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Beer! Whisky! Vodka! Wine!, Drinking Age
31miracles
post Jul 5 2006, 07:27 PM
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Should the United States get rid of their drinking age limit like many other countries?

I believe the United States should get rid of the drinking age.
It is actually safer not to have a drinking age. When many people in the U.S. reach the drinking limit, they celebrate by getting dangerously wasted. Countries like France do not have such a big drinking problem like the U.S. because they have no drinking age. Not having a drinking age will allow children to drink. If it's legal to drink, young people will become more mature. They won't have the joy of being a badass drinking underage. In China, almost everyone drinks, and there are a few accidents.

The drinking age in America cause hundred of thousands of people, celebrating being old enough to drink, getting rushed to emergency rooms every year.
 
 
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post Feb 4 2007, 05:59 PM
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this is how i look at it. the drinking age is 21. people can get a permit and get in a car when they are 16. however, it is quite evident that many teenagers can get alcohol whether or not they are 21. so therefore, we have dumb, drunk teens being able to do both drinking and/or driving.

however, if the law was flipped. let's say the drinking age is 18 and the driving age was 21. cars are much harder to obtain than a bottle of beer. therefore, kids would just be drinking without the privilege of a dangerous vehicle.
 
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post Feb 5 2007, 12:44 AM
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QUOTE(Endless_Symphony @ Feb 4 2007, 2:59 PM) *

however, if the law was flipped. let's say the drinking age is 18 and the driving age was 21. cars are much harder to obtain than a bottle of beer. therefore, kids would just be drinking without the privilege of a dangerous vehicle.


I kinda disagree. You say that it's harder to obtain a car..not really...all they have to do is buy one or borrow one from a friend, if they never break the laws of the road and look old enough to drive, chances are they will be able to obtain that vehicle. But of course, if they look under the age or do break the rules of the road..then okay.

Secondly, just because a car isn't involved doesn't mean there isn't other dangers. Lets see theres alcohol poisening possiblities and of course violent acts towards others.

Either way if your behind a vehicle or not, a lot of people are dangerous under the influence of alcohol.
 
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post Feb 11 2007, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(Heath21 @ Feb 5 2007, 12:44 AM) *
I kinda disagree. You say that it's harder to obtain a car..not really...all they have to do is buy one or borrow one from a friend, if they never break the laws of the road and look old enough to drive, chances are they will be able to obtain that vehicle. But of course, if they look under the age or do break the rules of the road..then okay.

Secondly, just because a car isn't involved doesn't mean there isn't other dangers. Lets see theres alcohol poisening possiblities and of course violent acts towards others.

Either way if your behind a vehicle or not, a lot of people are dangerous under the influence of alcohol.


you can't buy a car without massive amounts of money (which most teenagers do not have), a license/insurance/registration, or at least, someone 21+ to back you up (which usually would be your guardian).

as for friends lending their cars to underaged teenagers. highly unlikely. if the underaged teenager gets caught, the lender can potentially go to jail. also, how many drivers you know will give a teenager a car?

a six pack of beer is EXTREMELY different from a two-ton car.

maybe there will be kids who can get cars. however, it would be extraordinarily lower than kids who can get alcohol.

as for the other dangers, it could be applied to adults too. so should be ban for everyone? last time that happened, organized crime and mounds of wasted cash happened.
 
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post Mar 27 2007, 10:36 PM
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QUOTE(Endless_Symphony @ Feb 10 2007, 10:01 PM) *
you can't buy a car without massive amounts of money (which most teenagers do not have), a license/insurance/registration, or at least, someone 21+ to back you up (which usually would be your guardian).

as for friends lending their cars to underaged teenagers. highly unlikely. if the underaged teenager gets caught, the lender can potentially go to jail. also, how many drivers you know will give a teenager a car?

a six pack of beer is EXTREMELY different from a two-ton car.

maybe there will be kids who can get cars. however, it would be extraordinarily lower than kids who can get alcohol.

as for the other dangers, it could be applied to adults too. so should be ban for everyone? last time that happened, organized crime and mounds of wasted cash happened.


Incorrect. What if the parents give them that money. I've seen young teenagers driving around my town in fancy cars, speeding down the highway, I see it all the time. There's always ways to get that money, it doesn't have to come straight from a teenager not only that true most likely they wont get to buy the car but they can have someone else buy the car for them a.k.a parents.

Incorrect. Friends will allow others friends to drive their car. I've seen it happen before. Plus there is a chance that person could also steal there friends car to take a spin.

Yes, true a lot of adults are careless but most adults are more mature when it comes to alcohol for the most part, I am sure the percentage of teens with alcohol is probably a lot higher then adults. But that's just my opinion.

