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Why are black people, called African American?
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post Feb 20 2007, 11:29 AM
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I never really liked the term African American, first of all because its just an easy way out instead of calling a person black. Because saying some one is black is closely related to racism, some how.

Technically all people who come from Africa aren't black. If you're Egyptian and you live in America, what are you?

Another problem is that if you're born in the US and you're black, then you're not at all African American. That term only denotes that you previously resided in Africa and moved to the US.

Please discuss to further my knowledge and understanding. Thank you. Oh, and if there is already a topic about this, then close this one. Thank you.
 
 
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post Mar 16 2007, 11:41 AM
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^ Well, someone has to be described some how. If I'm the only "white" girl standing with a group of people of another race, how else would I be reffered to as? Like if someone was talking about me with someone else, they would refer to me as like "the white girl over there". Or Caucasian, whatever. Instead of that, reffering to one as being "light skinned" just sounds weird to me. So what's wrong with calling a Caucasian white, or someone black? I dont think its any different that describing someone by their hair color. Like, saying "the guy over there with the long brown hair".

I know if I was talking to someone about a black person, and they were standing where we could see them, I'd tell the person that "its that black girl over there". Nothing racist implied. But what If I referred to her as being African American? What if she isnt? "Black" wouldnt really be offending, at least I hope not, because I wouldnt have to worry about getting her exact country of orgin correct. Same with calling someone white, you wouldnt have to worry about figuring out if they were a European American, a South American - American (lol), a Russian American, ect. ect.

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That's awesome. It's stereotypical because we're fitting a group of people into this boundary and it's not always necessarily so.

Then how do you suggest people go about describing a person?

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I have a question then... Is it possible for a white person to be African American?

Yes, it is. Dave Matthews is from South America. Therefore African American.

But we stereotype people when we call them African American because we assume they are from an African heritage. Not always the case. So, is it right to call some one African American out of ignorance?

Okay. So if its proper to refer to a black person as being African American, then in return we should refer to whites as European Americans, correct? That seems to be what you're implying. Dave Matthews is white, so then the typical stereotype then for him would be European American instead of White. But Dave Matthews ISNT a European American. He's an African American. So how the hell is someone who just seems him on the street supposed to guess that he's indeed a African instead of European? Thats why we shouldnt have to refer to someone as "African American" or "European American". Its like an offensive guessing game.
 
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post Mar 18 2007, 03:55 AM
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QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 16 2007, 9:41 AM) *
^ Well, someone has to be described some how. If I'm the only "white" girl standing with a group of people of another race, how else would I be reffered to as? Like if someone was talking about me with someone else, they would refer to me as like "the white girl over there". Or Caucasian, whatever. Instead of that, reffering to one as being "light skinned" just sounds weird to me. So what's wrong with calling a Caucasian white, or someone black? I dont think its any different that describing someone by their hair color. Like, saying "the guy over there with the long brown hair".

I know if I was talking to someone about a black person, and they were standing where we could see them, I'd tell the person that "its that black girl over there". Nothing racist implied. But what If I referred to her as being African American? What if she isnt? "Black" wouldnt really be offending, at least I hope not, because I wouldnt have to worry about getting her exact country of orgin correct. Same with calling someone white, you wouldnt have to worry about figuring out if they were a European American, a South American - American (lol), a Russian American, ect. ect.
Then how do you suggest people go about describing a person?
Okay. So if its proper to refer to a black person as being African American, then in return we should refer to whites as European Americans, correct? That seems to be what you're implying. Dave Matthews is white, so then the typical stereotype then for him would be European American instead of White. But Dave Matthews ISNT a European American. He's an African American. So how the hell is someone who just seems him on the street supposed to guess that he's indeed a African instead of European? Thats why we shouldnt have to refer to someone as "African American" or "European American". Its like an offensive guessing game.


Ok answer me this. What if the whole group were white or maybe only black. How would you announce a certain person then since you can't do it upon color?
 

