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Sexual equality is ridiculous, Paychecks.
Simba
post Apr 29 2007, 02:00 PM
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So there's been an issue with men being paid more than women when it comes to jobs.

Say a girl and a boy around the same age worked at the same store (and were paid equally). Now say they went on a date. Chances are, the girl wouldn't spend a dime and the boy would be spending all of his hard-earned money. The girl would only end up spending her paycheck on herself. The point? Men have more needs for money than women do. Men fundamentally have a need to spend more money than women do.

Generally, men are paid more than women for the same jobs because, well, men have more demands for money than women do. Men want paying jobs. Women want glamorous jobs. Women never seem to demand that half of sewage workers or half of window cleaners are female.


And I'm just going to put it out there now, I don't follow any of the above, but I'm willing to debate with you anyway.
 
 
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post May 1 2007, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 1 2007, 9:50 PM) *
Actually, a man would probably pay for the first date, maybe the second or even third. But after that, what normal human beings would do is split the bill, unless the guy is a LOT LOT LOT wealthier than the girl.

That aside. Guys have more needs for money? Don't think so. We, women, also have needs - equal or maybe even exceeding the needs of a typical man.

I'll be stereotypical here, but for instance:

- a single mom that has to take care of her child would logically need more money than a single guy, most times.

- money for make up, hair products (some women spend a fortune on these), shaving/waxing equipment, pads/tampons, birth control (pills that we take, etc), clothes (although this goes for both sexes, but most women "need" more shopping there), accessoires (jewelry mostly), perfumes/body lotions/moisturizers/tanning moisturizers, and I can't think of anymore examples. But I'm sure there's more.

- some women don't date.

- what about arranged marriages? The expenses which you mentioned wouldn't be in there, I guess. Could be wrong.

- lesbians. No guys there to pay for the date.

So why should we get paid less?
Sorry guys, like I said before, I really don't have anything to argue against that sort of logic right now, so I'm letting it rest for the moment. In other words, you win that for now.

QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 1 2007, 9:50 PM) *
Any proof on that? Some statistics? Why should I believe that?
Well, did you check the article I linked to, for starters?

http://www.livescience.com/humanbiology/06...brainy_men.html
(And before someone bites about it, the article was written by a woman.)

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post May 3 2007, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ May 1 2007, 9:21 PM) *
Please don't spam.



oh hush jesus, i do what i please. plus im your elder.
 