Yes, alcohol is different then a car but the thing is both can kill you. Cars=car accidents especially when alcohol is involved and alcohol can cause severe brain damage or even death, hence "alcohol poisening".






QUOTE(crzyass145 @ Mar 26 2007, 6:22 PM) *
f**k yeah. no drinkin age. its tru tht many ppl get hospitalized or even die when they hit 21 cuz they are finally able 2 legally drink. and then i wont get in troubble @ parties any more.
no drinkin age like in argentina is better. thts why im goin ova tha summer.


I used to know someone that got hospitalized for drinking too much in one night, he almost lost his life (I don't think you'd be laughing or even saying what your saying now if you were in his position) oh and I also read in an article a 15 year old lost her life to binge drinking from alcohol poisening.
 
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post Mar 28 2007, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 27 2007, 11:36 PM) *
Incorrect. What if the parents give them that money. I've seen young teenagers driving around my town in fancy cars, speeding down the highway, I see it all the time. There's always ways to get that money, it doesn't have to come straight from a teenager not only that true most likely they wont get to buy the car but they can have someone else buy the car for them a.k.a parents.

Incorrect. Friends will allow others friends to drive their car. I've seen it happen before. Plus there is a chance that person could also steal there friends car to take a spin.

Yes, true a lot of adults are careless but most adults are more mature when it comes to alcohol for the most part, I am sure the percentage of teens with alcohol is probably a lot higher then adults. But that's just my opinion.

Yes, alcohol is different then a car but the thing is both can kill you. Cars=car accidents especially when alcohol is involved and alcohol can cause severe brain damage or even death, hence "alcohol poisening".
I used to know someone that got hospitalized for drinking too much in one night, he almost lost his life (I don't think you'd be laughing or even saying what your saying now if you were in his position) oh and I also read in an article a 15 year old lost her life to binge drinking from alcohol poisening.



a car is still nevertheless harder to get than alcohol. maybe it's because we're from different places. i'm from nyc and most parents would not get a car for their kids here. insurance in the city is extremely expensive. and not that many kids know how to hot wire a car.

and adults are not more mature. there are alcoholics for a reason. there are adults out there who can't go through the day without their daily gin and tonic. alcohol is a dangerous substance. anyone at any age can fall victim to it.

here's the thing. i advocate a reasonable drinking age (18) and a higher driving age (21). someone binge drinking only (most often) does harm to themselves. it's their fault for drinking so much. but with a car, they potentially become a threat to everyone and themselves.

Alcohol involvement (AI)* among young drivers under age 21 and drivers ages 21 and older in fatal traffic crashes, United States, 1982–2004.

Adults get into MUCH more car crashes... why? cause they can drive AND drink at the same time. which is why the drinking age should be lower than the driving age. because if the driving age is earlier, teenagers can do both at the same time because it's quite easy to get alcohol. however, if they can only drink, it would drastically reduce the amount of alcohol related car crash fatalities because a car is harder to obtain than a giant bottle of grey goose.

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Because I've seen it and I've been around adults and young teenagers.

just cause you've seen it doesn't mean it applies to the entire nation. you hang out with people your age and only see them consume alcohol. there's also adults at bars and taverns and pubs. adults you have wine/beer/alcohol with their dinner.
 

