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vexeling and vectoring, A different take on what it looks like.
Ktru
post Feb 26 2007, 03:12 AM
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Hey everyone, there just something that's been bothering me about the forum's ethnic on vexeling and vectoring (which I will call Vextor).

So i'm browsing this forums and I'm looking at all the vextoring of people pictures and I'm thinking to myself gosh these people suck. Why is it that 99% of all the vextor images soo layery? Vexels and vectors are suppost to look flat aren't they?

Maybe you're new to vexeling or vectoring and so you're following the shapes that was created when you desaturate. But it seems like the popular notion of vectoring and vexeling is just to follow the shapes created by photoshop.

I think of graphic design as a form of art. Learning how to vexel and vector is hard because it takes time to learn what kind of shapes you need to make and what kind of opacity the shape should be. To make a good vextor you need to learn the basics ( how to desaturate. how to create shapes, how to blend the layers, etc) after you have that what you do with the vectoring should be up to you. Experiment with the color and shapes to create something different.

Here's a tutorial that I thought was great on vextoring. Can someone else provide their tutorial so I can see what they're doing?

http://www.melissaclifton.com/tutorial-vector.html

let me know what your take on this is thumbsup.gif
 
 
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*[2]Nekked*
post Feb 27 2007, 02:20 PM
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Do you know what vectoring is? Because when you say:
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What I mean by that is you wouldn't call a painting painting unless it uses paint right?


There are different styles of painting. Theres abstract, cubism, expressionism, fauvism, impressionism, pointillism, post impressionism, realism, surrealism, etc, etc, etc.

You can use paint for all styles.

There are different styles of vector.

Abstract, portraits, still life, etc.

There are different styles of vector portraits.

high contrast portraits (like my hyori), 3d (i.e. gradient mesh), cartoony, etc.

It's up to the designer, and their preference.

Your "interpretation" is not of THE style, it's of A style.


Maybe if you were a little more educated about the subject, you would understand the point i'm trying to get across. Allow me to educate you.

Vector graphics is the use of geometrical primitives such as points, lines, curves, and polygons to represent images in computer graphics. It is used by contrast to the term raster graphics, which is the representation of images as a collection of pixels.

Vexelling is a term coined to define using raster shapes to IMITATE vector.

So your idea of "vextor" being limited to a certain "flat" style is, in my opinion, wrong.


And I do have to say, you're a little out of line. Maybe if you'd post some links of your work, I could pick it a part and point out its flaws according to MY interpretation of style.

And no one on this forum claims to be an expert in creating "vextors." There will be flaws in their work. It's a learning experience. A major fraction of this forum is to help people LEARN about this stuff. I'm sorry, but outright telling us that most of the work here sucks makes you seem like an ass, ESPECIALLY since most of us have never seen YOUR work. I'm sure you're not REALLY an ass, but it may interest you to keep a closer eye on how you allow yourself to be portrayed. And with that said, I'm done with this thread, as it no longer interests me to continue reading.

Ahem. No offense.
 
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post Feb 27 2007, 06:13 PM
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Maybe if you were a little more educated about the subject, you would understand the point i'm trying to get across. Allow me to educate you.



Why yes please do educate me, I really would like to see where you got the idea of vectoring from

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Vector graphics is the use of geometrical primitives such as points, lines, curves, and polygons to represent images in computer graphics. It is used by contrast to the term raster graphics, which is the representation of images as a collection of pixels.


why yes I can see that on wikipedia, and yes that is the basic term of a vector written for a general audience by general people.

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So your idea of "vextor" being limited to a certain "flat" style is, in my opinion, wrong.

Who said i was limiting it to a flat style? I'm telling you that 3d style is not done in the proper way. If you're trying to acheive realism from vectors then that's not vectors that's realism.

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And I do have to say, you're a little out of line. Maybe if you'd post some links of your work, I could pick it a part and point out its flaws according to MY interpretation of style.


