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A CHALLENGE TO THE ATHEIST
*Podomaht*
post May 1 2007, 11:02 PM
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Prove that there is no God.
 
 
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post May 2 2007, 04:19 PM
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prove to me that there's something after death.
 
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post May 2 2007, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(.misoshiru @ May 2 2007, 5:19 PM) *
prove to me that there's something after death.
1) We are not our bodies. 2) Being born into certain living conditions. 3) Clinical death situations and their stories of experiencing "life after death." 4) The Dalai Lama and similar situations in which children unexposed to media can recall their pasts.

(I'm implying reincarnation.)
 
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post May 3 2007, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ May 2 2007, 5:32 PM) *
1) We are not our bodies. 2) Being born into certain living conditions. 3) Clinical death situations and their stories of experiencing "life after death." 4) The Dalai Lama and similar situations in which children unexposed to media can recall their pasts.

(I'm implying reincarnation.)

Reincarnation is the stupidest theory but as much as I hate to admit it, it is entirely plausible. Einstein's theory of energy held the idea that energy is eternal and can never be depleted, merely changed. So the idea that the energy of one life can be shifted to inhabit a new life is plausible. But the idea of Kharma and being either rewarded or punished for the acts of your past life is bullshit. It is possible that our energy can carry some form of memory, so we may remember things from a past life. But your beliefs and/or actions have nothing to do with it. And anyone who will decide to critique this idea(and I know you're all just itching behind the surface) can shut the f**k up.
What do you think the idea of a soul is? A soul is the displaced energy our bodies once held. It is the energy within us which gives us our extrasensory perception, like when you feel that someone is looking at you and when you look up they're staring at you, or how when you walk into a room where fighting has occured you feel either anger or fear.
NDEs(Near Death Experiences) are merely our dying brains fulfilling what our beliefs are. Why do you think a Christian NDE will see Jesus or God, yet an Islamic NDE will see Allah. If you live your life believing that Barney and the Grimace are your saviors, your NDE will be full of purple mosters.
We all have our beliefs, I myself hold the belief that there is no higher power. This is not arrogance or ignorance talking, you have no idea how much I would love to have unquestioning blind faith in a God that will answer my prayers and guide me through life because I can say without a doubt that I am utterly lost. The problem is that my rational mind would never allow this. It's not fair to me, I want to have faith. But wanting and truly believing are two very different things. I know this about myself, there is nothing in life that can ever make me believe in a higher power because there is always an explanation, even for the things we have not yet discovered. In 500 years, I believe we will have undenying evidence that show how humans came to be, how the universe was formed, all the secrets of life we have yet to discover. It just takes time. 500 years ago, we all thought the world was flat, that Earth was the center of the Solar system, and no one questioned the notion of God and his divine plan. But we've learned better, haven't we.
 

