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Sexual equality is ridiculous, Paychecks. |
Apr 29 2007, 02:00 PM
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So there's been an issue with men being paid more than women when it comes to jobs.
Say a girl and a boy around the same age worked at the same store (and were paid equally). Now say they went on a date. Chances are, the girl wouldn't spend a dime and the boy would be spending all of his hard-earned money. The girl would only end up spending her paycheck on herself. The point? Men have more needs for money than women do. Men fundamentally have a need to spend more money than women do. Generally, men are paid more than women for the same jobs because, well, men have more demands for money than women do. Men want paying jobs. Women want glamorous jobs. Women never seem to demand that half of sewage workers or half of window cleaners are female. And I'm just going to put it out there now, I don't follow any of the above, but I'm willing to debate with you anyway. |
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May 3 2007, 10:11 PM
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Men deserve more money because pound for pound, they produce more. End of story. Sure, some women are exceptions, but men are naturally better at the jobs that count. I'm sure you're going to throw a tantrum about it though.
Women are dead investments because they have babies and are put out of commission for months. Men don't. I don't care if you don't plan on having a baby, we're talking in general. It's a fact that women have babies and men don't. If you have a problem with this, study human reproduction. QUOTE And I don't need to talk to my employer about a raise.. Last time I got $500 for a concert and I played for 10 minutes. ;) And of course I'm not going to use that reason to get a raise. I was basing my argument on the original one. "Men pay for dates, so they deserve more money." Complete bullshit. Good for you? Must have been a bad concert though. This guy I know gets paid more than twice that for like 15 minutes. It's not all fun and games for guys either. They have to pay more money on car insurance, even though women get into more accidents than men. Face it, women are simply not as valuable as men. There's a reason why baby girls are more often aborted than baby boys. |
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May 3 2007, 11:49 PM
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![]() daughter of sin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 |
Men deserve more money because pound for pound, they produce more. End of story. Sure, some women are exceptions, but men are naturally better at the jobs that count. I'm sure you're going to throw a tantrum about it though. Women are dead investments because they have babies and are put out of commission for months. Men don't. I don't care if you don't plan on having a baby, we're talking in general. It's a fact that women have babies and men don't. If you have a problem with this, study human reproduction. Sure, women aged 20-35 maybe. Although that itself isn't even a justified reason. What about the women outside that age group? Exclude teenagers. And they wouldn't leave work for too long. You too had a mother - don't forget. Where do you get all this from - the producing part? I've seen plenty of women doing their job better than men - being punctual, on time, and actually DOING their work. I can't understand how you can generalize people like that. QUOTE Good for you? Must have been a bad concert though. This guy I know gets paid more than twice that for like 15 minutes. So will I when I'm actually professoinal. And btw, I'm a classical pianist. QUOTE It's not all fun and games for guys either. They have to pay more money on car insurance, even though women get into more accidents than men. Face it, women are simply not as valuable as men. There's a reason why baby girls are more often aborted than baby boys. I do agree that women suck at driving - most of them anyway. So I'm not going to go there. Women aren't as valuable as men? Where did you come out from, a penis? This whole discussion is pointless. People are different. But to say that men should absolutely get more money than women in all cases, is pure bullshit. Just as I don't claim we should get more, you shouldn't either. |
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May 4 2007, 01:46 AM
