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post Apr 22 2007, 06:10 PM
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http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2539036

Evidence provided was:

http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2538981
http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...t&p=2539000

The first link, did not mention the other guy at all, it was stating a fact.

The second link is not bashing, nor did he seem offended at all.

The best part was I was trying to get it back on topic, and this is how you thank me? I'm better off not helping you guys.
 
 
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Simba
post Apr 22 2007, 06:47 PM
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The thing that makes those posts so insulting is that he felt that you were mocking him (which you were), which is more or less why he replied to you with such hostility.

1) "Wow that's utter fail." Insulting his statements.
2) "Are you slow or something?" Although your intention was to tell him to "take a look at the situation again before he continued messing up the debate," you said it in an insulting way.
3) Regardless of whether or not it was defensive or not, it was insulting to him; "wow is this kid for real?"
4) You were insulting his logic. Sarcastic because you can't win a national debate with an argument like that. (However, it's not the national debate bit that makes the post offensive, it's that you were insulting his logic.)
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 06:51 PM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 7:47 PM) *
The thing that makes those posts so insulting is that he felt that you were mocking him (which you were), which is more or less why he replied to you with such hostility.

1) "Wow that's utter fail." Insulting his statements.


That's not member bashing, that's statement bashing. That's what happens in debates, deal with it.

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2) "Are you slow or something?" Although your intention was to tell him to "take a look at the situation again before he continued messing up the debate," you said it in an insulting way.


No I didn't. I didn't say, wow, are you a f**king retard. Slow is the more politically correct term.

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3) Regardless of whether or not it was defensive or not, it was insulting to him; "wow is this kid for real?"


I'm asking, are you serious. That way there is no confusion. It's an expression. Deal with it.

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4) You were insulting his logic. Sarcastic because you can't win a national debate with an argument like that. (However, it's not the national debate bit that makes the post offensive, it's that you were insulting his logic.)


See #1.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 7:51 PM) *
That's not member bashing, that's statement bashing. That's what happens in debates, deal with it.
Ok, so now we both agree that it was bashing. Because it was his statement, it would end up as insulting him. Just like if I said what Jimmy said was garbage, he would have every right to feel offended, as he was the one who produced whatever statement.
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 7:51 PM) *
No I didn't. I didn't say, wow, are you a f**king retard. Slow is the more politically correct term.
The specific words you used doesn't matter here. You were conveying the same message, which was an offensive one.
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 7:51 PM) *
I'm asking, are you serious. That way there is no confusion. It's an expression. Deal with it.
The way that you expressed the question was insulting.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 07:05 PM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 8:01 PM) *
Ok, so now we both agree that it was bashing. Because it was his statement, it would end up as insulting him. Just like if I said what Jimmy said was garbage, he would have every right to feel offended, as he was the one who produced whatever statement.


Reading comprehension dude.

I attacked what he said, not the person. That's what a debate is. If I said Jimmy, that statement is garbage, I'm not calling Jimmy garbage.

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The specific words you used doesn't matter here. You were conveying the same message, which was an offensive one.


You're changing your story now. First you said I was saying it in an insulting way, which was the reason why it was bashing. But now it doesn't even matter that it wasn't insulting, because it's insulting to ask someone if they don't understand?

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The way that you expressed the question was insulting.


Flip flopping. You just said it doesn't matter, now it does matter how I say it?

Pick one thing and stick with it.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 8:05 PM) *
I attacked what he said, not the person. That's what a debate is. If I said Jimmy, that statement is garbage, I'm not calling Jimmy garbage.
Say you called Jimmy garbage. Now you may have offended Jimmy's mother.
QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 8:05 PM) *
You're changing your story now. First you said I was saying it in an insulting way, which was the reason why it was bashing. But now it doesn't even matter that it wasn't insulting, because it's insulting to ask someone if they don't understand?
Flip flopping. You just said it doesn't matter, now it does matter how I say it?

Pick one thing and stick with it.
In the case of calling him "slow," it doesn't matter what words you were using whether it be "slow" or "retarded" because you were trying to convey the message that he was "slow."

Now where you were asking him if he was for real: sure you may have been asking him if he was serious but it was your specific choice of words that made it offensive.

The two situations are not the same.
 
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post Apr 22 2007, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 8:15 PM) *
Say you called Jimmy garbage. Now you may have offended Jimmy's mother.


What are you talking about?

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In the case of calling him "slow," it doesn't matter what words you were using whether it be "slow" or "retarded" because you were trying to convey the message that he was "slow."


No, I was asking.

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Now where you were asking him if he was for real: sure you may have been asking him if he was serious but it was your specific choice of words that made it offensive.


YOU FO REAL? How many times have you heard that? It means ARE YOU SERIOUS?

I'm sorry, I was born and lived in NYC, don't hate on me because of that.

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The two situations are not the same.


ARE YOU FOR REAL?
 

