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vexeling and vectoring, A different take on what it looks like.
Ktru
post Feb 26 2007, 03:12 AM
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Hey everyone, there just something that's been bothering me about the forum's ethnic on vexeling and vectoring (which I will call Vextor).

So i'm browsing this forums and I'm looking at all the vextoring of people pictures and I'm thinking to myself gosh these people suck. Why is it that 99% of all the vextor images soo layery? Vexels and vectors are suppost to look flat aren't they?

Maybe you're new to vexeling or vectoring and so you're following the shapes that was created when you desaturate. But it seems like the popular notion of vectoring and vexeling is just to follow the shapes created by photoshop.

I think of graphic design as a form of art. Learning how to vexel and vector is hard because it takes time to learn what kind of shapes you need to make and what kind of opacity the shape should be. To make a good vextor you need to learn the basics ( how to desaturate. how to create shapes, how to blend the layers, etc) after you have that what you do with the vectoring should be up to you. Experiment with the color and shapes to create something different.

Here's a tutorial that I thought was great on vextoring. Can someone else provide their tutorial so I can see what they're doing?

http://www.melissaclifton.com/tutorial-vector.html

let me know what your take on this is thumbsup.gif
 
 
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post Mar 7 2007, 02:15 PM
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please explain to me what your definition of "spam" is, because i'm sure it's totally different than everyone else's, seeing as how you've been making up your own definitions and words throughout this whole thread. everything i have posted here is in direct relevance to everything you're saying. that's not spam. that's the total opposite of spam.

i asked if you could read because it seems you DIDNT read anything i said in my previous post, and you're more concentrated on trying to get me out of your thread. TOUGH SHIT, HONEY, I'M HERE. And it seems YOU'RE the only one that cant seem to muster a response to anything i'm saying.

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but there is good and bad art, it just the collective opinion at one time is swayed at good or bad. Look at picasso everyone thought his art sucks, but now people stare at it and go wow he's a genius. It is all very subjective, but that doesn't mean it can't be good and bad.


right there. you're the only one in this entire thread that thinks the way you do. the actual collective opinion of this forum agrees that you're pretty much wrong. just extrapulate that for a second.


Vectoring is not a genre of art. It is a technique used in art. Like painting. Painting is not a genre of art.

REALISM is a genre. SURREALISM is a genre. CUBISM. IMPRESSIONISM. Figure it out already. And they are genres for a reason. Different people can appreciate different genres. Maybe you only really like one or two. Good for you. In your own words, you arent the center of the universe. The collective opinion of art does not revolve around your own.

I like R&B. I don't like Country. But there are millions of people in the world that like country and dont like R&B.
 
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post Mar 8 2007, 12:51 AM
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please explain to me what your definition of "spam" is, because i'm sure it's totally different than everyone else's, seeing as how you've been making up your own definitions and words throughout this whole thread. everything i have posted here is in direct relevance to everything you're saying. that's not spam. that's the total opposite of spam.


3 words responses are spam, it's not referring to anything and you're not directing your response to anything.

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asked if you could read because it seems you DIDNT read anything i said in my previous post, and you're more concentrated on trying to get me out of your thread. TOUGH SHIT, HONEY, I'M HERE. And it seems YOU'RE the only one that cant seem to muster a response to anything i'm saying.


Hey i welcomed you in with open arms, you're the one that said
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And with that said, I'm done with this thread, as it no longer interests me to continue reading.

Ahem. No offense.

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And once more, with feeling: I'm done with this thread. This is my last response. Your views were entertaining at first, but now you're just not being very nice.


Clearly you uninvited yourself not me so don't be bringing your attitude back cause really you're starting to bore me with that same song you've been singing over and over and over.

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right there. you're the only one in this entire thread that thinks the way you do. the actual collective opinion of this forum agrees that you're pretty much wrong. just extrapulate that for a second.


Seriously explain to me who nominated you as forum's spokeswoman?


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REALISM is a genre. SURREALISM is a genre. CUBISM. IMPRESSIONISM. Figure it out already. And they are genres for a reason. Different people can appreciate different genres. Maybe you only really like one or two. Good for you. In your own words, you arent the center of the universe. The collective opinion of art does not revolve around your own.