Maybe I am out of line and I will be posting images so you can " pick apart things you don't like"

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And no one on this forum claims to be an expert in creating "vextors." There will be flaws in their work. It's a learning experience. A major fraction of this forum is to help people LEARN about this stuff..


neither am I, and I did say it was a learning experience that's why I made this post. It's to guide others into the basic area before they're making mistakes. All the threads I've looked at has shown people appraising work but not criticizing it. No one here is an expert, but if everyone just passes everything as great, no one will know that their work "sucks". Yes it's harsh to be told your work sucks, but it sucks even more when you think your work is professional when it just sucks.

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I'm sorry, but outright telling us that most of the work here sucks makes you seem like an ass, ESPECIALLY since most of us have never seen YOUR work. I'm sure you're not REALLY an ass, but it may interest you to keep a closer eye on how you allow yourself to be portrayed

Maybe I do appear like an ass, that's not something that concerns me. What does concerns me is the general consensus that's going on about certain design.


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And with that said, I'm done with this thread, as it no longer interests me to continue reading.


Why would you not visit a thread?Are you mad that someone called your work crap? Or are you infuriated that some punk ass just criticized your work? This is a learning experience we're all here to learn and yes I don't have anything up. I am new to the forums, but I do plan to post things up as time goes on. But that doesn't make my opinion any less valid. I have been working with graphics since freshmen year of high school I do know what I'm talking about. Oh and please if you don't like criticism don't stick your stuff online where everyone can see it, cause really you're asking to me criticized when you publicize your graphics.


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Ahem. No offense.


