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Jun 11 2004, 11:55 PM
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So yeah...the debate continues.. have fun.
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Jun 12 2004, 06:27 PM
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it wasn't a question whether the book was true or false, just as the bible may have been true or false. i said "christian history", which i should have quoted in the first place, simply because the da vinci code provides a different view of history as the one provided in the bible. it may be fiction vs. fiction, but that's the point. the book was supposed to be "based on research", just as the bible was based on "true accounts" - although most of the things said in the conversations were, shall i say "exaggerated"? lol. again, the reason i brought it up is because i kept on seeing posts about jesus and divinity. the specific segment i showed talks about how jesus's "divinity" may have come into being, just as in the bible he may have performed miracles. there are people out there who actually believe in this book, just as there are people who believe in aliens & ghosts. the existence or non existence of god is just one of those things. i simply wanted a reaction.
i have not read cracking da vinci's code, but i've read a few chapters from the da vinci hoax, which my friend owns haha. i have not finished it, so my thoughts on it might still be blurred. anyway, here is a passage (specifically in response to the excerpt from the da vinci code: The Council of Nicaea did not define that Jesus, the Son of God, was divine (since that was accepted by all Christians) but addressed the issue of the exact relationship between the Son and the Father: Are they equal? One in substance? Two Persons? The Council specifically addressed and condemned the popular heresy of that time, called Arianism, which insisted that the Son was a lesser god, created by the Father at some point in time and not eternally existent. ...basically leading to the holy trinity, in which the son, the father, and the holy spirit are one god. it established one god. i'm just trying to make others see it from a different standpoint: how do you just 'accept' christ's divinity without question? i guess the question i should have asked in the first place is "what made you believe in god" rather than "why do you believe in god". yes, it's two different questions. i'm looking for how you started believing in him in the first place. if you were raised in a different city/country by different parents, would it have affected your faith? and to princess2113: i read the post, sorry for the misunderstandin' ;] |
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CEP god Jun 11 2004, 11:55 PM
abberdabber this goes out to FAE.. so here ya go.
**Is God al... Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM)thi... Jun 12 2004, 12:09 AM
iheartsimba QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM)thi... Jun 12 2004, 12:19 AM
abberdabber LoL .. Well you guys obviously didnt read back to ... Jun 12 2004, 12:22 AM
CEP QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 10:22 PM)LoL... Jun 12 2004, 01:30 AM
abberdabber * this will be the last entry submitted *
fae wa... Jun 12 2004, 01:52 AM
synkro just wondering.. have any of you ever read the boo... Jun 12 2004, 08:05 AM
princess2113 QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 12 2004, 8:05 AM)just wond... Jun 12 2004, 09:00 AM
synkro QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 12 2004, 9:00 AM)not... Jun 12 2004, 09:17 AM
princess2113 QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 12 2004, 9:17 AM)what... Jun 12 2004, 10:28 AM
CEP QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 12 2004, 6:05 AM)just wond... Jun 12 2004, 10:40 AM
IIO__oII u guys should read MERE CHRISTIANITY..
=]
PS...ch... Jun 12 2004, 11:53 AM
GinaDaQueen I haven't really read the other topic but from... Jun 12 2004, 02:21 PM
easilyxamusedx nicely said. Jun 12 2004, 02:29 PM
DisneyPrincessKate I honestly don't see how you can't believe... Jun 12 2004, 02:31 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(GinaDaQueen @ Jun 12 2004, 2:21 PM)I ha... Jun 12 2004, 03:17 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 11 2004, 11:58 PM)gos... Jun 12 2004, 07:16 PM
machinoman I just saw Saved! and it was great.