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Podomaht   A CHALLENGE TO THE ATHEIST   May 1 2007, 11:02 PM
The Abominable C-Pillar   I saw a little boy who was maybe 6 or seven with a...   May 1 2007, 11:11 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ May 2 20...   May 2 2007, 03:35 PM
xKatt   QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ May 1 20...   Jun 20 2007, 12:09 AM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(xKatt @ Jun 20 2007, 01:09 AM) The...   Jun 20 2007, 03:21 PM
xKatt   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Jun 20 2007, 03:2...   Jun 20 2007, 05:47 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(xKatt @ Jun 20 2007, 06:47 PM) Oh ...   Jun 20 2007, 06:19 PM
1angel3   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Jun 20 2007, 03:1...   Jun 21 2007, 12:55 PM
Acid Bath Slayer   QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jun 21 2007, 12:55 PM) So...   Jun 21 2007, 02:39 PM
1angel3   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jun 21 2007, 11...   Jun 21 2007, 08:20 PM
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xKatt   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jun 23 2007, 11...   Jun 23 2007, 01:21 PM
1angel3   QUOTE(Acid Bath Slayer @ Jun 23 2007, 08...   Jun 23 2007, 03:43 PM
kimmytree   I dont think we as humans will EVER be able to pro...   May 2 2007, 03:50 PM
one_and_only   QUOTE(kimmytree @ May 2 2007, 01:50 PM) I...   May 27 2007, 09:18 PM
.misoshiru   prove to me that there's something after death...   May 2 2007, 04:19 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(.misoshiru @ May 2 2007, 5:19 PM) p...   May 2 2007, 04:32 PM
The Abominable C-Pillar   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ May 2 2007, 5:32 ...   May 3 2007, 12:38 AM
Caitlinnn   Prove that there is a God. Posts like this don...   May 2 2007, 04:26 PM
Podomaht   QUOTE(Caitlinnn @ May 2 2007, 5:26 PM) Pr...   May 2 2007, 04:35 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(Podomaht @ May 2 2007, 5:35 PM) Exa...   May 2 2007, 04:38 PM
steve330   QUOTE(Podomaht @ May 2 2007, 04:35 PM) Ex...   May 23 2007, 07:48 PM
onewaysalcha   QUOTE(Caitlinnn @ May 2 2007, 2:26 PM) Pr...   May 2 2007, 08:38 PM
kimmytree   ^ I actually think its easier to debate over the i...   May 2 2007, 04:43 PM
Caitlinnn   QUOTEExact-o-f**king-ly. You can't prove anyth...   May 2 2007, 04:48 PM
.misoshiru   You can't prove that there IS a god the way th...   May 2 2007, 08:43 PM
cup noodles   PROVE THAT THERE IS A GOD.   May 2 2007, 08:45 PM
StanleyThePanda   QUOTE(cup noodles @ May 2 2007, 9:45 PM) ...   May 3 2007, 12:42 AM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(.misoshiru @ May 2 2007, 9:43 PM) Y...   May 2 2007, 08:45 PM
.misoshiru   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ May 3 2007, 9:45 ...   May 2 2007, 08:47 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(.misoshiru @ May 2 2007, 9:47 PM) T...   May 2 2007, 08:56 PM
.misoshiru   the topic Challenge for Christians. "prove t...   May 2 2007, 09:28 PM
AlextheShineyPenny   QUOTE(.misoshiru @ May 2 2007, 07:28 PM) ...   Jun 27 2007, 09:53 PM
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Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(The Abominable C-Pillar @ May 3 20...   May 3 2007, 03:09 PM
The Abominable C-Pillar   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ May 3 2007, 4:09 ...   May 3 2007, 10:26 PM
StanleyThePanda   ^ "different from an imaginary friend." ...   May 3 2007, 03:15 PM
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My Cinderella.   ^ Please don't spam, love. Well, I'm pre...   May 3 2007, 10:53 PM
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ersatz   QUOTE(My Cinderella. @ May 4 2007, 09:59 ...   May 25 2007, 06:56 AM
&/degradanca.   ^ That's what science tries to explain. The B...   May 4 2007, 10:15 PM
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MyMichelle   :O The grass is greener on the other side. That...   May 23 2007, 07:12 PM
ashleybby   i dont think anyone could prove there isnt a god a...   May 23 2007, 07:16 PM
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Monokuro-Boo   QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jun 11 2007, 04:11 PM) No...   Jun 11 2007, 08:04 PM
LOWinSKANK   if you ask someone to prove there is no god, you b...   May 27 2007, 10:16 PM
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1angel3   ^ I agree and I'm a christain but anyway, I tr...   Jun 20 2007, 01:02 PM
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AlextheShineyPenny   QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jun 27 2007, 08:04 PM) Ye...   Jun 27 2007, 10:51 PM
xKatt   QUOTE(AlextheShineyPenny @ Jun 27 2007, 10...   Jun 27 2007, 10:57 PM
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1angel3   This was not a debate   Jun 28 2007, 09:38 PM
1angel3   ^^ I agree   Jun 28 2007, 09:50 PM
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