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 Mar 14 2007, 03:45 PM
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"I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical molecules with a different collective label." -- Carl Sagan, Scientist
There are many people who believe that they, real selves, are in fact their body. However, there have been other people that have suggested that you are actually not your body, but an eternal soul. An analogy supporting this would be that we are to our bodies as people are to cars. A person drives a car, has to take care of the car, can decorate the car, but is in fact not the car itself. Sound too supernatural to be for real? Discuss. |
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Mar 14 2007, 08:34 PM
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 Jake - The Unholy Trinity / Premiscuous Poeteer. Group: Member Posts: 1,272 Joined: May 2006 Member No: 411,316 |
QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 14 2007, 4:45 PM)  "I am a collection of water, calcium and organic molecules called Carl Sagan. You are a collection of almost identical molecules with a different collective label." -- Carl Sagan, Scientist There are many people who believe that they, real selves, are in fact their body. However, there have been other people that have suggested that you are actually not your body, but an eternal soul. An analogy supporting this would be that we are to our bodies as people are to cars. A person drives a car, has to take care of the car, can decorate the car, but is in fact not the car itself. Sound too supernatural to be for real? Discuss. Well, a body is just a shell. Supernatural or not, a body cannot live without a soul. A soul simply put is a presence of life. Soul=Life. When we die, the soul leaves the body. But in the spiritual sense, a soul is our eternal being. It carries on after we died. |
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Mar 14 2007, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 14 2007, 9:34 PM) Well, a body is just a shell. Supernatural or not, a body cannot live without a soul. A soul simply put is a presence of life. Soul=Life. When we die, the soul leaves the body. But in the spiritual sense, a soul is our eternal being. It carries on after we died. I could almost agree with this, though, I'm not sure if you're saying that we are the soul or we have a soul.
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Mar 14 2007, 08:44 PM
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Jake - The Unholy Trinity / Premiscuous Poeteer. Group: Member Posts: 1,272 Joined: May 2006 Member No: 411,316 |
QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 14 2007, 9:39 PM) I could almost agree with this, though, I'm not sure if you're saying that we are the soul or we have a soul. I'm saying in a plain non spiritual way we have a soul. The presence of life. In a spiritual way, we have a soul(the presence of life) that continues on after our bodies die. |
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Mar 14 2007, 08:54 PM
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QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 14 2007, 9:44 PM) I'm saying in a plain non spiritual way we have a soul. The presence of life. In a spiritual way, we have a soul(the presence of life) that continues on after our bodies die. Well, as a heads up, I'm actually talking about a person actually being the soul.QUOTE(Obscure Enigma @ Mar 14 2007, 9:45 PM) i agree with the car statement you made in your first post. i believe that you are your soul, not your body. what is a body w/o a soul to feel it? it is a mere corpse, which is in fact not living, so i don't really think it could be considered a person anymore. however, your body is existent in life, of course. it is just not a person. it makes up a person. the soul is the interior to actually complete a human. I'm actually going to have to kind of disagree with this.I'm going to say that the body doesn't even make up a person, and in fact, we, essentially, are not even human. Because what about other animals such as cats, dogs, fish? QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Mar 14 2007, 9:51 PM) No worries, the name's Jordi. Oh, alright, nice to meet you Jordi.I was/am expecting on someone to bring the uniqueness of the individual into question. If we agree that our bodies share the same "materials", and if as I said it's what we gather from our senses which makes us different from the rest; I was wondering if someone would ask what would happen if two persons with exact bodies were exposed to the same experiences. Would the experiment create one individual but two bodies? That's a pretty good question. I'd like to see what someone who would say that they're the body would say to that. This post has been edited by Arjuna Capulong: Mar 14 2007, 09:01 PM |
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Arjuna Capulong You Are Not the Body Mar 14 2007, 03:45 PM
Heath21 Well, since I'm a Christian I would fall into ... Mar 14 2007, 03:48 PM ermfermoo I believe that we do not have souls in the traditi... Mar 14 2007, 07:32 PM Kurd Jam Continuing from Sagan's quote, what should fol... Mar 14 2007, 07:37 PM Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Mar 14 2007, 8:32 PM) I... Mar 14 2007, 07:43 PM
Kurd Jam QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 15 2007, 1:43... Mar 14 2007, 08:51 PM JakeKKing QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Mar 14 2007, 9:51 PM) No... Mar 15 2007, 01:19 AM Kurd Jam QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 15 2007, 7:19 AM) W... Mar 15 2007, 04:39 PM ermfermoo I apologize for my vagueness. I meant that I belie... Mar 14 2007, 07:52 PM Arjuna Capulong Yeah, there are many signs that we are not the gro... Mar 14 2007, 08:02 PM Obscure Enigma i agree with the car statement you made in your fi... Mar 14 2007, 08:45 PM Arjuna Capulong Well, is anybody going to come in and challenge th... Mar 15 2007, 04:06 PM Heath21 QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 15 2007, 2:06... Mar 15 2007, 04:10 PM ermfermoo For the sake of this topic, I'm going to switc... Mar 15 2007, 04:35 PM Heath21 QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Mar 15 2007, 2:35 PM) F... Mar 15 2007, 04:38 PM Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Mar 15 2007, 5:35 PM) F... Mar 15 2007, 05:07 PM JakeKKing QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Mar 15 2007, 5:35 PM) F... Mar 15 2007, 06:04 PM JakeKKing QUOTE(ermfermoo @ Mar 15 2007, 5:35 PM) F... Mar 16 2007, 01:50 PM ermfermoo Exactly, my point was not that my idea is right, b... Mar 15 2007, 08:47 PM Arjuna Capulong Ok, how about this. If we are not the bodies, but ... Mar 18 2007, 11:11 AM JakeKKing QUOTE(Arjuna Capulong @ Mar 18 2007, 12:1... Mar 18 2007, 11:53 AM Arjuna Capulong QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 18 2007, 12:53 PM) ... Mar 18 2007, 01:38 PM |
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