Sexual equality is ridiculous, Paychecks. Options

[Simba]

So there's been an issue with men being paid more than women when it comes to jobs.

Say a girl and a boy around the same age worked at the same store (and were paid equally). Now say they went on a date. Chances are, the girl wouldn't spend a dime and the boy would be spending all of his hard-earned money. The girl would only end up spending her paycheck on herself. The point? Men have more needs for money than women do. Men fundamentally have a need to spend more money than women do.

Generally, men are paid more than women for the same jobs because, well, men have more demands for money than women do. Men want paying jobs. Women want glamorous jobs. Women never seem to demand that half of sewage workers or half of window cleaners are female.


And I'm just going to put it out there now, I don't follow any of the above, but I'm willing to debate with you anyway.

[*kryogenix*]

Men deserve more money because pound for pound, they produce more. End of story. Sure, some women are exceptions, but men are naturally better at the jobs that count. I'm sure you're going to throw a tantrum about it though.

Women are dead investments because they have babies and are put out of commission for months. Men don't. I don't care if you don't plan on having a baby, we're talking in general.

It's a fact that women have babies and men don't. If you have a problem with this, study human reproduction.

And I don't need to talk to my employer about a raise.. Last time I got $500 for a concert and I played for 10 minutes. ;) And of course I'm not going to use that reason to get a raise. I was basing my argument on the original one. "Men pay for dates, so they deserve more money." Complete bullshit.

Good for you? Must have been a bad concert though. This guy I know gets paid more than twice that for like 15 minutes.

It's not all fun and games for guys either. They have to pay more money on car insurance, even though women get into more accidents than men.

Face it, women are simply not as valuable as men. There's a reason why baby girls are more often aborted than baby boys.

[AngelinaTaylor]

Men deserve more money because pound for pound, they produce more. End of story. Sure, some women are exceptions, but men are naturally better at the jobs that count. I'm sure you're going to throw a tantrum about it though.

Women are dead investments because they have babies and are put out of commission for months. Men don't. I don't care if you don't plan on having a baby, we're talking in general.

It's a fact that women have babies and men don't. If you have a problem with this, study human reproduction.

Sure, women aged 20-35 maybe. Although that itself isn't even a justified reason. What about the women outside that age group? Exclude teenagers. And they wouldn't leave work for too long. You too had a mother - don't forget.

Where do you get all this from - the producing part? I've seen plenty of women doing their job better than men - being punctual, on time, and actually DOING their work. I can't understand how you can generalize people like that.

Good for you? Must have been a bad concert though. This guy I know gets paid more than twice that for like 15 minutes.

So will I when I'm actually professoinal. And btw, I'm a classical pianist.

It's not all fun and games for guys either. They have to pay more money on car insurance, even though women get into more accidents than men.

Face it, women are simply not as valuable as men. There's a reason why baby girls are more often aborted than baby boys.

I do agree that women suck at driving - most of them anyway. So I'm not going to go there.

Women aren't as valuable as men? Where did you come out from, a penis?

This whole discussion is pointless. People are different. But to say that men should absolutely get more money than women in all cases, is pure bullshit. Just as I don't claim we should get more, you shouldn't either.

[*kryogenix*]

Sure, women aged 20-35 maybe. Although that itself isn't even a justified reason. What about the women outside that age group? Exclude teenagers. And they wouldn't leave work for too long. You too had a mother - don't forget.

You just described an enormous chunk of the workforce. And if they don't have children, they don't need as much money.

Where do you get all this from - the producing part? I've seen plenty of women doing their job better than men - being punctual, on time, and actually DOING their work. I can't understand how you can generalize people like that.

Says the person who made sweeping generalizations just a few posts before. Fact is, jobs women are paid less in, they produce less. Jobs where women excel, like feet smelling, they get paid more.

So will I when I'm actually professoinal. And btw, I'm a classical pianist.

Good for you? Too bad he'll be making more because he is a guy.

Women aren't as valuable as men? Where did you come out from, a penis?

The woman is simply a vestibule.

This whole discussion is pointless. People are different. But to say that men should absolutely get more money than women in all cases, is pure bullshit. Just as I don't claim we should get more, you shouldn't either.

You're just saying that because you lost.

Men should get more when they deserve more. Women should get more when they deserve more. Men just deserve more more often than women.

[AngelinaTaylor]

You just described an enormous chunk of the workforce. And if they don't have children, they don't need as much money.
Says the person who made sweeping generalizations just a few posts before. Fact is, jobs women are paid less in, they produce less. Jobs where women excel, like feet smelling, they get paid more.

Actually, when I was born my dad stayed home with me and my mom worked. And I'm sure there have been other cases. So it's not just women. Plus, so what if they leave for a certain period of time? Just because the woman carries a living thing inside her shouldn't be the basis of her salary. That's really idiotic. It doesn't matter that she leaves for that time, it matters how she does her work WHILE she is there.

Good for you? Too bad he'll be making more because he is a guy.

What an ignorant statement. In my field, that doesn't happen. And don't argue, I'm sure you know little to nothing about it.

The woman is simply a vestibule.

So you DID come out of a penis.. aha. I understand.

You're just saying that because you lost.

Men should get more when they deserve more. Women should get more when they deserve more. Men just deserve more more often than women.

No, I'm saying it because it's true. The creator of this thread himself said he didn't believe what he was arguing.

Oh, I got something out of you after all.. At least now you're not being completely narrow-minded.

And do me a favour, next time, ok? Back up your little points with proof. Because what's there to argue?