I don't get why you think i'm pushing my opinion on anyone? I'm equally allowed to express my thoughts just as you are. So really get that whole "I'm right your wrong" thought out of your head you're just a silly monkey that got angry cause i said your stuff sucks. Really if your soo shallow to be offended by such a comment on the internet, you should consider seeking help.

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It doesn't matter if they all look the same to you. I think most tissue boxes look the same. I think most cardboard boxes look the same. Does that mean that the cardboard used to make them and the processes to make them are bad? If many people like the same form of art, does that mean that its bad? Are you such a non-conformist that the idea of a majority liking just turns you off to something?


Maybe I am a non-conformist. Maybe i think everything that looks the same sucks, what's it to you? If you're in this to protect art then you too should know that art is about originality and if you're not promoting originality well... I guess you're pretty much into things that are homogeneous ya?

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I think nothing you said came close to supporting your argument. So far, you have not discussed your reasoning for why so called 'vextors' are bad. In your first post here, you said:


Okay so let me lay out my arguement for ya.

This forum's vextors= layerly
I hate layerly
So I want to know where everyone's learning how to vector from

or

layerly= non realistic
organic shapes to shade the skin, is
proof?- I don't see people with layerly skin...well none from earth that is.


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And if you don't think the layered vectors are more realistic than flat vectors, then what are they? Less realistic?

precisely

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Additionally, critics are respected due to their experience in a certain subject. Critics are not appreciated on Createblog, as you have no credentials, and if you do, you can't prove them. Here, regardless of what profession you've moved into, you are just a member with an opinion, equal to any other member. Don't think you can just blab your opinion about something and have everyone submit to it without supporting yourself with evidence. A critic's evidence is his or her status. You don't have that luxury.


Oh but I can blab my opinion without supporting myself. This is a forum and as the artist's luxury he/she has the right to ignore my opinion.
 