same here, bitch
 

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Ktru   vexeling and vectoring   Feb 26 2007, 03:12 AM
mona lisa   Not sure if they're supposed to look flat. I...   Feb 26 2007, 09:52 AM
[2]Nekked   QUOTE. Why is it that 99% of all the vextor images...   Feb 26 2007, 06:45 PM
Ktru   Mona lisa's tutorials on vectors is the area t...   Feb 27 2007, 12:26 AM
Intercourse.   I'll have to provide some links later. But I r...   Feb 26 2007, 08:41 PM
[2]Nekked   Do you know what vectoring is? Because when you sa...   Feb 27 2007, 02:20 PM
Ktru   QUOTEMaybe if you were a little more educated abou...   Feb 27 2007, 06:13 PM
StanleyThePanda   QUOTE(Ktru @ Feb 27 2007, 6:13 PM) same h...   Mar 1 2007, 04:14 PM
blaqheartedstar   no need to call anyone a "bitch"... isn...   Feb 27 2007, 08:32 PM
[2]Nekked   Aww sweety. I'm not mad. I find you mildly ent...   Feb 27 2007, 08:58 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE((2)Nekked @ Feb 27 2007, 8...   Feb 27 2007, 10:56 PM
Ktru   QUOTEAww sweety. I'm not mad. I find you mildl...   Feb 28 2007, 05:57 AM
blaqheartedstar   QUOTEOh but you see there was a need and it achiev...   Feb 28 2007, 07:36 AM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   my first one came out pretty crappy look at my si...   Feb 28 2007, 01:56 PM
Ktru   QUOTE(x.d.o.0.f.u.s @ Feb 28 2007, 10:56 ...   Mar 1 2007, 04:30 PM
blaqheartedstar   its better then what i can do.. u know how to work...   Feb 28 2007, 05:00 PM
IVIike   yeah trancie your great i suck at the pen tool ...   Feb 28 2007, 05:54 PM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   there's a trick O_O   Feb 28 2007, 08:46 PM
blaqheartedstar   and that will be?   Mar 1 2007, 03:56 PM
ZapatoDelFuego   i have an idea! why dont we get back on topic ...   Mar 1 2007, 05:07 PM
Gypsy Eyes   Honestly, I think that the example you provided lo...   Mar 1 2007, 10:26 PM
Ktru   QUOTEThe whole point of a vector it to smoothly go...   Mar 2 2007, 05:32 AM
icy_wonderland   ^There's no 'point' to vectoring, it...   Mar 2 2007, 05:43 AM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   wow is this a vector war or something? O_O   Mar 2 2007, 06:28 AM
blaqheartedstar   omg.. this should be closed... its turning into mo...   Mar 2 2007, 02:57 PM
StanleyThePanda   QUOTE(blaqheartedstar @ Mar 2 2007, 2:57 ...   Mar 2 2007, 03:18 PM
Ktru   QUOTE(blaqheartedstar @ Mar 2 2007, 11:57...   Mar 4 2007, 06:25 AM
energizerbunny   Firstly, I would like to say "vexel" is ...   Mar 4 2007, 11:31 AM
Ktru   QUOTEFirstly, I would like to say "vexel...   Mar 6 2007, 06:48 PM
StanleyThePanda   ^ I think he meant to say "Posterize" in...   Mar 5 2007, 04:29 PM
slammin shelby   Man did I miss Trish's posts. Anyway, I prefe...   Mar 6 2007, 01:59 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Ktru @ Feb 26 2007, 3:12 AM) Hey ev...   Mar 6 2007, 02:14 PM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   i tried again. T-T   Mar 6 2007, 06:24 PM
energizerbunny   Many vector artists sadly don't appreciate vex...   Mar 6 2007, 07:57 PM
Ktru   QUOTEMany vector artists sadly don't appreciat...   Mar 6 2007, 09:33 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(Ktru @ Mar 6 2007, 9:33 PM) There i...   Mar 7 2007, 12:18 AM
[2]Nekked   Ok im back again. I just cant ignore your total bu...   Mar 6 2007, 07:57 PM
ermfermoo   I can't believe how dumb this thread is gettin...   Mar 6 2007, 08:17 PM
[2]Nekked   can you read?   Mar 7 2007, 12:14 AM
Ktru   QUOTENekked' date='Mar 6 2007, 9:14 PM...   Mar 7 2007, 05:44 AM
[2]Nekked   please explain to me what your definition of ...   Mar 7 2007, 02:15 PM
Ktru   QUOTEplease explain to me what your definition of ...   Mar 8 2007, 12:51 AM
ermfermoo   QUOTEIf you think it's a dumb thread why are y...   Mar 7 2007, 08:29 PM
[2]Nekked   wow. and still you havent really responded to what...   Mar 8 2007, 01:05 PM
Ktru   QUOTEwow. and still you havent really responded to...   Mar 9 2007, 03:44 AM
[2]Nekked   im sorry are you just a total idiot then? if you c...   Mar 9 2007, 04:19 PM
Ktru   QUOTEim sorry are you just a total idiot then? if ...   Mar 14 2007, 04:40 PM
ermfermoo   So basically your point is that you don't like...   Mar 10 2007, 09:46 AM
a beautiful nothing   Guys cool it down. Anyways, I've never really...   Mar 12 2007, 10:07 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(a beautiful nothing @ Mar 12 2007, 10...   Mar 13 2007, 02:30 AM
[2]Nekked   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 13 2007, 12:30 AM) I...   Mar 13 2007, 12:14 PM
pandamonium   um replying from the first post, I used to do tha...   Mar 13 2007, 12:38 PM
kayceeisms   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Mar 13 2007, 9:38 AM)...   Mar 16 2007, 12:39 AM
energizerbunny   Tracing is not equivalent to vexelling or vectorin...   Mar 15 2007, 02:44 PM
[2]Nekked   hahahahaha you think if you use a japanese word, i...   Mar 16 2007, 12:32 AM
turntabletux   ktru, you're just an arrogant assshole!   Mar 18 2007, 11:09 PM
Azarel   This thread has obviously degenerated into member ...   Mar 18 2007, 11:19 PM


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