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Arjuna Capulong   Sexual equality is ridiculous   Apr 29 2007, 02:00 PM
catastrophic   With the date thing, you have a point. But hey, t...   Apr 29 2007, 02:51 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTEMen have more demands for money than women do...   Apr 29 2007, 08:26 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 29 2007, 9:26...   Apr 29 2007, 08:49 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 29 2007, 9:49 PM) h...   Apr 29 2007, 09:01 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 29 2007, 10:01 PM) ...   Apr 30 2007, 04:26 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 29 2007, 9:49 PM) h...   Apr 29 2007, 09:06 PM
.misoshiru   Really now, maybe it's just me, but I believe ...   Apr 29 2007, 03:08 PM
kimmytree   Men always paying for everything on dates is a lit...   Apr 29 2007, 03:12 PM
Summer Rain   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 29 2007, 04:12 PM) ...   May 28 2007, 08:10 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 29 2007, 3:00...   Apr 29 2007, 07:39 PM
onewaysalcha   QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 29 2007, 5:39 PM) w...   May 1 2007, 10:58 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   ... and women spend a lot of money on cosmetic, fa...   Apr 29 2007, 07:42 PM
lil_gymnast6   I always pay for myself when I go out with a guy. ...   Apr 29 2007, 07:56 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(lil_gymnast6 @ Apr 29 2007, 8:56 PM...   Apr 29 2007, 09:21 PM
kimmytree   ^ You're right, both genders have their streng...   Apr 29 2007, 09:08 PM
kryogenix   You know I tell you what women belong in the kitch...   Apr 29 2007, 10:09 PM
Podomaht   They're good for vagina and food. That's ...   Apr 29 2007, 10:20 PM
Endless_Symphony   wtf? i'm sorry. i know it's a debate but ...   Apr 29 2007, 10:39 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 29 2007, 10:01 PM) ...   Apr 30 2007, 03:18 PM
mishyerr   This discussion has too many exceptions. Both wome...   Apr 29 2007, 10:45 PM
Podomaht   Arjuna just wants to sound smart. The actual topic...   Apr 29 2007, 10:50 PM
Arjuna Capulong   While I would prefer that this discussion not get ...   Apr 30 2007, 04:40 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 30 2007, 5:40...   Apr 30 2007, 04:54 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 30 2007, 5:54 PM) c...   Apr 30 2007, 05:05 PM
kimmytree   Eeeek, sorry Arjuna. I'll respond there then. ...   Apr 30 2007, 06:09 PM
Angelina Taylor   Actually, a man would probably pay for the first d...   May 1 2007, 08:50 PM
kryogenix   So, what you're saying here is, women deserve ...   May 1 2007, 09:12 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 1 2007, 10:12 PM) S...   May 2 2007, 10:17 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 2 2007, 11:17...   May 2 2007, 10:47 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 2 2007, 11:47 PM) S...   May 3 2007, 07:05 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 3 2007, 8:05 ...   May 3 2007, 07:38 AM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 8:38 AM) Ne...   May 3 2007, 09:24 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 3 2007, 10:24...   May 3 2007, 12:05 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 1:05 PM) No...   May 3 2007, 09:01 PM
L!ckitySplit   f**kin bitches   May 1 2007, 09:14 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 1 2007, 9:50 ...   May 1 2007, 09:21 PM
L!ckitySplit   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ May 1 2007, 9:21 ...   May 3 2007, 10:21 PM
Endless_Symphony   ^and please keep in mind to be respectful to both ...   May 1 2007, 10:52 PM
kryogenix   The hell? Women ARE a dead investment. There is n...   May 2 2007, 03:52 PM
Caitlinnn   QUOTEMen pay the bills of the house, the cars, the...   May 2 2007, 04:14 PM
onewaysalcha   QUOTE(Caitlinnn @ May 2 2007, 2:14 PM) Wh...   May 2 2007, 08:34 PM
ermfermoo   Women should get paid as much as men do, and chiva...   May 2 2007, 05:37 PM
Mystic Eyes   This is pathetic. 1) Society has made it soo that...   May 3 2007, 09:44 AM
Podomaht   Basically, MEN ARE BETTAR!!1   May 3 2007, 12:25 PM
Mystic Eyes   kryogenix, you fail Embarrassingly because you som...   May 3 2007, 01:25 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(Mystic Eyes @ May 3 2007, 2:25 PM) ...   May 3 2007, 03:28 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Mystic Eyes @ May 3 2007, 2:25 PM) ...   May 3 2007, 04:02 PM
Mystic Eyes   Kryogenix you say i'm totally wrong and all th...   May 3 2007, 04:36 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Mystic Eyes @ May 3 2007, 5:36 PM) ...   May 3 2007, 04:43 PM
Mystic Eyes   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 10:43 PM) N...   May 3 2007, 05:01 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(Mystic Eyes @ May 3 2007, 6:01 PM) ...   May 3 2007, 05:04 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Discussion on the topic's great, but if you wa...   May 3 2007, 04:52 PM
kryogenix   Men deserve more money because pound for pound, th...   May 3 2007, 10:11 PM
Endless_Symphony   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 11:11 PM) M...   May 3 2007, 10:22 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 11:11 PM) M...   May 3 2007, 11:49 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 4 2007, 12:49...   May 4 2007, 01:46 AM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 4 2007, 2:46 AM) Yo...   May 4 2007, 06:38 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 4 2007, 7:38 ...   May 4 2007, 08:06 AM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 4 2007, 9:06 AM) So...   May 5 2007, 11:29 AM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ May 5 2007, 12:29...   May 5 2007, 05:58 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 5 2007, 6:58 PM) Th...   May 5 2007, 10:59 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 3 2007, 11:11 PM) M...   May 5 2007, 01:09 PM
Mystic Eyes   So, is it about the fact that women have children ...   May 4 2007, 04:26 AM
Lauriffic   Sexual equality should be a reality. Emphasis on ...   May 4 2007, 10:50 PM
kryogenix   I win. http://www.google.com/search?source=ig...   May 6 2007, 01:29 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(kryogenix @ May 6 2007, 2:29 PM) I ...   May 6 2007, 05:49 PM
Amechi   church says men should be the head of the family, ...   May 6 2007, 07:24 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(Amechi @ May 6 2007, 8:24 PM) churc...   May 7 2007, 03:39 PM
ursedonah   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 29 2007, 3:00...   May 7 2007, 05:52 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(ursedonah @ May 7 2007, 6:52 PM) Yo...   May 7 2007, 08:52 PM
Amechi   QUOTE(ursedonah @ May 7 2007, 5:52 PM) In...   May 8 2007, 12:34 PM
steve330   QUOTE(ursedonah @ May 7 2007, 05:52 PM) I...   May 29 2007, 08:37 AM
ermfermoo   Oh my, come on kids, who here's serious about ...   May 14 2007, 09:27 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(ermfermoo @ May 14 2007, 10:27 PM) ...   May 15 2007, 02:45 PM
ursedonah   QUOTE(ermfermoo @ May 14 2007, 10:27 PM) ...   May 28 2007, 06:00 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(ursedonah @ May 28 2007, 07:00 PM) ...   May 28 2007, 08:05 PM
ermfermoo   QUOTE(ursedonah @ May 28 2007, 07:00 PM) ...   May 29 2007, 05:55 PM
ursedonah   QUOTE(ermfermoo @ May 29 2007, 06:55 PM) ...   May 29 2007, 08:32 PM
hazardous   so the entire argument here is that men should be ...   May 29 2007, 08:27 PM
ermfermoo   The only way you can phase me, ursedonah, is by br...   May 29 2007, 09:25 PM
steve330   As to the topic. Yes women are smarts, I won...   May 29 2007, 09:56 PM
synkro   since we're saying that men and women have dif...   May 30 2007, 01:09 AM
ermfermoo   What about the male nurses or doctors, and what ab...   May 30 2007, 05:53 AM
steve330   I Never said men took them up because they had hig...   May 30 2007, 06:01 AM
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hazardous   studies show that neither men or women are superio...   May 30 2007, 01:35 PM
NYCin2009   That is very traditional the idea of men having to...   Jun 2 2007, 10:44 PM


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