"Jes... Jun 13 2004, 02:56 AM
abberdabber [QUOTE=uninspiredfae,Jun 12 2004, 7:16 PM]
Just ... Jun 13 2004, 03:47 AM
Spirited Away
So things that you speak from the heart comes fro... Jun 13 2004, 10:15 AM
princess2113
alrite u want us to give u OUR knowledge, but we ... Jun 13 2004, 10:35 AM
sadolakced acid i have a question for all you christians out there... Jun 13 2004, 02:14 PM
abberdabber alright i jacked it up again, i answered at two di... Jun 13 2004, 03:13 PM
abberdabber .QUOTEYou mean God will right the wrongs done to C... Jun 13 2004, 04:13 PM
IIO__oII YAY fresh and new!
no more scrolling thru 50+ ... Jun 13 2004, 04:39 PM
abberdabber yea i know, its a whole lot better than before... Jun 13 2004, 05:23 PM
princess2113 wait to answer that other persons ??....Creation d... Jun 13 2004, 08:40 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 13 2004, 10:35 AM)al... Jun 13 2004, 09:05 PM
Spirited Away First of all, sorry for double posting.
That... Jun 13 2004, 09:47 PM
princess2113 second-hand knowledge????
u trust ur history book... Jun 13 2004, 10:01 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 13 2004, 10:01 PM)u ... Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM
abberdabber Fae, are you sure thats the reason you continue to... Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM)Fae... Jun 13 2004, 10:14 PM
DisneyPrincessKate You guys are so nit-picky and technical. The impo... Jun 13 2004, 10:42 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(DisneyPrincessKate @ Jun 13 2004, 10:42... Jun 13 2004, 10:49 PM
princess2113 QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 13 2004, 10:06 PM)W... Jun 13 2004, 10:59 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(princess2113 @ Jun 13 2004, 10:59 PM)... Jun 13 2004, 11:05 PM
abberdabber QUOTEHow have you suffered persecution for your be... Jun 13 2004, 11:06 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 13 2004, 11:06 PM)Fae... Jun 13 2004, 11:19 PM
sadolakced acid sure, christians shouldn't be persecuted for w... Jun 13 2004, 11:46 PM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jun 13 2004, 11:46 PM... Jun 14 2004, 12:02 AM
abberdabber Fae, ive been reading through the last few posts o... Jun 14 2004, 02:25 AM
synkro i find it interesting that when we say "god... Jun 14 2004, 04:54 AM
DisneyPrincessKate QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 13 2004, 11:49 PM)W... Jun 14 2004, 09:43 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(abberdabber @ Jun 14 2004, 2:25 AM)Fae,... Jun 14 2004, 10:25 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 14 2004, 4:54 AM)i find it... Jun 14 2004, 10:34 AM
synkro QUOTEBut since everyone has been saying that God w... Jun 14 2004, 10:42 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(synkro @ Jun 14 2004, 10:42 AM)you may ... Jun 14 2004, 10:54 AM
synkro QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 14 2004, 10:54 AM)I... Jun 14 2004, 10:58 AM
IIO__oII QUOTEWhy believe in something I cannot see, when I... Jun 14 2004, 04:37 PM
ryfitaDF i'm cool with anyone, believer or not. Jun 14 2004, 05:54 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 13 2004, 11:05 PM)G... Jun 14 2004, 07:20 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 14 2004, 10:25 AM)H... Jun 14 2004, 07:34 PM
IIO__oII QUOTEI know many don't like quotings of the Bi... Jun 14 2004, 08:59 PM
ryfitaDF what about all the revisions of the bible? you may... Jun 14 2004, 09:18 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 14 2004, 9:18 PM)what ab... Jun 15 2004, 06:40 AM
Retrogressive i used to be a very strong christian, i even had a... Jun 16 2004, 04:40 PM
Yemmerz QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 14 2004, 10:18 PM)what a... Jun 16 2004, 04:46 PM
