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Transmigration, Also known as: Reincarnation
Simba
post Mar 15 2007, 04:17 PM
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The last previous reincarnation thread has grown a little old, and I'd like to see some fresh input on subject.

Some points I'd like to see hit:
  • Whether reincarnation even exists or not
  • The who, the what, the how, and the whys of reincarnation
  • How the idea automatically requires that we are an eternal soul and not the bodies
  • Karmic reaction
  • Transmigrating from a human to an animal, and vice versa
  • When the reincarnation cycle will end
  • Clinical death and children recalling their pasts
  • Heaven and Hell and reincarnation
  • Reincarnation in Christianity and other religions
Though, perhaps not all at once. And that's probably not all of them either, just the ones that I could think of off the top of my head.
 
 
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post Mar 15 2007, 04:57 PM
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QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 15 2007, 5:21 PM) *
Hmmm, not sure on this topic but you mentioned Chrisitianity and reincarnation so I'll respond with that one. I never really believed in reincarnation even before I was a Christian, I always believed in God. I believe that after you die you go 2 places, Heaven or Hell, nowhere else...yes demons are on earth and so are certain angels, but really after you die, theres only 2 places you could go.
Well, since you're Christian, I'm assuming you follow the Bible.

Reincarnation in the Bible:
Jesus asks:
"Who do the people say I am?" They, answering, said "John the Baptist; but some say Elias, and others say that one of the old prophets is risen again."
-- Luke 9:18-19
This is saying that Jesus could have been existent as another person during another time. Possible through reincarnation, of course.


Jesus also directly mentions reincarnation when he tells John the Baptist that he was a reincarnation of Elias:
And Jesus answered and said unto them, "Elias truly shall first come and restore all things. But first I say unto you that Elias has come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they wanted. Likewise shall also the son of man suffer of them." Then the disciples understood that he spoke unto them of John the Baptist.
-- Matthew 17:11-13
This would be Jesus saying that John the Baptist was the same person who once appeared as Elias, but this time appearing with a different name and a different body.

Thus, reincarnation was accepted by even Jesus.
 
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post Mar 21 2007, 07:24 PM
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QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 15 2007, 1:57 PM) *
Well, since you're Christian, I'm assuming you follow the Bible.

Reincarnation in the Bible:
Jesus asks:
"Who do the people say I am?" They, answering, said "John the Baptist; but some say Elias, and others say that one of the old prophets is risen again."
-- Luke 9:18-19
This is saying that Jesus could have been existent as another person during another time. Possible through reincarnation, of course.
Jesus also directly mentions reincarnation when he tells John the Baptist that he was a reincarnation of Elias:
And Jesus answered and said unto them, "Elias truly shall first come and restore all things. But first I say unto you that Elias has come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they wanted. Likewise shall also the son of man suffer of them." Then the disciples understood that he spoke unto them of John the Baptist.
-- Matthew 17:11-13
This would be Jesus saying that John the Baptist was the same person who once appeared as Elias, but this time appearing with a different name and a different body.

Thus, reincarnation was accepted by even Jesus.


no. he makes no refrence to reincarnation. he's challenging the people to understand who he his
 

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Arjuna Capulong   Transmigration   Mar 15 2007, 04:17 PM
Heath21   Hmmm, not sure on this topic but you mentioned Chr...   Mar 15 2007, 04:21 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 15 2007, 5:21 PM) Hmm...   Mar 15 2007, 04:57 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 15 2007, 2:57...   Mar 16 2007, 02:36 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 16 2007, 3:36 AM) No,...   Mar 16 2007, 12:06 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 16 2007, 10:06 AM) ...   Mar 16 2007, 03:27 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 16 2007, 4:27 PM) It ...   Mar 16 2007, 04:55 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 16 2007, 12:03 AM) ...   Mar 16 2007, 05:02 PM
Carpe_Diem   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 16 2007, 3:02...   Mar 19 2007, 01:22 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(Carpe_Diem @ Mar 19 2007, 2:22 PM) ...   Mar 19 2007, 03:12 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 16 2007, 6:02...   Mar 23 2007, 06:07 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 23 2007, 4:07 PM) B...   Mar 24 2007, 05:15 PM
one_and_only   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 15 2007, 1:57...   Mar 21 2007, 07:24 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(one_and_only @ Mar 21 2007, 8:24 PM...   Mar 21 2007, 07:36 PM
JakeKKing   The idea is sort of practical in a scientific sens...   Mar 15 2007, 06:15 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 15 2007, 7:15 PM) H...   Mar 15 2007, 07:22 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 15 2007, 8:22...   Mar 15 2007, 11:03 PM
Arjuna Capulong   God =/= Bible (Basically, even if the Bible contra...   Mar 26 2007, 08:30 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 26 2007, 6:30...   Mar 27 2007, 10:26 PM
Arjuna Capulong   ^ Well, wasn't it a bunch of humans that ultim...   Mar 28 2007, 04:25 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 28 2007, 2:25...   Mar 28 2007, 11:43 PM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 29 2007, 12:43 AM) Je...   Apr 2 2007, 01:07 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Apr 1 2007, 11:07...   Apr 6 2007, 11:02 PM
GhEtTo_DuChEsS   Reincarnation, is in the Hindu religion... ummm my...   Apr 5 2007, 07:27 PM


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