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cvchango   Beer! Whisky! Vodka! Wine!   Jul 5 2006, 07:27 PM
ECD & C0   my parents said i can drink at home when im 18 bec...   Jul 5 2006, 09:18 PM
snak3y3z1001   i honestly believe they should lower it to at leas...   Jul 5 2006, 10:36 PM
oRe0_c00KiE_cAkE   QUOTE(snak3y3z1001 @ Jul 5 2006, 7:36 PM)...   Mar 31 2007, 04:06 PM
Kristinaa   ^ Seriously. It used to be at 18. What the heck ha...   Jul 5 2006, 10:38 PM
one_and_only   no way... gosh that would cause soo many more prob...   Jul 5 2006, 10:44 PM
Endless_Symphony   QUOTE(one_and_only @ Jul 5 2006, 11:44 PM...   Jul 5 2006, 11:12 PM
Paradox of Life   QUOTE(one_and_only @ Jul 5 2006, 10:44 PM...   Jul 9 2006, 01:36 PM
Anna Banana =}   QUOTE(one_and_only @ Jul 5 2006, 10:44 PM...   Jan 27 2007, 09:38 AM
oX_Muh_Nirvana_Xo   I think it should be lowerd to 18 but the people h...   Jul 5 2006, 11:21 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   i believe so. there was little kids who look at ...   Jul 6 2006, 02:54 AM
yanners   what do you mean by "it's safer not to ha...   Jul 6 2006, 09:17 AM
Angelina Taylor   What? Places like France DO have a drinking age. ...   Jul 6 2006, 02:36 PM
cvchango   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 6 2006, 3:36 ...   Jul 6 2006, 05:01 PM
I Shot JFK   I dont have a great deal of opinion on this issue....   Jul 6 2006, 03:54 PM
one_and_only   QUOTE^but that irresponsible attitude is because y...   Jul 6 2006, 04:29 PM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(one_and_only @ Jul 6 2006, 10:29 PM...   Jul 6 2006, 05:10 PM
one_and_only   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jul 6 2006, 3:10 PM) n...   Jul 7 2006, 09:58 PM
Endless_Symphony   QUOTE(one_and_only @ Jul 6 2006, 5:29 PM)...   Jul 6 2006, 08:05 PM
KUBANO   is this where the beer is ?   Jul 6 2006, 05:03 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jul 6 2006, 6:10 PM) n...   Jul 6 2006, 05:26 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   ^ does that include to france?   Jul 6 2006, 09:29 PM
magicfann   my cousins and uncles nd shit always press me to d...   Jul 6 2006, 09:34 PM
ECD & C0   QUOTEi honestly believe they should lower it to at...   Jul 7 2006, 07:30 PM
I Shot JFK   ^ im sorry, but i am responsible for my own action...   Jul 8 2006, 02:02 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(I Shot JFK @ Jul 8 2006, 3:02 PM) ^...   Jul 8 2006, 03:25 PM
iRock cB   I've always liked the way Germans do it. At 14...   Jul 8 2006, 04:17 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 8 2006, 5:17 PM) Man...   Jul 8 2006, 06:30 PM
iRock cB   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Jul 8 2006, 7:30 ...   Jul 8 2006, 11:46 PM
ECD & C0   ^-- AGREED   Jul 9 2006, 12:39 PM
RiC3xBoy   Well it could go either way. Drinking would either...   Jul 9 2006, 12:45 PM
starlette   when it comes down to it, if its not illegal, its ...   Jul 9 2006, 12:52 PM
ryfitaDF   i say legalise it. along with weed and cigarettes....   Jul 9 2006, 12:55 PM
iRock cB   QUOTE(ryfitaDF @ Jul 9 2006, 1:55 PM) i s...   Jul 14 2006, 07:16 PM
I Shot JFK   ^ linking to that, the libralization laws in switz...   Jul 9 2006, 03:53 PM
cashmere deer   Yes and No. Yes because it does eliminate the whol...   Jul 13 2006, 06:22 PM
one_and_only   QUOTESo because drinking is allowed to people unde...   Jul 15 2006, 12:28 AM
iRock cB   ^ I'm not sure how you came up with that logic...   Jul 16 2006, 10:26 AM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 16 2006, 11:26 AM) ^...   Jul 16 2006, 09:55 PM
RiC3xBoy   I dont buy it either. Sure, if take away the glori...   Jul 16 2006, 10:50 PM
cvchango   QUOTE(RiC3xBoy @ Jul 16 2006, 10:50 PM) I...   Jan 15 2007, 06:10 PM
.fire   QUOTE(cvchango @ Jan 16 2007, 10:10 AM) d...   Jan 17 2007, 02:01 AM
iRock cB   ^ Yeah, that's almost exactly what I just said...   Jul 17 2006, 02:30 AM
I Shot JFK   QUOTE(iRock cB @ Jul 17 2006, 8:30 AM) ^ ...   Jul 17 2006, 11:53 AM
Angelina Taylor   ^ You might be right, but I still doubt it.   Jul 17 2006, 11:14 AM
ECD & C0   QUOTEI think it should be lowerd to 18 but the peo...   Jul 17 2006, 11:41 AM
BrandonSaunders   I'm in Japan at the moment. If you look old en...   Jan 16 2007, 09:19 PM
BrandonSaunders   ^well put   Jan 17 2007, 02:15 AM
mai_z   If anyone's got any statistics and studies (wi...   Jan 17 2007, 06:11 PM
flaymzofice   I can't be arsed to read every single post; I...   Jan 17 2007, 06:35 PM
Shortnsweet88   I do not believe that we should lower the drinking...   Jan 17 2007, 06:39 PM
one_and_only   ok. alcohol is poison. it hurts your body, and im...   Jan 26 2007, 10:59 PM
