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vexeling and vectoring, A different take on what it looks like.
Ktru
post Feb 26 2007, 03:12 AM
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Hey everyone, there just something that's been bothering me about the forum's ethnic on vexeling and vectoring (which I will call Vextor).

So i'm browsing this forums and I'm looking at all the vextoring of people pictures and I'm thinking to myself gosh these people suck. Why is it that 99% of all the vextor images soo layery? Vexels and vectors are suppost to look flat aren't they?

Maybe you're new to vexeling or vectoring and so you're following the shapes that was created when you desaturate. But it seems like the popular notion of vectoring and vexeling is just to follow the shapes created by photoshop.

I think of graphic design as a form of art. Learning how to vexel and vector is hard because it takes time to learn what kind of shapes you need to make and what kind of opacity the shape should be. To make a good vextor you need to learn the basics ( how to desaturate. how to create shapes, how to blend the layers, etc) after you have that what you do with the vectoring should be up to you. Experiment with the color and shapes to create something different.

Here's a tutorial that I thought was great on vextoring. Can someone else provide their tutorial so I can see what they're doing?

http://www.melissaclifton.com/tutorial-vector.html

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post Feb 26 2007, 06:45 PM
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. Why is it that 99% of all the vextor images soo layery? Vexels and vectors are suppost to look flat aren't they?


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after you have that what you do with the vectoring should be up to you.



You may have contradicted yourself there. Many people like their vectors to be "Layery" to have more of a 3D effect. Some like their vectors flat for a more cartoony effect. Some like to be more creative with their vectors and dont follow any guidelines at all or have mixed "layery" and "flat" elements.

I can give you examples of my own work that apply to each technique.

Layery: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24468882/
Cartoony: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15269229/
Mixed, No Guides: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/37630318

All in all, it's up to the designer. There's no right or wrong way. It's art, like you said.
 
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post Feb 27 2007, 12:26 AM
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Mona lisa's tutorials on vectors is the area that I head with my vextors. It's more organic and flat and the images turn out crisp and clean at the end, without the layery look.

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You may have contradicted yourself there. Many people like their vectors to be "Layery" to have more of a 3D effect


I don't think it's necessarily a contradiction. You can have the 3d effect without having the layery look. It's just how you change the opacity on the shapes that makes them blend well.


Layery: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/24468882/

I think it's awesome except for the area where there's skin. The piece does not suck, but it lacks cohesiveness ya know? Your whole picture is flat but then when it comes to skin it becomes layery and it stands out. OF course each person's vision of their work is different and unique which is the purpose of art. But you are in essence calling it a certain type of art, and there are certain guidelines to it. What I mean by that is you wouldn't call a painting painting unless it uses paint right? You wouldn't call something cubism if it was organic right?

Cartoony: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/15269229/

I wouldn't consider this vextoring at all because of it's just 2d shapes it's not creating any kind of dimensional feel through the shapes. If I saw this randomly somewhere i would think that it was painted or just drawn. Although you're using vextoring techniques to create it, it shouldn't necessarily be considered vextoring. Plus you have lines which is not something used in vextoring.

Yea I agree that it's art so it's up to the designer. But you're not just calling it art, you're calling it a certain art. When you label it shouldn't you ensure it follows the style?

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I guess I've never really liked the 'flat' effect that they gave out, so the more layers as Trish said does give out more of a 3-d effect which is what people want in a lot of cases


The point of vectoring is not to create more layers to bring out the 3d effect but to make the 3d effect through various colors and shapes, I think that's the point I'm trying to get at. Maybe this is just my interpretation of the style?
 

