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Bush vs. Kerry: who will win?, you're opinions
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oOyunieOo
post May 17 2004, 11:34 AM
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I personally think it will be a tight race, but I'm not sure America would want to change Presidents in the middle of a war, so I go Bush.
 
 
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ComradeRed
post Jun 10 2004, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(Yemmerz @ Jun 9 2004, 7:15 PM)
Think about what would happen if something like 9-11 occured [God forbid] while Kerry ran? Bush was so calm...he handled it very well I believe. Kerry would of gone on about peace, which is good and all, and how we shouldn't have any military action. We'd be dead by the time he got to his point. Basically what I am saying is that the country doesn't need a president like Kerry while we are dealing with the situation of Iraq. Maybe when everything is resolved....POSSIBLY Kerry can win. But even if we didn't have this whole war situation, Bush would win. Look what he's done for the country Minda PERFECTLY laid out why. You should go past to his post and read it.

You can argue that Bush is a better president, that's fine, but this is Minda, and I firmly believe that Kerry will win. Here's why:

1) Third Party Vote: In some states, the Libertarian and Constitution parties are polling as high as 4 and 5%... this is even higher than Nader did in 2000. What Nader did to Gore in 2000, Badnarik and Petrouka will do to Bush now. Many conservatives (Republicans) have already abandoned the Bush camp, because Bush IS NOT A CONSERVATIVE. In 1992, Bush's dad lost precisely because all the Conservatives voted for Ross Perot. This is what will happen again. The Libertarian Party especially. The LP is twice the size of the Green Party, and Badnarik is popular among many state organizations in the key battlegrounds of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. Many conservatives in those states regard Bush and Kerry as equally bad (un-conservative), and thus will see that voting for either of them is throwing away their vote.

2) War: The Iraq War used to be popular, but now it's not. It's increasingly becoming a quagmire. Some Congressmen have even proposed a draft. Drafts are NEVER popular in America, and one TODAY is going to be even less popular. Even though Kerry supports the draft, people are going to instinctively vote against the war to vote against the draft, and that means against Bush. Bush's approval is in the mid-40s and dropping... this is almost as bad as Jimmy Carter, and Carter was annihilated in a landslide in 1980 by Ronald Reagan.

3) Jobs: Face it. I think outsoucring is good for the economy. But most steel workers don't. If they vote for Kerry, that could turn the key state of Ohio. If Bush loses Ohio, he loses the election.

4) Credibility: Bush might run as an honest, homegrown Southerner, but the fact remains that he broke just about all of his campaign promises. He promised to slash spending. He actually raised social spending more than ANY OTHER PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. He promised a more humble foreign policy. He invaded Iraq, leading to the death of hundreds of American soldiers and untold tens of thousands of Iraqi civilians and human rights atrocities. He promised a balanced budget. We now have a bigger deficit than ever. Read point 1. All the far-right conservatives hate him for all of this.

I think Kerry will not be a good president. I despise Kerry. I despise Bush too, but not as much. But in the end, I think that it is clear that Kerry will win the election.