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Sure, women aged 20-35 maybe. Although that itself isn't even a justified reason. What about the women outside that age group? Exclude teenagers. And they wouldn't leave work for too long. You too had a mother - don't forget. You just described an enormous chunk of the workforce. And if they don't have children, they don't need as much money. QUOTE Where do you get all this from - the producing part? I've seen plenty of women doing their job better than men - being punctual, on time, and actually DOING their work. I can't understand how you can generalize people like that. Says the person who made sweeping generalizations just a few posts before. Fact is, jobs women are paid less in, they produce less. Jobs where women excel, like feet smelling, they get paid more. QUOTE So will I when I'm actually professoinal. And btw, I'm a classical pianist. Good for you? Too bad he'll be making more because he is a guy. QUOTE Women aren't as valuable as men? Where did you come out from, a penis? The woman is simply a vestibule. QUOTE This whole discussion is pointless. People are different. But to say that men should absolutely get more money than women in all cases, is pure bullshit. Just as I don't claim we should get more, you shouldn't either. You're just saying that because you lost. Men should get more when they deserve more. Women should get more when they deserve more. Men just deserve more more often than women. |
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May 4 2007, 06:38 AM
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![]() daughter of sin ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Member Posts: 1,653 Joined: Mar 2006 Member No: 386,134 |
You just described an enormous chunk of the workforce. And if they don't have children, they don't need as much money. Says the person who made sweeping generalizations just a few posts before. Fact is, jobs women are paid less in, they produce less. Jobs where women excel, like feet smelling, they get paid more. Actually, when I was born my dad stayed home with me and my mom worked. And I'm sure there have been other cases. So it's not just women. Plus, so what if they leave for a certain period of time? Just because the woman carries a living thing inside her shouldn't be the basis of her salary. That's really idiotic. It doesn't matter that she leaves for that time, it matters how she does her work WHILE she is there. QUOTE Good for you? Too bad he'll be making more because he is a guy. What an ignorant statement. In my field, that doesn't happen. And don't argue, I'm sure you know little to nothing about it. QUOTE The woman is simply a vestibule. So you DID come out of a penis.. aha. I understand. QUOTE You're just saying that because you lost. Men should get more when they deserve more. Women should get more when they deserve more. Men just deserve more more often than women. No, I'm saying it because it's true. The creator of this thread himself said he didn't believe what he was arguing. Oh, I got something out of you after all.. At least now you're not being completely narrow-minded. And do me a favour, next time, ok? Back up your little points with proof. Because what's there to argue? |
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May 4 2007, 08:06 AM
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Actually, when I was born my dad stayed home with me and my mom worked. And I'm sure there have been other cases. So it's not just women. Plus, so what if they leave for a certain period of time? Just because the woman carries a living thing inside her shouldn't be the basis of her salary. That's really idiotic. It doesn't matter that she leaves for that time, it matters how she does her work WHILE she is there. So who made more money at the time you were born, your mom or your dad? QUOTE What an ignorant statement. In my field, that doesn't happen. And don't argue, I'm sure you know little to nothing about it. You know, the field that women usually make more than men is prostitution. QUOTE So you DID come out of a penis.. aha. I understand. Where'd you come out of, a turkey baster? QUOTE No, I'm saying it because it's true. The creator of this thread himself said he didn't believe what he was arguing. QUOTE Oh, I got something out of you after all.. At least now you're not being completely narrow-minded. And do me a favour, next time, ok? Back up your little points with proof. Because what's there to argue? Hahaha you don't got shit. You've given as much proof as me. Sweeping generalizations and anecdotal evidence. Don't even give me that bullshit. |
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May 5 2007, 11:29 AM
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So who made more money at the time you were born, your mom or your dad? My mom made and still makes more money than my dad - and they're both managers. QUOTE You know, the field that women usually make more than men is prostitution. Interesting. Gee, I had no idea. QUOTE Where'd you come out of, a turkey baster? YES! You win 10 points. QUOTE Hahaha you don't got shit. You've given as much proof as me. Sweeping generalizations and anecdotal evidence. Don't even give me that bullshit. At least my "proof" isn't ignorant. |
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May 5 2007, 05:58 PM
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Arjuna Capulong Sexual equality is ridiculous Apr 29 2007, 02:00 PM
catastrophic With the date thing, you have a point.
