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Another Christian contradiction, perhaps?
silly ol' man
post Apr 24 2007, 12:42 AM
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I'm pretty intrigued by this whole "let's try to poke holes in the Christian faith" fad, so I've tried one out myself! Here's my line of thought:
  • The Christian religion teaches that God is "perfect."
  • Perfection implies wholeness, thoroughness, completeness...
  • If God is perfect, he needs no ends because he is perfect, complete.
  • To say that he created us out of love, or boredom, etc., would deny his perfection because we would be means to those ends, which he didn't need in the first place.
  • Ergo, if God created us, there's two possibilities: 1) he's not perfect, 2) Christianity has yet another swiss cheese hole.
Discuss.

EDIT// There are also obvious imperfections in his creations, i.e., random deformations, stillborns, cancer, etc.. I'm not sure about this point, but it seems to have relevance at the moment.
 
 
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silly ol' man
post Apr 24 2007, 10:11 PM
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^ So you're under the impression that Christianity would consider God sinless, but not perfect? Doesn't omnipotence/omniscience, by its very root concept, equal perfection? Beyond knowing everything and being more powerful than everything (hence, not needing any ends and therefore not needing to create means [us] to achieve those ends), how much more perfect does it get?
 

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