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 Mar 13 2007, 01:20 PM
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 Jake - The Unholy Trinity / Premiscuous Poeteer.  Group: Member Posts: 1,272 Joined: May 2006 Member No: 411,316  |
How do you feel about lying? Is it ever good? Or just plain bad?
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Mar 15 2007, 03:36 AM
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Jake - The Unholy Trinity / Premiscuous Poeteer. Group: Member Posts: 1,272 Joined: May 2006 Member No: 411,316 |
Well, it's not God's plan for us to murder, so why would it be okay for Abraham?
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Mar 15 2007, 03:54 AM
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QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 15 2007, 1:36 AM)  Well, it's not God's plan for us to murder, so why would it be okay for Abraham? Because it was a test of his Faith and because well he didn't murder, God stopped him. He didn't allow the murder to happen. |
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Mar 15 2007, 06:29 AM
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Jake - The Unholy Trinity / Premiscuous Poeteer. Group: Member Posts: 1,272 Joined: May 2006 Member No: 411,316 |
QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 15 2007, 4:54 AM) Because it was a test of his Faith and because well he didn't murder, God stopped him. He didn't allow the murder to happen. I'm sorry... What does this have to do with lying? Ha  ha I lost track. |
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Mar 15 2007, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 15 2007, 4:29 AM) I'm sorry... What does this have to do with lying? Ha ha I lost track. I would try to explain that but my head is hurting lol....ok back to the debate. QUOTE(issey miyake @ Mar 15 2007, 1:37 PM) i don't get it heath, back to jakes question about harboring innocent people in your basement and someone knocks on the door and asks if they were there. given this circumstance, say that they were innocent and were hiding for a reason, to protect their lives or something, you would not lie to protect their life? and this god you speak of, will protect them from danger? if you could lie JUST this one time to save their life, you wouldn't? just in my opinion, it depends on the situation. like lying to protect someone, is still a lie but i consider that a good deed in my eyes. I really don't know it's a hard one because I know in the Bible it says not to lie but of course people do that all the time but I guess if I was doing it for a good reason God wouldn't punish me for it. Yes, God would protect them if thats what's suppose to happen. Sometimes, it's our times to die. |
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Mar 15 2007, 06:28 PM
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Jake - The Unholy Trinity / Premiscuous Poeteer. Group: Member Posts: 1,272 Joined: May 2006 Member No: 411,316 |
QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 15 2007, 4:50 PM) I would try to explain that but my head is hurting lol....ok back to the debate. I really don't know it's a hard one because I know in the Bible it says not to lie but of course people do that all the time but I guess if I was doing it for a good reason God wouldn't punish me for it. Yes, God would protect them if thats what's suppose to happen. Sometimes, it's our times to die. Listen, Heath. You're a Christian. By what I've heard you're pretty new in this faith. It's good that you're trying to follow God's principles to the tee, but you have to realize that there are special circumstances for a lot of things that God mentions. Such as this. We are humans. It's human nature to be deceitful. He knows that. God cannot be disappointed because he knows our hearts. He knows we aren't perfect and that we screw up. It's normal. You have to know that lying to protect some one's life is perfectly fine. |
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Mar 15 2007, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 15 2007, 4:28 PM) Listen, Heath. You're a Christian. By what I've heard you're pretty new in this faith. It's good that you're trying to follow God's principles to the tee, but you have to realize that there are special circumstances for a lot of things that God mentions. Such as this. We are humans. It's human nature to be deceitful. He knows that. God cannot be disappointed because he knows our hearts. He knows we aren't perfect and that we screw up. It's normal. You have to know that lying to protect some one's life is perfectly fine. Yes, I'm a Christian, I am not really new to it though, I've been a Christian for almost 2 years but I have slipped away from God several times but not counting those times it's been 2 years or so since I submitted my life to him. I understand no one is perfect and we all fall short of God's glory and that were going to make mistakes but as a christian you MUST at least try to be righteous meaning to not sin but of course since were born sinners, we can't totally 100% keep from sinning. |
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JakeKKing Is there any good lie? Mar 13 2007, 01:20 PM
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