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JakeKKing   Why are black people   Feb 20 2007, 11:29 AM
Endless_Symphony   the reason why many people think the term black is...   Feb 20 2007, 12:09 PM
mishyerr   I'm not exactly sure why some "African-Am...   Feb 20 2007, 08:52 PM
JakeKKing   But it's racist when they say we cant say that...   Feb 20 2007, 09:19 PM
WHIMSICAL 0NE   ^ It's not always one sided. If they throw rac...   Feb 20 2007, 09:28 PM
one_and_only   I think its because all black people in America ha...   Feb 20 2007, 11:38 PM
JakeKKing   There aren't different races. We're all hu...   Feb 20 2007, 11:40 PM
mishyerr   Hmm, you may see it that way, but others don't...   Feb 21 2007, 08:44 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(mishyerr @ Feb 21 2007, 8:44 PM) Hm...   Feb 22 2007, 12:56 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(mishyerr @ Feb 21 2007, 8:44 PM) Hm...   Feb 27 2007, 01:45 AM
Madame C   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 20 2007, 4:29 PM) I...   Feb 21 2007, 11:20 PM
pandamonium   thats a good question. its because you still want ...   Feb 22 2007, 01:59 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Feb 22 2007, 1:59 AM)...   Feb 22 2007, 03:38 AM
pandamonium   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 3:38 AM) R...   Feb 22 2007, 03:45 AM
JakeKKing   I'm just trying to make a point here. We sho...   Feb 22 2007, 03:55 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 9:55 AM) I...   Feb 22 2007, 08:27 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Feb 22 2007, 8:27 AM) Th...   Feb 22 2007, 11:36 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 5:36 PM) Y...   Feb 22 2007, 12:23 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Feb 22 2007, 12:23 PM) T...   Feb 22 2007, 03:10 PM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 9:10 PM) O...   Feb 22 2007, 04:16 PM
Madame C   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 5:56 AM) B...   Feb 22 2007, 07:13 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Madame C @ Feb 22 2007, 7:13 AM) ...   Feb 22 2007, 07:53 AM
Lil_Cloud   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 20 2007, 10:40 PM) ...   Feb 23 2007, 01:01 AM
Frénésie   Probably because majority, if not all black people...   Feb 23 2007, 05:43 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Frénésie @ Feb 23 2007, 5:43 AM) Pr...   Feb 23 2007, 06:05 AM
Frénésie   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 23 2007, 12:05 PM) ...   Feb 23 2007, 09:57 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(Frénésie @ Feb 23 2007, 11:43 AM) A...   Feb 23 2007, 08:18 AM
Kurd Jam   I think we're on different pages here. I was a...   Feb 23 2007, 12:36 PM
Frénésie   QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Feb 23 2007, 6:36 PM) I ...   Feb 24 2007, 03:00 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(Frénésie @ Feb 24 2007, 9:00 AM) Ha...   Feb 24 2007, 04:48 PM
happykmd   QUOTEIf I call some one a 'Nigga' why is t...   Feb 23 2007, 04:27 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(happykmd @ Feb 23 2007, 4:27 PM) Ok...   Feb 23 2007, 05:44 PM
Monochrome.   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 23 2007, 10:44 PM) ...   Feb 23 2007, 06:26 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Monochrome. @ Feb 23 2007, 6:26 PM)...   Feb 23 2007, 09:19 PM
Monochrome.   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 24 2007, 2:19 AM) ...   Feb 24 2007, 09:50 AM
happykmd   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 23 2007, 5:44 PM) I...   Feb 23 2007, 10:52 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(happykmd @ Feb 23 2007, 10:52 PM) T...   Feb 24 2007, 12:19 AM
Madame C   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 8:55 AM) T...   Feb 23 2007, 06:07 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   I dont see the terms as racist. I wouldnt even con...   Feb 23 2007, 06:33 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   I guess she mean that ... people should be more co...   Feb 24 2007, 02:21 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Feb 24 2007, 2...   Feb 24 2007, 02:47 AM
Frénésie   Oh my God. I actually understood that. I'm goi...   Feb 24 2007, 05:13 PM
Kurd Jam   .... D: The "races" division amongst hu...   Feb 24 2007, 05:24 PM
xoxo_koala_kisses_   Black people get offended when they're called ...   Feb 25 2007, 11:33 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(xoxo_koala_kisses_ @ Feb 25 2007, 11...   Feb 25 2007, 01:11 PM
kayceeisms   QUOTE(xoxo_koala_kisses_ @ Feb 25 2007, 8...   Feb 25 2007, 08:11 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(kayceeisms @ Feb 25 2007, 8:11 PM) ...   Feb 26 2007, 05:40 AM
just_rissa   Egyptians in American are called Egyptians. I don...   Feb 26 2007, 05:48 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(just_rissa @ Feb 26 2007, 5:48 AM) ...   Feb 26 2007, 08:30 AM