But hey, t... Apr 29 2007, 02:51 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTEMen have more demands for money than women do... Apr 29 2007, 08:26 PM
hazardous QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 29 2007, 9:26... Apr 29 2007, 08:49 PM
kimmytree QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 29 2007, 9:49 PM) h... Apr 29 2007, 09:01 PM

hazardous QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 29 2007, 10:01 PM) ... Apr 30 2007, 04:26 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 29 2007, 9:49 PM) h... Apr 29 2007, 09:06 PM
.misoshiru Really now, maybe it's just me, but I believe ... Apr 29 2007, 03:08 PM
kimmytree Men always paying for everything on dates is a lit... Apr 29 2007, 03:12 PM
Summer Rain QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 29 2007, 04:12 PM) ... May 28 2007, 08:10 PM
hazardous QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 29 2007, 3:00... Apr 29 2007, 07:39 PM
onewaysalcha QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 29 2007, 5:39 PM) w... May 1 2007, 10:58 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura ... and women spend a lot of money on cosmetic, fa... Apr 29 2007, 07:42 PM
lil_gymnast6 I always pay for myself when I go out with a guy. ... Apr 29 2007, 07:56 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(lil_gymnast6 @ Apr 29 2007, 8:56 PM... Apr 29 2007, 09:21 PM
kimmytree ^ You're right, both genders have their streng... Apr 29 2007, 09:08 PM
kryogenix You know I tell you what women belong in the kitch... Apr 29 2007, 10:09 PM
Podomaht They're good for vagina and food.
That's ... Apr 29 2007, 10:20 PM
Endless_Symphony wtf?
i'm sorry. i know it's a debate but ... Apr 29 2007, 10:39 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 29 2007, 10:01 PM) ... Apr 30 2007, 03:18 PM
mishyerr This discussion has too many exceptions. Both wome... Apr 29 2007, 10:45 PM
Podomaht Arjuna just wants to sound smart. The actual topic... Apr 29 2007, 10:50 PM
Arjuna Capulong While I would prefer that this discussion not get ... Apr 30 2007, 04:40 PM
hazardous QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 30 2007, 5:40... Apr 30 2007, 04:54 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 30 2007, 5:54 PM) c... Apr 30 2007, 05:05 PM
kimmytree Eeeek, sorry Arjuna. I'll respond there then. ... Apr 30 2007, 06:09 PM
Angelina Taylor Actually, a man would probably pay for the first d... May 1 2007, 08:50 PM
kryogenix So, what you're saying here is, women deserve ... May 1 2007, 09:12 PM
Angelina Taylor QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 1 2007, 10:12 PM) S... May 2 2007, 10:17 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 2 2007, 11:17... May 2 2007, 10:47 PM
Angelina Taylor QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 2 2007, 11:47 PM) S... May 3 2007, 07:05 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 3 2007, 8:05 ... May 3 2007, 07:38 AM
Angelina Taylor QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 8:38 AM) Ne... May 3 2007, 09:24 AM
kryogenix QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 3 2007, 10:24... May 3 2007, 12:05 PM
Angelina Taylor QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 1:05 PM) No... May 3 2007, 09:01 PM
L!ckitySplit f**kin bitches May 1 2007, 09:14 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 1 2007, 9:50 ... May 1 2007, 09:21 PM
L!ckitySplit QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ May 1 2007, 9:21 ... May 3 2007, 10:21 PM
Endless_Symphony ^and please keep in mind to be respectful to both ... May 1 2007, 10:52 PM
kryogenix The hell?
Women ARE a dead investment. There is n... May 2 2007, 03:52 PM
Caitlinnn QUOTEMen pay the bills of the house, the cars, the... May 2 2007, 04:14 PM
onewaysalcha QUOTE(Caitlinnn @ May 2 2007, 2:14 PM) Wh... May 2 2007, 08:34 PM
ermfermoo Women should get paid as much as men do, and chiva... May 2 2007, 05:37 PM
Mystic Eyes This is pathetic.
