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 Jun 6 2004, 04:51 PM
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do u guys think the 2 bombs dropped on japan during WW2 were really needed?
i say no because they just killed innoc3nt people in those 2 citys and it left a perment mental damage on my grandma (im japanese) so what do u guys think |
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Jun 10 2004, 05:57 PM
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 Dark Lord of McCandless Group: Member Posts: 2,226 Joined: May 2004 Member No: 16,761 |
It was not an unconditional surrender. It was a surrender on the condition that the Emperor would be allowed to retain his ceremonial title, similar to the Queen of Great Britain. This would have been a good idea, being a 1400-year-old tradition in Japan and all. We could've used him to gain more support and make rebuidling the country less costly and less heavy-handed. After the bombings, a group of military hardliners staged a coup and tried to arrest the Emperor to prevent the release of the surrender transcripts. This coup, obviously, failed.
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Mr. Psychotic bombings on japan Jun 6 2004, 04:51 PM
CEP The Japenese were clearly losing even before the t... Jun 6 2004, 04:55 PM Yemmerz the us didnt have to bomb japan. they could of don... Jun 6 2004, 04:58 PM Mr. Psychotic QUOTE(chinkieeyedpnoi @ Jun 6 2004, 4:55 PM)T... Jun 6 2004, 05:00 PM IIO__oII well... the bombs DID make the japanese surrender.... Jun 7 2004, 12:05 AM Spirited Away To answer this question, I asked myself: Was it re... Jun 7 2004, 12:09 AM krnxswat Well as much as I want to say it wasn't, I thi... Jun 7 2004, 12:12 AM Mr. Psychotic QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 7 2004, 12:09 AM)To... Jun 7 2004, 12:45 AM krnxswat QUOTE(innoc3nt619 @ Jun 7 2004, 1:45 AM)see t... Jun 7 2004, 12:47 AM 177emories yes that it did kill innocent ppl... but then it e... Jun 7 2004, 01:31 AM Spirited Away QUOTE(innoc3nt619 @ Jun 7 2004, 12:45 AM)see ... Jun 7 2004, 01:34 AM tkproduce from a lot of european countries' point of vie... Jun 9 2004, 02:37 AM Spirited Away Here is a weak attempt to justify the nuclear bomb... Jun 9 2004, 09:59 AM tkproduce The second bomb was a bit pointless wasn't it? Jun 10 2004, 07:51 AM
mipadi QUOTE(tkproduce @ Jun 10 2004, 8:51 AM)The se... Jul 25 2005, 08:31 AM kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 25 2005, 8:31 AM)Were eith... Jul 25 2005, 09:27 AM mipadi QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 25 2005, 10:27 AM)And t... Jul 25 2005, 09:35 AM sadolakced acid QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 25 2005, 9:35 AM)Maybe, ma... Jul 25 2005, 12:32 PM kryogenix QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 25 2005, 9:35 AM)Maybe, ma... Jul 26 2005, 10:55 AM Spirited Away QUOTE(tkproduce @ Jun 10 2004, 7:51 AM)The se... Jun 10 2004, 09:48 AM ComradeRed Getting Japan to surrender was just a pretext. The... Jun 10 2004, 12:03 PM xscore QUOTE(krnxswat @ Jun 7 2004, 12:47 AM)What... Jun 10 2004, 12:35 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(xscore @ Jun 10 2004, 12:35 PM)wtf?
im ... Jun 10 2004, 12:39 PM onenonly101 The bombings were needed, just not in the place th... Jun 10 2004, 01:53 PM juliar QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 10 2004, 1:03 PM)Getti... Jun 10 2004, 03:58 PM ComradeRed Uh... yes they were. The Emperor himself already p... Jun 10 2004, 05:10 PM Spirited Away Well, the US gave many warnings in advance but Jap... Jun 10 2004, 05:51 PM Spirited Away The US wanted an unconditional surrender, but Japa... Jun 10 2004, 06:42 PM ComradeRed Originally hardliners within the US demanded that ... Jun 10 2004, 06:46 PM Spirited Away So then back to the original topic, there were sti... Jun 10 2004, 06:50 PM ComradeRed Yes, a lieutenant in the Eastern District Army (th... Jun 10 2004, 06:52 PM Spirited Away Commited suicide... Japanese's way of commitin... Jun 10 2004, 06:59 PM ComradeRed No, if the US guaranteed the Emperor's positio... Jun 10 2004, 07:06 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 10 2004, 7:06 PM)No, i... Jun 10 2004, 07:19 PM ComradeRed Justified, perhaps. Necessary, no. Jun 10 2004, 07:34 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(ComradeRed @ Jun 10 2004, 7:34 PM)Justi... Jun 10 2004, 07:38 PM honorguard Nope! I guess they just wanted it to feel more... Jun 10 2004, 07:40 PM kryogenix QUOTE(innoc3nt619 @ Jun 6 2004, 4:51 PM)do u ... Jun 11 2004, 04:13 PM stryker76 i am very patriotic toward my country...not like m... Jun 11 2004, 09:57 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(stryker76 @ Jun 11 2004, 9:57 PM)I mean... Jun 11 2004, 09:59 PM NatiMarie I think it was unnecessary for the bombs to be pla... Jun 11 2004, 10:42 PM AntiAnodyne QUOTE(tkproduce @ Jun 9 2004, 2:37 AM)from a ... Jun 14 2004, 08:48 AM kryogenix QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 11 2004, 10:42 PM)I thi... Jun 15 2004, 05:50 AM sadolakced acid no, the US just didn't want to invade japan. ... Jun 15 2004, 02:21 PM JlIaTMK those werent needed
