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the bible...fairytales?
cori-catastrophe
post Apr 10 2007, 06:44 PM
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earlier today, i was debating with another cber about the bible. she seemed to believe that jesus walked the earth, but she doesn't believe in god, nor any of the historical stories in the bible, such as the flood that god sent to rid the world of all evil.
i believe in god, as well as the stories in the bible.
i just think that over the many years people have made the stories into fairytales. perhaps they overdid it on the describing details by using dramatic hyperboles. people are the ones that leave us wondering about our faith, not god.
i believe that they all happened the original way that god planned them, but there isn't very much proof anymore because of people. although, god could also be testing our faithfulnes toward him being in control. what do you think?
 
 
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post Apr 24 2007, 09:14 PM
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Religion is my most favorite subject to discuss.

Heres what I say.Its ridiculous to believe everything in the bible REALLY happened.Take for instance, noahs ark.Its been scientifically proven that there was no such thing as a global flood.It is, however, possible to be a local flood which couldve been mistaken for a global flood.

Every story in the bible has a realistic problem.The resolutions teach us important life lessons.The characters, setting, stories are fiction.Just like any other bedtime story.

The definition of a fairytale is "a folk story about real-life problems, usually with imaginary characters and magical events".That pretty much sums up the bible for me.
 
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post Apr 25 2007, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(callous @ Apr 24 2007, 10:14 PM) *
Religion is my most favorite subject to discuss.

Heres what I say.Its ridiculous to believe everything in the bible REALLY happened.Take for instance, noahs ark.Its been scientifically proven that there was no such thing as a global flood.It is, however, possible to be a local flood which couldve been mistaken for a global flood.

Every story in the bible has a realistic problem.The resolutions teach us important life lessons.The characters, setting, stories are fiction.Just like any other bedtime story.

The definition of a fairytale is "a folk story about real-life problems, usually with imaginary characters and magical events".That pretty much sums up the bible for me.

well, obviously some of them are pretty ridiculous to believe. but they do teach lessons on faith. so they do have a meaning.
 
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post Apr 25 2007, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 25 2007, 4:49 PM) *
well, obviously some of them are pretty ridiculous to believe. but they do teach lessons on faith. so they do have a meaning.

So some of them are fairytales, then? mellow.gif
That's basically what you just said.
 
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post Apr 25 2007, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 25 2007, 5:12 PM) *
So some of them are fairytales, then? mellow.gif
That's basically what you just said.

some of them make not have been written to be literal is what i'm saying.
if someone believs that everything in the bible is to be taken literal and not over-exagerating, they're crazy. some of them are symbolic.
for example.
in revelations,
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1:20 the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in my right hand, and the seven golden lampstands. The seven stars are the angels of the seven assemblies. The seven lampstands are seven assemblies.

this isn't to be taken literal. do you actually think that god was holding seven stars? he wasn't.
no one knows fully what it means, but i'm pretty sure it represnts the seven continents.
 
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post Apr 25 2007, 06:08 PM
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QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 25 2007, 7:01 PM) *
some of them make not have been written to be literal is what i'm saying.
if someone believs that everything in the bible is to be taken literal and not over-exagerating, they're crazy. some of them are symbolic.
for example.
in revelations,

this isn't to be taken literal. do you actually think that god was holding seven stars? he wasn't.
no one knows fully what it means, but i'm pretty sure it represnts the seven continents.

Okay, I see what you're saying.

So we can come to the agreement that at least some of the stories in the bible arent to be taken literally. But then who's to say what stories can and cannot be taken literally? If one story is flawed, then that makes the whole book questionable.

Maybe God was over-exaggerating when he said that those who are blasphemous are damned, and that those who dont choose to believe in him are damned too? Hey, it's possible. Personally, I dont believe that anything in the Bible is the word of God, so it doesnt matter to me either way.

I really hope you dont think I'm trying to attack you or anything, because I'm honestly not trying to. _smile.gif
 

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hazardous   the bible...fairytales?   Apr 10 2007, 06:44 PM
Arjuna Capulong   There's definitely at least some truth in the ...   Apr 10 2007, 06:48 PM
hazardous   there's obviously some truth in it, but which ...   Apr 10 2007, 07:25 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(hazardous @ Apr 10 2007, 8:25 PM) t...   Apr 10 2007, 07:30 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 10 2007, 8:30...   Apr 10 2007, 07:51 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Sounds like denial if she's not backing her re...   Apr 10 2007, 08:02 PM
bitesnkisses   THere are truths in the bible, like that Jesus was...   Apr 10 2007, 08:49 PM
hazardous   QUOTE(bitesnkisses @ Apr 10 2007, 9:49 PM...   Apr 16 2007, 06:01 PM
Kurd Jam   There's some factual truths involving historic...   Apr 11 2007, 02:40 PM
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mishyerr   I know many people who believe that Jesus lived. I...   Apr 17 2007, 05:06 PM
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