1) Society has made it soo that... May 3 2007, 09:44 AM
Podomaht Basically, MEN ARE BETTAR!!1 May 3 2007, 12:25 PM
Mystic Eyes kryogenix, you fail Embarrassingly because you som... May 3 2007, 01:25 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(Mystic Eyes @ May 3 2007, 2:25 PM) ... May 3 2007, 03:28 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(Mystic Eyes @ May 3 2007, 2:25 PM) ... May 3 2007, 04:02 PM
Mystic Eyes Kryogenix you say i'm totally wrong and all th... May 3 2007, 04:36 PM
kryogenix QUOTE(Mystic Eyes @ May 3 2007, 5:36 PM) ... May 3 2007, 04:43 PM
Mystic Eyes QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 10:43 PM) N... May 3 2007, 05:01 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(Mystic Eyes @ May 3 2007, 6:01 PM) ... May 3 2007, 05:04 PM
Arjuna Capulong Discussion on the topic's great, but if you wa... May 3 2007, 04:52 PM
Endless_Symphony QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 11:11 PM) M... May 3 2007, 10:22 PM

Angelina Taylor QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 5 2007, 6:58 PM) Th... May 5 2007, 10:59 PM
hazardous QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 11:11 PM) M... May 5 2007, 01:09 PM
Mystic Eyes So, is it about the fact that women have children ... May 4 2007, 04:26 AM
Lauriffic Sexual equality should be a reality. Emphasis on ... May 4 2007, 10:50 PM
kryogenix I win.
http://www.google.com/search?source=ig... May 6 2007, 01:29 PM
hazardous QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 6 2007, 2:29 PM) I ... May 6 2007, 05:49 PM
Amechi church says men should be the head of the family, ... May 6 2007, 07:24 PM
hazardous QUOTE(Amechi @ May 6 2007, 8:24 PM) churc... May 7 2007, 03:39 PM
ursedonah QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 29 2007, 3:00... May 7 2007, 05:52 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(ursedonah @ May 7 2007, 6:52 PM) Yo... May 7 2007, 08:52 PM
Amechi QUOTE(ursedonah @ May 7 2007, 5:52 PM) In... May 8 2007, 12:34 PM
steve330 QUOTE(ursedonah @ May 7 2007, 05:52 PM) I... May 29 2007, 08:37 AM
ermfermoo Oh my, come on kids, who here's serious about ... May 14 2007, 09:27 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(ermfermoo @ May 14 2007, 10:27 PM) ... May 15 2007, 02:45 PM
ursedonah QUOTE(ermfermoo @ May 14 2007, 10:27 PM) ... May 28 2007, 06:00 PM
Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(ursedonah @ May 28 2007, 07:00 PM) ... May 28 2007, 08:05 PM
ermfermoo QUOTE(ursedonah @ May 28 2007, 07:00 PM) ... May 29 2007, 05:55 PM
ursedonah QUOTE(ermfermoo @ May 29 2007, 06:55 PM) ... May 29 2007, 08:32 PM
hazardous so the entire argument here is that men should be ... May 29 2007, 08:27 PM
ermfermoo The only way you can phase me, ursedonah, is by br... May 29 2007, 09:25 PM
steve330 As to the topic. Yes women are smarts, I won... May 29 2007, 09:56 PM
synkro since we're saying that men and women have dif... May 30 2007, 01:09 AM
ermfermoo What about the male nurses or doctors, and what ab... May 30 2007, 05:53 AM
steve330 I Never said men took them up because they had hig... May 30 2007, 06:01 AM
Just_Dream QUOTE(steve330 @ May 30 2007, 04:01 AM) I... May 30 2007, 06:26 AM
synkro i was being somewhat sarcastic and was referring m... May 30 2007, 06:06 AM
Amechi the only women that i openly hate are those who th... May 30 2007, 01:09 PM
hazardous studies show that neither men or women are superio... May 30 2007, 01:35 PM
NYCin2009 That is very traditional the idea of men having to... Jun 2 2007, 10:44 PM![]() ![]() |