JlIaTMK im christian and i personally dont believe so much... Jun 16 2004, 08:55 PM
shawty_redd QUOTE(Yemmerz @ Jun 16 2004, 3:46 PM)It does,... Jun 16 2004, 10:47 PM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(shawty_redd @ Jun 16 2004, 10:47 PM)so ... Jun 17 2004, 02:01 AM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 17 2004, 2:01 AM)yes. i ... Jun 17 2004, 09:14 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Jun 17 2004, 9:14 AM... Jun 17 2004, 09:39 AM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 9:39 AM)I ... Jun 17 2004, 10:46 AM
Spirited Away Here you go (<--about midrash). Jun 17 2004, 10:51 AM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 10:51 AM)H... Jun 17 2004, 10:56 AM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(loseronaisle5 @ Jun 16 2004, 4:40 PM)bu... Jun 17 2004, 02:12 PM
IIO__oII QUOTEf i believed in god i wouldn't think he h... Jun 17 2004, 03:38 PM
onenonly101 QUOTEi don't want to believe in a god who does... Jun 18 2004, 03:59 PM
Gypsy Eyes Personally, I dont believe in god. I honestly thin... Jun 18 2004, 05:56 PM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 18 2004, 5:56 PM)Perso... Jun 19 2004, 12:31 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 18 2004, 5:56 PM)Perso... Jun 19 2004, 07:43 AM
ryfitaDF QUOTE-Evolution is as much as a theory as the stor... Jun 19 2004, 11:05 AM
onenonly101 QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 18 2004, 5:56 PM)Perso... Jun 19 2004, 11:49 AM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 19 2004, 11:49 AM)The... Jun 19 2004, 12:56 PM
onenonly101 but didn't you say you believe in your self? t... Jun 19 2004, 04:04 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 19 2004, 11:49 AM)Fir... Jun 19 2004, 04:20 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 19 2004, 12:56 PM)then w... Jun 19 2004, 09:30 PM
Lena QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 19 2004, 4:04 PM)but ... Jun 19 2004, 10:06 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(Lena @ Jun 19 2004, 10:06 PM)CrimsonArc... Jun 19 2004, 11:01 PM
Spirited Away QUOTEThen I ask you...who created the so called cr... Jun 20 2004, 01:36 AM
Gypsy Eyes QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Jun 19 2004, 9:30 PM... Jun 20 2004, 01:49 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(Gypsy Eyes @ Jun 20 2004, 1:49 PM)Lamb ... Jun 20 2004, 03:28 PM
ryfitaDF QUOTE(CrimsonArchangel @ Jun 20 2004, 3:28 PM... Jun 20 2004, 03:53 PM
CrimsonArchangel QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jun 20 2004, 3:53 PM)why not... Jun 20 2004, 04:00 PM
onenonly101 QUOTEI've never heard of the Ten Commandments ... Jun 21 2004, 11:47 AM
Spirited Away QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 21 2004, 11:47 AM)You... Jun 21 2004, 12:06 PM
onenonly101 QUOTESo you're saying that before the Ten Comm... Jun 21 2004, 12:35 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(onenonly101 @ Jun 21 2004, 12:35 PM)I d... Jun 21 2004, 12:44 PM
IIO__oII QUOTEIf trusting God makes my life easier were tru... Jun 21 2004, 03:55 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Jun 21 2004, 3:55 PM)maybe i... Jun 21 2004, 04:35 PM
IIO__oII QUOTEi don't get you.
first you say that Chri... Jun 21 2004, 05:42 PM
Spirited Away QUOTE(IIO__oII @ Jun 21 2004, 5:42 PM)err.. w... Jun 21 2004, 05:47 PM
ComradeRed How will you spend eternity? Smoking or non-smokin... Jun 21 2004, 08:15 PM
ryfitaDF raise your fist in the air. DRUG FREE! Jun 22 2004, 01:01 AM
stryker76 Yeah i have to agree the christains do suffer more... Jun 22 2004, 06:10 AM
onenonly101 i don't know if this is what princess and iio_... Jun 22 2004, 10:13 AM
Beyond Elite oh my. People are crazy about this topic huh? Jun 22 2004, 10:44 AM![]() ![]() |