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kryogenix   WHAT'S NEW MR PUSSY CAT   Apr 22 2007, 06:10 PM
Arjuna Capulong   James, of course the guy was feeling offended, or ...   Apr 22 2007, 06:13 PM
kryogenix   The first link was not offensive at all. It was de...   Apr 22 2007, 06:14 PM
Sherlock.   Actually, the first link's post is rather an o...   Apr 22 2007, 06:15 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Sherlock. @ Apr 22 2007, 7:15 PM) A...   Apr 22 2007, 06:25 PM
Sherlock.   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 5:25 PM) F...   Apr 22 2007, 06:26 PM
kryogenix   Show me what you call insults.   Apr 22 2007, 06:27 PM
Sherlock.   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 4:39 PM) A...   Apr 22 2007, 06:29 PM
Arjuna Capulong   http://www.createblog.com/forums/index.php...p;#en...   Apr 22 2007, 06:30 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 7:30...   Apr 22 2007, 06:33 PM
kryogenix   No, I'm questioning whether he realizes that I...   Apr 22 2007, 06:31 PM
Sherlock.   Well, you could have simply added "Yes, i...   Apr 22 2007, 06:31 PM
Arjuna Capulong   The thing that makes those posts so insulting is t...   Apr 22 2007, 06:47 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 7:47...   Apr 22 2007, 06:51 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 7:51 PM) T...   Apr 22 2007, 07:01 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 8:01...   Apr 22 2007, 07:05 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 8:05 PM) I...   Apr 22 2007, 07:15 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 8:15...   Apr 22 2007, 07:21 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 8:21 PM) W...   Apr 22 2007, 07:44 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 8:44...   Apr 22 2007, 07:47 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 7:10 PM) h...   Apr 22 2007, 08:09 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 9:09...   Apr 22 2007, 08:32 PM
Seraphim9   Ok, lets get this straight. I was in fact offended...   Apr 22 2007, 08:20 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Apparently you insulted him at the same time.   Apr 22 2007, 08:33 PM
kryogenix   Apparently you're insulting me right now. His...   Apr 22 2007, 08:35 PM
Seraphim9   What lesson was I supposed to learn from this? How...   Apr 22 2007, 08:37 PM
kryogenix   You're slow at learning. Because you still ha...   Apr 22 2007, 08:39 PM
Seraphim9   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 9:39 PM) Y...   Apr 22 2007, 08:43 PM
Podomaht   I try not to read anything that has a " Staff...   Apr 22 2007, 08:40 PM
kryogenix   LOL. So you don't understand stuff, but you g...   Apr 22 2007, 08:45 PM
Seraphim9   Ummm yeah...I start arguements for something I can...   Apr 22 2007, 08:52 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Seraphim9 @ Apr 22 2007, 6:18 PM) T...   Apr 22 2007, 08:56 PM
Seraphim9   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 9:56 PM) Y...   Apr 22 2007, 09:05 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Like I said before guys, if you're going to co...   Apr 22 2007, 08:59 PM
kryogenix   There is no need for me to continue unless he atta...   Apr 22 2007, 08:59 PM
Arjuna Capulong   It appears he wants to continue, James. I would pr...   Apr 22 2007, 09:08 PM
kryogenix   His problem, not mine. So back on topic. Are you ...   Apr 22 2007, 09:09 PM
Seraphim9   QUOTE(kryogenix @ Apr 22 2007, 10:09 PM) ...   Apr 22 2007, 09:14 PM
Arjuna Capulong   I am leaving the verbal warning intact because he ...   Apr 22 2007, 09:13 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 10:1...   Apr 22 2007, 09:16 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Very well sir. Is there anything else you'd l...   Apr 22 2007, 09:18 PM
kryogenix   ibtl Yeah, it is still unfair, and you're goi...   Apr 22 2007, 09:19 PM
Podomaht   Reporting. I am feeling offended to that comment, ...   Apr 22 2007, 09:19 PM
Arjuna Capulong   If you still have a conflict with your verbal warn...   Apr 22 2007, 09:19 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 10:1...   Apr 22 2007, 09:25 PM
Seraphim9   Did this come to an end then?   Apr 22 2007, 09:21 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Yes, I do. I was in fact observing the incident wh...   Apr 22 2007, 09:28 PM
kryogenix   Alright then. Start writing those verbal warnings ...   Apr 22 2007, 09:30 PM
Arjuna Capulong   I haven't received anything yet, but I'll ...   Apr 22 2007, 09:32 PM
Just_Dream   QUOTE(Seraphim9 @ Apr 22 2007, 3:25 PM) I...   Apr 22 2007, 09:34 PM
kryogenix   QUOTE(Just_Dream @ Apr 22 2007, 10:34 PM)...   Apr 22 2007, 09:35 PM
Seraphim9   QUOTE(Just_Dream @ Apr 22 2007, 10:34 PM)...   Apr 22 2007, 09:36 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(Just_Dream @ Apr 22 2007, 9:34 PM) ...   Apr 22 2007, 09:35 PM
Just_Dream   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 22 2007, 7:35...   Apr 22 2007, 09:37 PM
kryogenix   Well, can you assure me that there is no double st...   Apr 22 2007, 09:46 PM


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