Heath21   This is actually a hard subject, I kinda think bot...   Jan 27 2007, 03:51 AM
priyas   QUOTEno way... gosh that would cause soo many more...   Jan 29 2007, 09:36 PM
mishyerr   I agree. Prohibition did NOTHING but bring up in...   Jan 29 2007, 09:38 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(cvchango @ Jul 5 2006, 7:27 PM) Sho...   Jan 31 2007, 01:56 AM
mishyerr   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Jan 31 2007, 2:56 AM) W...   Jan 31 2007, 09:39 PM
Endless_Symphony   this is how i look at it. the drinking age is 21. ...   Feb 4 2007, 05:59 PM
mishyerr   QUOTE(Endless_Symphony @ Feb 4 2007, 6:59...   Feb 4 2007, 10:49 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Endless_Symphony @ Feb 4 2007, 2:59...   Feb 5 2007, 12:44 AM
Endless_Symphony   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Feb 5 2007, 12:44 AM) I k...   Feb 11 2007, 12:01 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(Endless_Symphony @ Feb 10 2007, 10...   Mar 27 2007, 10:36 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 27 2007, 11:36 PM) Ye...   Mar 27 2007, 11:08 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Mar 27 2007, 9:08...   Mar 27 2007, 11:10 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 28 2007, 12:10 AM) I...   Mar 28 2007, 06:33 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(Angelina Taylor @ Mar 28 2007, 4:33...   Mar 28 2007, 01:43 PM
Angelina Taylor   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 28 2007, 2:43 PM) Bec...   Mar 28 2007, 06:30 PM
Endless_Symphony   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 27 2007, 11:36 PM) In...   Mar 28 2007, 04:57 PM
JakeKKing   Well, just because I don't follow it doesn...   Feb 5 2007, 12:14 AM
JakeKKing   ^ Yeah, seriously. I know a kid who was 14 and dri...   Feb 5 2007, 02:17 AM
electric shock   your brain matures at the average age of 21. i saw...   Feb 5 2007, 02:39 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(electric shock @ Feb 4 2007, 11:39 ...   Feb 5 2007, 03:16 PM
electric shock   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Feb 5 2007, 12:16 PM) I t...   Feb 5 2007, 07:05 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(electric shock @ Feb 5 2007, 4:05 P...   Feb 5 2007, 07:16 PM
azndreamer   I personally think that we are focusing on the wro...   Feb 5 2007, 05:37 PM
electric shock   okay, maybe i'm just wording it really badly b...   Feb 5 2007, 09:08 PM
satori in paris   I feel like a lot of underage teens drink because ...   Feb 6 2007, 12:44 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(satori in paris @ Feb 5 2007, 9:44 ...   Feb 6 2007, 01:52 AM
A Pair Of Irish Eyes   People always want what they can not have. With a ...   Feb 8 2007, 05:32 AM
gita   it's such a touchy subject. my grandpa was an ...   Feb 11 2007, 12:05 AM
one_and_only   QUOTEas for the other dangers, it could be applied...   Feb 19 2007, 11:37 PM
Endless_Symphony   QUOTE(one_and_only @ Feb 19 2007, 11:37 P...   Feb 20 2007, 12:00 AM
one_and_only   ^yeah. thats what i said in my earlier post QUOTE...   Feb 20 2007, 11:43 PM
crzyass145   f**k yeah. no drinkin age. its tru tht many ppl ge...   Mar 26 2007, 08:22 PM
Joss-eh-lime   QUOTE(crzyass145 @ Mar 26 2007, 05:22 PM)...   Aug 7 2007, 09:53 PM
Heath21   When I say in general or when I was talking about ...   Mar 28 2007, 11:40 PM
Endless_Symphony   that's because news is selective. they are goi...   Mar 28 2007, 11:54 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Endless_Symphony @ Mar 28 2007, 9:5...   Mar 31 2007, 03:23 PM
WickedDreamer   QUOTE(cvchango @ Jul 5 2006, 7:27 PM) If...   Mar 29 2007, 12:02 AM
cvchango   QUOTE(WickedDreamer @ Mar 29 2007, 1:02 A...   Apr 16 2007, 07:31 PM
cvchango   thanks for everyone's input I started this to...   Apr 16 2007, 07:49 PM
Seraphim9   in ohio it used to be 16 or 18 i think. my mom and...   Apr 22 2007, 05:49 PM
NYCin2009   I agree that a lowered drinking age would make dri...   Jun 2 2007, 11:37 PM
Amechi   i say either no drinking age limit or put her down...   Jun 3 2007, 11:24 AM
-p0oki3-   laws are being retarded. ppo who propose laws shou...   Jun 11 2007, 06:00 PM
nishikigoi   ioono if anyone mentioned it, but it has to do wit...   Jun 13 2007, 09:17 PM
1angel3   I think UNITED STATES (I mean as a whole) is to IM...   Jun 13 2007, 09:21 PM
nishikigoi   QUOTE(1angel3 @ Jun 13 2007, 07:21 PM) I ...   Jun 13 2007, 09:45 PM
xgivemethecityx   i dont think the drinking age shuold be lower just...   Jun 28 2007, 12:37 PM
N3RDYY   well by the time your 18 you get wasted ANYWAYS. s...   Aug 7 2007, 09:54 PM
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