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*suddenly she*
post Apr 11 2007, 08:47 PM
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I don't know where this goes, since there's not a specific debate topic.
Be considerate of others; not everyone believes what you do!

I'm starting the thread off with nondenominational Christianity, because that's my reply when I'm asked what my religion is. Of course, feel free to branch out. I'd be glad to have a reply from anyone just to see what your views are, including people who aren't Christian.

In my opinion, I think Christianity shouldn't be too difficult of a concept and that a lot of churches make things too complicated. These days I think people make it into too much of a "religion" or at least my negative idea of religion. I think it's more of a relationship based on trust and faith... for works, you do what the Bible says out of love and respect, not because you're horribly bound to laws.

I think splitting the church up into so many sections is rather silly and that anyone who loves and worships God and keeps striving to build the relationship is worth being called the same name as another Christian from any other denomination.

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post Apr 12 2007, 06:54 PM
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Well, I can tell you why I am not a Christian.

My main issue is salvation. If a person really does have to be saved, 95% of the world is going to burn in an eternal hell. I just cant believe something like that. What about the six million Jews who died in the Hollocaust? They died for their FAITH, but they still get to burn in hell? Or what about the people in Africa that missionaries dont reach? Or even those who deny Jesus? I dont think God would let his children burn in hell for something like that.

And then there's the sexism. In the Bible, there's numerous stories/verses that refer to WIVES instead of wife. And, that Adam/man is above woman. And what about all the rape in the Bible? I'll have to find the verse, but there's one that talks about if a man rapes a woman, he has to pay her father money and marry her. What say does the woman have in this? Obviously none.

And what about the mass murdering of women and children? There's so many stories where God has "commanded" people to kill innocent people.

And then there's evolution, which someone has already mentioned. yawn.gif
 
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post Apr 12 2007, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 12 2007, 6:54 PM) *
Well, I can tell you why I am not a Christian.

My main issue is salvation. If a person really does have to be saved, 95% of the world is going to burn in an eternal hell. I just cant believe something like that. What about the six million Jews who died in the Hollocaust? They died for their FAITH, but they still get to burn in hell? Or what about the people in Africa that missionaries dont reach? Or even those who deny Jesus? I dont think God would let his children burn in hell for something like that.

And then there's the sexism. In the Bible, there's numerous stories/verses that refer to WIVES instead of wife. And, that Adam/man is above woman. And what about all the rape in the Bible? I'll have to find the verse, but there's one that talks about if a man rapes a woman, he has to pay her father money and marry her. What say does the woman have in this? Obviously none.

And what about the mass murdering of women and children? There's so many stories where God has "commanded" people to kill innocent people.

And then there's evolution, which someone has already mentioned. yawn.gif


^ Perfect example of a different interpretation. I agree with you with what you said.

Interpretations cause people to split because of what they think the Bible tells them to do. Some may look upon those sort of things (polygamy, rape, punishments, mass murdering, etc) as a thing of the past.
In my opinion, those things in the Bible should not effect today because we are a different society and our morals are different (not better or worse). But yet, there are extremists who interpet the Bible exactly as it is.

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post Apr 12 2007, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(mishyerr @ Apr 12 2007, 8:00 PM) *
In my opinion, those things in the Bible should not effect today because we are a different society and our morals are different (not better or worse).
Can't forget, though, that several of the morals that people have even today originate with Christianity.
 
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post Apr 12 2007, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 12 2007, 7:06 PM) *
Can't forget, though, that several of the morals that people have even today originate with Christianity.


Yeah, I know. I meant along the lines of allowing polygamy, etc.
 

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suddenly she   christianity   Apr 11 2007, 08:47 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(suddenly she @ Apr 11 2007, 9:47 PM...   Apr 11 2007, 08:54 PM
a beautiful nothing   Actually the reason why there are separate names, ...   Apr 11 2007, 08:55 PM
salcha4u   QUOTE(suddenly she @ Apr 11 2007, 6:47 PM...   Apr 11 2007, 09:03 PM
.misoshiru   Wouldn't this go under debate? Personally, I...   Apr 11 2007, 09:10 PM
suddenly she   Hi Sally! I actually think the purpose of chur...   Apr 11 2007, 09:44 PM
salcha4u   QUOTE(suddenly she @ Apr 11 2007, 7:44 PM...   Apr 11 2007, 10:08 PM
.misoshiru   QUOTE(suddenly she @ Apr 12 2007, 10:44 A...   Apr 12 2007, 01:54 PM
suddenly she   QUOTE(.misoshiru @ Apr 12 2007, 1:54 PM) ...   Apr 12 2007, 09:42 PM
kimmytree   QUOTE(suddenly she @ Apr 12 2007, 10:42 P...   Apr 13 2007, 10:42 PM
mishyerr   I agree with you, but people will always interpret...   Apr 11 2007, 10:44 PM
catastrophic   QUOTE(suddenly she @ Apr 11 2007, 6:47 PM...   Apr 11 2007, 11:07 PM
kimmytree   Well, I can tell you why I am not a Christian. M...   Apr 12 2007, 06:54 PM
mishyerr   QUOTE(kimmytree @ Apr 12 2007, 6:54 PM) W...   Apr 12 2007, 07:00 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(mishyerr @ Apr 12 2007, 8:00 PM) In...   Apr 12 2007, 07:06 PM
mishyerr   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 12 2007, 7:06...   Apr 12 2007, 07:13 PM
kimmytree   This isnt the verse I was referring to earlier, bu...   Apr 12 2007, 07:35 PM
WHIMSICAL 0NE   Well a lot of reasons why there is different denom...   Apr 12 2007, 09:27 PM
Arjuna Capulong   Man and woman are both human, but they are still t...   Apr 13 2007, 03:38 PM
pinacoolada   I'm Catholic according to my parents... But in...   Apr 14 2007, 12:33 AM
Hakuna Matata   So today in church I totally realize how embarrass...   Apr 21 2007, 11:19 PM
phoenixpyre   Don't shoot me, but I am atheist... I think...   Apr 21 2007, 11:21 PM
Podomaht   GOD HATES FAGS OH AND SWEDEN TOO   Apr 21 2007, 11:23 PM


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