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Ktru   vexeling and vectoring   Feb 26 2007, 03:12 AM
mona lisa   Not sure if they're supposed to look flat. I...   Feb 26 2007, 09:52 AM
[2]Nekked   QUOTE. Why is it that 99% of all the vextor images...   Feb 26 2007, 06:45 PM
Ktru   Mona lisa's tutorials on vectors is the area t...   Feb 27 2007, 12:26 AM
Intercourse.   I'll have to provide some links later. But I r...   Feb 26 2007, 08:41 PM
[2]Nekked   Do you know what vectoring is? Because when you sa...   Feb 27 2007, 02:20 PM
Ktru   QUOTEMaybe if you were a little more educated abou...   Feb 27 2007, 06:13 PM
StanleyThePanda   QUOTE(Ktru @ Feb 27 2007, 6:13 PM) same h...   Mar 1 2007, 04:14 PM
blaqheartedstar   no need to call anyone a "bitch"... isn...   Feb 27 2007, 08:32 PM
[2]Nekked   Aww sweety. I'm not mad. I find you mildly ent...   Feb 27 2007, 08:58 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE((2)Nekked @ Feb 27 2007, 8...   Feb 27 2007, 10:56 PM
Ktru   QUOTEAww sweety. I'm not mad. I find you mildl...   Feb 28 2007, 05:57 AM
blaqheartedstar   QUOTEOh but you see there was a need and it achiev...   Feb 28 2007, 07:36 AM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   my first one came out pretty crappy look at my si...   Feb 28 2007, 01:56 PM
Ktru   QUOTE(x.d.o.0.f.u.s @ Feb 28 2007, 10:56 ...   Mar 1 2007, 04:30 PM
blaqheartedstar   its better then what i can do.. u know how to work...   Feb 28 2007, 05:00 PM
IVIike   yeah trancie your great i suck at the pen tool ...   Feb 28 2007, 05:54 PM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   there's a trick O_O   Feb 28 2007, 08:46 PM
blaqheartedstar   and that will be?   Mar 1 2007, 03:56 PM
ZapatoDelFuego   i have an idea! why dont we get back on topic ...   Mar 1 2007, 05:07 PM
Gypsy Eyes   Honestly, I think that the example you provided lo...   Mar 1 2007, 10:26 PM
Ktru   QUOTEThe whole point of a vector it to smoothly go...   Mar 2 2007, 05:32 AM
icy_wonderland   ^There's no 'point' to vectoring, it...   Mar 2 2007, 05:43 AM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   wow is this a vector war or something? O_O   Mar 2 2007, 06:28 AM
blaqheartedstar   omg.. this should be closed... its turning into mo...   Mar 2 2007, 02:57 PM
StanleyThePanda   QUOTE(blaqheartedstar @ Mar 2 2007, 2:57 ...   Mar 2 2007, 03:18 PM
Ktru   QUOTE(blaqheartedstar @ Mar 2 2007, 11:57...   Mar 4 2007, 06:25 AM
energizerbunny   Firstly, I would like to say "vexel" is ...   Mar 4 2007, 11:31 AM
Ktru   QUOTEFirstly, I would like to say "vexel...   Mar 6 2007, 06:48 PM
StanleyThePanda   ^ I think he meant to say "Posterize" in...   Mar 5 2007, 04:29 PM
slammin shelby   Man did I miss Trish's posts. Anyway, I prefe...   Mar 6 2007, 01:59 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Ktru @ Feb 26 2007, 3:12 AM) Hey ev...   Mar 6 2007, 02:14 PM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   i tried again. T-T   Mar 6 2007, 06:24 PM
energizerbunny   Many vector artists sadly don't appreciate vex...   Mar 6 2007, 07:57 PM
Ktru   QUOTEMany vector artists sadly don't appreciat...   Mar 6 2007, 09:33 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(Ktru @ Mar 6 2007, 9:33 PM) There i...   Mar 7 2007, 12:18 AM
[2]Nekked   Ok im back again. I just cant ignore your total bu...   Mar 6 2007, 07:57 PM
ermfermoo   I can't believe how dumb this thread is gettin...   Mar 6 2007, 08:17 PM
[2]Nekked   can you read?   Mar 7 2007, 12:14 AM
Ktru   QUOTENekked' date='Mar 6 2007, 9:14 PM...   Mar 7 2007, 05:44 AM
[2]Nekked   please explain to me what your definition of ...   Mar 7 2007, 02:15 PM
Ktru   QUOTEplease explain to me what your definition of ...   Mar 8 2007, 12:51 AM
ermfermoo   QUOTEIf you think it's a dumb thread why are y...   Mar 7 2007, 08:29 PM
[2]Nekked   wow. and still you havent really responded to what...   Mar 8 2007, 01:05 PM
Ktru   QUOTEwow. and still you havent really responded to...   Mar 9 2007, 03:44 AM
[2]Nekked   im sorry are you just a total idiot then? if you c...   Mar 9 2007, 04:19 PM
Ktru   QUOTEim sorry are you just a total idiot then? if ...   Mar 14 2007, 04:40 PM
ermfermoo   So basically your point is that you don't like...   Mar 10 2007, 09:46 AM
a beautiful nothing   Guys cool it down. Anyways, I've never really...   Mar 12 2007, 10:07 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(a beautiful nothing @ Mar 12 2007, 10...   Mar 13 2007, 02:30 AM
[2]Nekked   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 13 2007, 12:30 AM) I...   Mar 13 2007, 12:14 PM
pandamonium   um replying from the first post, I used to do tha...   Mar 13 2007, 12:38 PM
kayceeisms   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Mar 13 2007, 9:38 AM)...   Mar 16 2007, 12:39 AM
energizerbunny   Tracing is not equivalent to vexelling or vectorin...   Mar 15 2007, 02:44 PM
[2]Nekked   hahahahaha you think if you use a japanese word, i...   Mar 16 2007, 12:32 AM
turntabletux   ktru, you're just an arrogant assshole!   Mar 18 2007, 11:09 PM
Azarel   This thread has obviously degenerated into member ...   Mar 18 2007, 11:19 PM


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