there was just more ppl kille... Jun 16 2004, 09:20 PM NatiMarie QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jun 15 2004, 2:50 AM)They w... Jun 16 2004, 09:23 PM Spirited Away Well, when Japan attacked Pearl, they killed many ... Jun 16 2004, 11:32 PM NatiMarie Two wrongs don't make a right. Yeah, the Japan... Jun 16 2004, 11:46 PM Spirited Away Actually, there was NO declaration of WAR until th... Jun 16 2004, 11:50 PM NatiMarie Still...why the need to bomb Nagasaki. Why couldn... Jun 16 2004, 11:56 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 16 2004, 11:56 PM)Still... Jun 17 2004, 12:09 AM NatiMarie Quote: ComradeRed told me that basically (I think)... Jun 17 2004, 12:38 AM kryogenix QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 16 2004, 11:56 PM)Still... Jun 17 2004, 05:55 AM Spirited Away QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 17 2004, 12:38 AM)The U... Jun 17 2004, 09:21 AM Kitsune_black666 Um...I think the bombing just made the surrender c... Jun 17 2004, 10:09 AM NatiMarie QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 6:21 AM)Th... Jun 17 2004, 02:14 PM sadolakced acid everyone is asking, why drop 2 bombs. i'm goi... Jun 17 2004, 02:27 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 17 2004, 2:14 PM)Okay..... Jun 17 2004, 02:41 PM NatiMarie QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 11:41 AM) ... Jun 17 2004, 05:44 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 17 2004, 5:44 PM)Of cou... Jun 17 2004, 06:33 PM NatiMarie QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ Jun 17 2004, 3:33 PM)I ... Jun 21 2004, 02:47 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(NaTiMaRiE @ Jun 21 2004, 2:47 PM)Sorry.... Jun 21 2004, 02:52 PM winsome QUOTETruman was under time pressure to keep Stalin... Jun 22 2004, 01:07 PM Spirited Away QUOTE(winsome @ Jun 22 2004, 1:07 PM)Of cours... Jun 22 2004, 01:09 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEQUOTE (winsome @ Jun 22 2004, 1:07 PM)
Of co... Jun 29 2004, 01:08 AM sadolakced acid most agree the bomb was necessary. the first one.... Jun 29 2004, 01:51 AM EmeraldKnight QUOTEmost agree the bomb was necessary. the first ... Jun 29 2004, 09:53 AM sadolakced acid haha. i was in a hurry.
we had to sneak past t... Jun 30 2004, 10:50 AM EmeraldKnight QUOTEoh, but you see. the japanese could have stop... Jun 30 2004, 02:44 PM sadolakced acid i ment militarily wounded.
they were still able... Jun 30 2004, 07:15 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEi ment militarily wounded.
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QUOT... Jul 1 2004, 01:26 AM FlyingFries well......if the US hadn't dropped the two bom... Jul 1 2004, 12:31 PM sadolakced acid the emperor tried to surrender. some people took ... Jul 1 2004, 01:08 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEby the way, the second bomb, fat man, it miss... Jul 1 2004, 08:45 PM Justingamemaster ROCK ON!!
Tom Cruise is in fault for this... Jul 1 2004, 09:18 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEROCK ON!!
Tom Cruise is in fault for... Jul 1 2004, 09:53 PM kryogenix QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ Jul 1 2004, 8:45 PM)And... Jul 2 2004, 09:51 AM NatiMarie QUOTE(kryogenix @ Jul 2 2004, 6:51 AM)because... Jul 3 2004, 12:37 PM sadolakced acid they were going to. but then they kidnapped thier... Jul 3 2004, 05:39 PM CrackedRearView Well, if you want justification in the dropping of... Jul 9 2004, 12:26 PM EmeraldKnight QUOTEWell, if you want justification in the droppi... Jul 9 2004, 01:15 PM sadolakced acid the civilians were.
at okinawa, when the america... Jul 9 2004, 02:36 PM Hell-Rell It was too drastic. They could have used other bom... Jul 25 2005, 09:32 AM mipadi But Japan already knew we could utterly destroy th... Jul 25 2005, 12:33 PM yukichan QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 25 2005, 7:33 AM)But Japan... Jul 26 2005, 03:37 AM sadolakced acid nagasaki sped things up.
the japanese didn't ... Jul 25 2005, 12:56 PM Kristinaa QUOTE(Mr. Psychotic @ Jun 6 2004, 4:51 PM)do ... Jul 25 2005, 01:29 PM Shahin I completely agree with the United States involvem... Jul 25 2005, 11:00 PM sikdragon It helped more than just Japan. It made the world ... Jul 25 2005, 11:39 PM mipadi Arguably for "psychological purposes", b... Jul 26 2005, 12:24 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 26 2005, 12:24 PM)Arguably... Jul 26 2005, 12:32 PM mipadi There was a coup of some military officers that wa... Jul 26 2005, 12:35 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 26 2005, 12:35 PM)There wa... Jul 26 2005, 12:39 PM mipadi QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 26 2005, 1:39 PM)... Jul 26 2005, 12:40 PM sadolakced acid QUOTE(mipadi @ Jul 26 2005, 12:40 PM)I'm ... Jul 26 2005, 12:43 PM mipadi QUOTE(sadolakced acid @ Jul 26 2005, 1:43 PM)... Jul 26 2005, 12:52 PM sadolakced acid ever heard of a guerilla resistance?
just because... Jul 26 2005, 09:35 PM mipadi Actually, I believe you're the one arguing tha... Jul 27 2005, 12:09 PM sadolakced acid oh what, so bombing a military target isn't ju... Jul 27 2005, 05:23 PM |
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