happykmd   ^ There's nothing wrong with considering yours...   Feb 26 2007, 08:38 PM
showme   josh is an idiot Image removed. - tic tac.   Feb 28 2007, 09:42 PM
Heath21   People don't like the term "black" b...   Mar 14 2007, 02:51 AM
happykmd   ^ But, the people I know who are like that still i...   Mar 14 2007, 04:39 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 14 2007, 2:39 PM) ^ ...   Mar 14 2007, 09:17 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 10:17 PM) We...   Mar 15 2007, 01:08 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 14 2007, 11:08 PM) ...   Mar 15 2007, 01:14 AM
a beautiful nothing   QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 14 2007, 5:39 PM) So...   Mar 19 2007, 12:51 AM
happykmd   QUOTE(a beautiful nothing @ Mar 19 2007, 1...   Mar 19 2007, 10:31 AM
JakeKKing   I have a question then... Is it possible for a whi...   Mar 14 2007, 08:39 PM
xoxo_koala_kisses_   ^ Yeah I guess, if they're from Africa, then w...   Mar 14 2007, 08:40 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(xoxo_koala_kisses_ @ Mar 14 2007, 9...   Mar 14 2007, 08:46 PM
xoxo_koala_kisses_   True dat. I've come to find out that a bunch a...   Mar 14 2007, 08:57 PM
black_heart   there are so many negative connatations with the w...   Mar 15 2007, 01:22 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(black_heart @ Mar 14 2007, 11:22 PM...   Mar 15 2007, 01:29 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(black_heart @ Mar 15 2007, 2:22 AM)...   Mar 15 2007, 02:32 AM
kayceeisms   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 14 2007, 11:32 PM) ...   Mar 15 2007, 10:37 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(kayceeisms @ Mar 15 2007, 11:37 PM)...   Mar 15 2007, 10:53 PM
black_heart   idk it only bothers me when people generalize. LIK...   Mar 15 2007, 10:30 PM
My Cinderella.   I guess that's just how society taught us to a...   Mar 15 2007, 10:36 PM
happykmd   ^ Well, someone has to be described some how. If I...   Mar 16 2007, 11:41 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 16 2007, 12:41 PM) ^...   Mar 17 2007, 11:39 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 16 2007, 9:41 AM) ^ ...   Mar 18 2007, 03:55 AM
happykmd   ^ Then I guess you would be specific. Like, ...   Mar 18 2007, 10:47 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 18 2007, 8:47 AM) ^ ...   Mar 18 2007, 08:52 PM
happykmd   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 18 2007, 9:52 PM) Sti...   Mar 18 2007, 09:07 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 18 2007, 7:07 PM) Ho...   Mar 18 2007, 09:37 PM
Mr. Slowjamz   i love Dave Chappelle .   Mar 18 2007, 08:50 PM
Arjuna Capulong   "Black" people aren't black. ...   Mar 18 2007, 08:54 PM
happykmd   ^ I dont see how that's any different than cat...   Mar 18 2007, 09:47 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 18 2007, 7:47 PM) ^ ...   Mar 18 2007, 09:50 PM
happykmd   Not all blacks were slaves. I definately think its...   Mar 18 2007, 09:53 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 18 2007, 7:53 PM) No...   Mar 18 2007, 09:55 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 18 2007, 10:55 PM) It...   Mar 19 2007, 12:41 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 18 2007, 10:41 PM) ...   Mar 19 2007, 12:43 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 19 2007, 1:43 AM) Yes...   Mar 19 2007, 12:53 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 18 2007, 10:53 PM) ...   Mar 19 2007, 01:08 AM
black_heart   well my skin isnt black end of story. call me some...   Mar 19 2007, 01:13 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(black_heart @ Mar 18 2007, 11:13 PM...   Mar 19 2007, 01:18 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(black_heart @ Mar 19 2007, 2:13 AM)...   Mar 19 2007, 01:23 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 18 2007, 11:23 PM) ...   Mar 19 2007, 01:25 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 19 2007, 2:25 AM) How...   Mar 19 2007, 03:11 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 19 2007, 2:25 AM) How...   Mar 19 2007, 10:51 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(mipadi @ Mar 19 2007, 8:51 AM) Hati...   Mar 19 2007, 11:01 AM
mipadi   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 19 2007, 12:01 PM) I ...   Mar 19 2007, 11:02 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 19 2007, 12:01 PM) I ...   Mar 19 2007, 11:09 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 19 2007, 9:09 AM) Y...   Mar 19 2007, 11:16 AM
Arjuna Capulong   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 19 2007, 12:16 PM) Ok...   Mar 19 2007, 03:35 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 19 2007, 1:35...   Mar 20 2007, 12:02 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 19 2007, 12:16 PM) Ok...   Mar 20 2007, 12:05 AM
happykmd   ^ Hmm. Well, all of my black friends perfer to be ...   Mar 19 2007, 11:24 AM
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