWhisper   QUOTE(hazardous @ Jun 9 2007, 10:40 PM) a...   Jun 9 2007, 10:20 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(EtherxWhisper @ Jun 9 2007, 11:20 P...   Jun 10 2007, 12:01 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(hazardous @ Jun 9 2007, 10:40 PM) a...   Jun 10 2007, 08:53 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 10 2007, 09:53 PM) ...   Jun 10 2007, 09:35 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(hazardous @ Jun 10 2007, 10:35 PM) ...   Jun 12 2007, 06:45 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 12 2007, 07:45 PM) ...   Jun 12 2007, 09:12 PM
kimmytree   ^ I get what you're saying. But when you go th...   Jun 9 2007, 07:38 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Jun 9 2007, 08:38 PM) ^...   Jun 9 2007, 08:14 PM
Fist   For the drinkers, why not allow them to have only ...   Jun 9 2007, 09:03 PM
alysaphobia   I really think you have to disregard whether or no...   Jun 11 2007, 04:38 AM


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