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oOyunieOo   Bush vs. Kerry: who will win?   May 17 2004, 11:34 AM
WildGriffin   I say Bush. We're in the middle of a war and p...   May 17 2004, 11:49 AM
immersion31   i think kerry, cuz bush has lots of stuff against ...   May 17 2004, 12:32 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEI say Bush. We're in the middle of a war ...   May 17 2004, 01:59 PM
ComradeRed   Here's my prediction: a 286 to 252 win for Ker...   May 17 2004, 02:33 PM
Mireh   I'm not sure. Its going to be fooking tight th...   May 17 2004, 04:04 PM
Kathleen   QUOTEKerry =  You're too cute, Val. I ...   May 17 2004, 04:11 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Mireh @ May 17 2004, 4:04 PM)I'm no...   May 17 2004, 04:11 PM
onenonly101   I think Bush will win, because as much as these vo...   May 17 2004, 04:26 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTEPeople (like myself) are going to vote (bah.....   May 17 2004, 05:00 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 17 2004, 4:26 PM)I th...   May 17 2004, 05:14 PM
WildGriffin   lets hold a vote for who uninspiredfae will vote f...   May 17 2004, 05:25 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 17 2004, 5:25 PM)lets...   May 17 2004, 05:35 PM
onenonly101   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 17 2004, 5:14 PM)Well,...   May 17 2004, 05:45 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(onenonly101 @ May 17 2004, 5:45 PM)Yeah...   May 17 2004, 05:51 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(ComradeRed @ May 17 2004, 5:51 PM)I...   May 17 2004, 05:59 PM
WildGriffin   *clears throat* THEY TUK OUR JERBS!!...   May 17 2004, 06:43 PM
juliar   Bush will win. Republican is tied together, there...   May 17 2004, 07:49 PM
WildGriffin   QUOTEFlorida and Texas are mostly on his side, as ...   May 17 2004, 07:50 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 17 2004, 6:43 PM)THEY...   May 17 2004, 08:27 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(juliar @ May 17 2004, 7:49 PM)Bush will...   May 17 2004, 08:42 PM
CrackedRearView   Kerry says what the people want to hear. Moldable...   May 19 2004, 06:15 PM
AngelicEyz00   i vote kerry... i think bush has a better chance o...   May 19 2004, 06:21 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(juliar @ May 17 2004, 7:49 PM)Bush will...   May 19 2004, 06:22 PM
WhiteChocolate   QUOTE(uninspiredfae @ May 17 2004, 5:00 PM)I...   May 20 2004, 12:35 AM
strice   most of my friends take the stance of, "anyon...   May 20 2004, 12:41 AM
ComradeRed   I wrote a post that no one has rebutted yet. Basic...   May 20 2004, 12:55 PM
AmesBond   I think Bush'll win, not that I care too much ...   May 20 2004, 02:33 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(AmesBond @ May 20 2004, 2:33 PM)I think...   May 20 2004, 02:36 PM
angel-roh   umm i dont read the newspapers for years and plus ...   May 22 2004, 07:36 AM
WildGriffin   QUOTEumm i dont read the newspapers for years and ...   May 22 2004, 09:50 AM
LiNHy POO   personally i dont like bush! bush isnt very op...   May 22 2004, 10:40 AM
pimpin231   i say kerry   May 22 2004, 01:35 PM
EmeraldKnight   I dont follow current politics that much, but I de...   May 22 2004, 02:19 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 22 2004, 2:19 PM)I ...   May 22 2004, 03:51 PM
EmeraldKnight   Clinton left office with a surplus, how is that in...   May 22 2004, 03:51 PM
X serenity   as much as i hate to admit it, i think bush is goi...   May 22 2004, 03:55 PM
Spirited Away   For all my logic, I had to forget Clinton and his ...   May 22 2004, 03:58 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEFor all my logic, I had to forget Clinton and...   May 22 2004, 04:19 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 22 2004, 4:19 PM)oh...   May 22 2004, 04:23 PM
EmeraldKnight   QUOTEI agree that the tax cut was rather reckless ...   May 22 2004, 04:24 PM
Spirited Away   QUOTE(EmeraldKnight @ May 22 2004, 4:24 PM)I ...   May 22 2004, 04:27 PM
EmeraldKnight   because it ultimately hurts the economy and the co...   May 22 2004, 04:32 PM
Spirited Away   That's why I said that it was a contradiction ...   May 22 2004, 04:34 PM
ryfitaDF   OOOOH. i evened the antie. 10 and 10. go me!   May 23 2004, 01:40 PM
EmeraldKnight   and I unevened it   May 23 2004, 01:41 PM
ComradeRed   http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/05/21/...ain61...   May 23 2004, 02:37 PM
EmeraldKnight   Haha, Minda with the daily political update, thank...   May 23 2004, 02:43 PM
justbecausexx   QUOTE(WildGriffin @ May 17 2004, 11:49 AM)I s...   Jun 9 2004, 05:02 PM
T.K.O.   KERRY! oh wait, do u mean the fat old dude, ke...   Jun 9 2004, 05:05 PM
onenonly101   I don't think anyone can say who WILL win, but...   Jun 9 2004, 05:08 PM
ComradeRed   I will bet you any amount of money that Kerry wins...   Jun 9 2004, 05:16 PM
onenonly101   I don't bet, esp on un certain things. It does...   Jun 9 2004, 05:28 PM
ComradeRed   The polls are clearly in favor of Kerry. THe Third...   Jun 9 2004, 05:32 PM
strice   god damnit why hasn't anyone said "I are ...   Jun 9 2004, 06:32 PM
Yemmerz   Think about what would happen if something like 9-...   Jun 9 2004, 07:15 PM
glit_gal   I would like to say kerry, but honestly he doesn...   Jun 9 2004, 09:03 PM
Yemmerz   don't base your vote on... -race -personality ...   Jun 10 2004, 04:18 PM
ComradeRed   QUOTE(Yemmerz @ Jun 9 2004, 7:15 PM)Think abo...   Jun 10 2004, 05:03 PM
Yemmerz   wait i thought you were for bush [?]....gosh im lo...   Jun 10 2004, 05:35 PM
ComradeRed   I'm not for Bush, I'm against Kerry. Simil...   Jun 10 2004, 05:44 PM


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