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Ktru   vexeling and vectoring   Feb 26 2007, 03:12 AM
mona lisa   Not sure if they're supposed to look flat. I...   Feb 26 2007, 09:52 AM
[2]Nekked   QUOTE. Why is it that 99% of all the vextor images...   Feb 26 2007, 06:45 PM
Ktru   Mona lisa's tutorials on vectors is the area t...   Feb 27 2007, 12:26 AM
Intercourse.   I'll have to provide some links later. But I r...   Feb 26 2007, 08:41 PM
[2]Nekked   Do you know what vectoring is? Because when you sa...   Feb 27 2007, 02:20 PM
Ktru   QUOTEMaybe if you were a little more educated abou...   Feb 27 2007, 06:13 PM
StanleyThePanda   QUOTE(Ktru @ Feb 27 2007, 6:13 PM) same h...   Mar 1 2007, 04:14 PM
blaqheartedstar   no need to call anyone a "bitch"... isn...   Feb 27 2007, 08:32 PM
[2]Nekked   Aww sweety. I'm not mad. I find you mildly ent...   Feb 27 2007, 08:58 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE((2)Nekked @ Feb 27 2007, 8...   Feb 27 2007, 10:56 PM
Ktru   QUOTEAww sweety. I'm not mad. I find you mildl...   Feb 28 2007, 05:57 AM
blaqheartedstar   QUOTEOh but you see there was a need and it achiev...   Feb 28 2007, 07:36 AM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   my first one came out pretty crappy look at my si...   Feb 28 2007, 01:56 PM
Ktru   QUOTE(x.d.o.0.f.u.s @ Feb 28 2007, 10:56 ...   Mar 1 2007, 04:30 PM
blaqheartedstar   its better then what i can do.. u know how to work...   Feb 28 2007, 05:00 PM
IVIike   yeah trancie your great i suck at the pen tool ...   Feb 28 2007, 05:54 PM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   there's a trick O_O   Feb 28 2007, 08:46 PM
blaqheartedstar   and that will be?   Mar 1 2007, 03:56 PM
ZapatoDelFuego   i have an idea! why dont we get back on topic ...   Mar 1 2007, 05:07 PM
Gypsy Eyes   Honestly, I think that the example you provided lo...   Mar 1 2007, 10:26 PM
Ktru   QUOTEThe whole point of a vector it to smoothly go...   Mar 2 2007, 05:32 AM
icy_wonderland   ^There's no 'point' to vectoring, it...   Mar 2 2007, 05:43 AM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   wow is this a vector war or something? O_O   Mar 2 2007, 06:28 AM
blaqheartedstar   omg.. this should be closed... its turning into mo...   Mar 2 2007, 02:57 PM
StanleyThePanda   QUOTE(blaqheartedstar @ Mar 2 2007, 2:57 ...   Mar 2 2007, 03:18 PM
Ktru   QUOTE(blaqheartedstar @ Mar 2 2007, 11:57...   Mar 4 2007, 06:25 AM
energizerbunny   Firstly, I would like to say "vexel" is ...   Mar 4 2007, 11:31 AM
Ktru   QUOTEFirstly, I would like to say "vexel...   Mar 6 2007, 06:48 PM
StanleyThePanda   ^ I think he meant to say "Posterize" in...   Mar 5 2007, 04:29 PM
slammin shelby   Man did I miss Trish's posts. Anyway, I prefe...   Mar 6 2007, 01:59 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Ktru @ Feb 26 2007, 3:12 AM) Hey ev...   Mar 6 2007, 02:14 PM
x.d.o.0.f.u.s   i tried again. T-T   Mar 6 2007, 06:24 PM
energizerbunny   Many vector artists sadly don't appreciate vex...   Mar 6 2007, 07:57 PM
Ktru   QUOTEMany vector artists sadly don't appreciat...   Mar 6 2007, 09:33 PM
mona lisa   QUOTE(Ktru @ Mar 6 2007, 9:33 PM) There i...   Mar 7 2007, 12:18 AM
[2]Nekked   Ok im back again. I just cant ignore your total bu...   Mar 6 2007, 07:57 PM
ermfermoo   I can't believe how dumb this thread is gettin...   Mar 6 2007, 08:17 PM
[2]Nekked   can you read?   Mar 7 2007, 12:14 AM
Ktru   QUOTENekked' date='Mar 6 2007, 9:14 PM...   Mar 7 2007, 05:44 AM
[2]Nekked   please explain to me what your definition of ...   Mar 7 2007, 02:15 PM
Ktru   QUOTEplease explain to me what your definition of ...   Mar 8 2007, 12:51 AM
ermfermoo   QUOTEIf you think it's a dumb thread why are y...   Mar 7 2007, 08:29 PM
[2]Nekked   wow. and still you havent really responded to what...   Mar 8 2007, 01:05 PM
Ktru   QUOTEwow. and still you havent really responded to...   Mar 9 2007, 03:44 AM
[2]Nekked   im sorry are you just a total idiot then? if you c...   Mar 9 2007, 04:19 PM
Ktru   QUOTEim sorry are you just a total idiot then? if ...   Mar 14 2007, 04:40 PM
ermfermoo   So basically your point is that you don't like...   Mar 10 2007, 09:46 AM
a beautiful nothing   Guys cool it down. Anyways, I've never really...   Mar 12 2007, 10:07 PM
Uronacid   QUOTE(a beautiful nothing @ Mar 12 2007, 10...   Mar 13 2007, 02:30 AM
[2]Nekked   QUOTE(Uronacid @ Mar 13 2007, 12:30 AM) I...   Mar 13 2007, 12:14 PM
pandamonium   um replying from the first post, I used to do tha...   Mar 13 2007, 12:38 PM
kayceeisms   QUOTE(pandamonium @ Mar 13 2007, 9:38 AM)...   Mar 16 2007, 12:39 AM
energizerbunny   Tracing is not equivalent to vexelling or vectorin...   Mar 15 2007, 02:44 PM
[2]Nekked   hahahahaha you think if you use a japanese word, i...   Mar 16 2007, 12:32 AM
turntabletux   ktru, you're just an arrogant assshole!   Mar 18 2007, 11:09 PM
Azarel   This thread has obviously degenerated into member ...   Mar 18 2007, 11:19 PM


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