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Feb 25 2007, 11:44 AM
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A couple of days ago on Channel One, there was a segment on growing cases of depression in teens. They showed many examples of teens who had been diagnosed as "clinically depressed", "depressed", or "mildly depressed", and went through the symptoms of depression and behaviors commonly linked with depression. The segment poured a can of gasoline on the part of my brain that controls anger and the teens presented in the segment all contributed to lighting the spark.
Depression is not a disease. More often than not, it is brought on by a traumatic or life-changing experience that the person is unable to cope with. Even if nothing terribly awful has happened to a person, they can still be upset about something, or just be changing their views and opinions on life. Being a teenager is a tough time for anyone. Some have issues with even existing. Some of the symptoms they discussed on the segment were irritability, antisocial behavior, a lack of motivation, a change in grades, and an unwillingness to participate in activities one once enjoyed. These are all absolutely normal occurrences in a teenager's life. I know that I, myself, have been exhibiting a large amount of antisocial behavior lately, simply because I am becoming more and more critical of human nature and do not enjoy spending time with many people. That does not correlate to depression. The bounds of normality seem to be rapidly imploding in our world and the desperation for everything to be happy and good is getting tiresome. When one thinks of diagnosing people with mental disorders such as depression or bipolar disorder, one must think of prime examples of the destruction that such a thing can cause. Brave New World is a wonderful literary example of this and it was written 40 or so years ago (maybe even 50, I'm not clear on the date of publication). People are supposed to feel sadness and anger, fatigue and doubt. Feeling these emotions and overcoming the effect they have is a large sign of maturity. It's OK to feel sad; the problem comes when one cannot move on from the sadness. But, even if the person is having trouble, there is no call to put the person on medication to make them feel better. They need to cope with sadness, loss, and disappointment in order to grow. Everyone needs to stop diagnosing and treating. |
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Feb 26 2007, 04:18 PM
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I understand that sometimes sadness cannot be overcome, but I still wouldn't call that a disease. Being sad is not a disease, even if it's perpetual. You're just a sad person, and you said it yourself - nothing can be done. Diseases can be cured (yes, I know some don't have cures yet, but they probably will in the future). You can't cure sadness. The person has to overcome it themselves. Taking antidepressants is a mind fixture. Studies have shown that if you give patients something and tell them that it's making them better, they will feel better. Antidepressants do the same. They give the person "assistance" and the person thinks that since they are taking these things, they can get over it - that whole enabling thing I talked about. Once they have the idea that they can overcome it, they will. So, when antidepressants work, it's because of the person's willpower and because they were convinced that they could overcome the sadness.
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Feb 26 2007, 05:00 PM
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I understand that sometimes sadness cannot be overcome, but I still wouldn't call that a disease. Being sad is not a disease, even if it's perpetual. You're just a sad person, and you said it yourself - nothing can be done. Diseases can be cured (yes, I know some don't have cures yet, but they probably will in the future). You can't cure sadness. The person has to overcome it themselves. Taking antidepressants is a mind fixture. Studies have shown that if you give patients something and tell them that it's making them better, they will feel better. Antidepressants do the same. They give the person "assistance" and the person thinks that since they are taking these things, they can get over it - that whole enabling thing I talked about. Once they have the idea that they can overcome it, they will. So, when antidepressants work, it's because of the person's willpower and because they were convinced that they could overcome the sadness. Who said disease? It's a disorder. I've been put on many anti-depressants and told that I would feel better and I never have. If taking something that's even a placebo helps someone... who the hell cares? I'm not talking about children on adderall; I have a strong problem with doctors prescribing anything like that to children. I'm talking about adults. Not everyone is as strong as you think they should be. |
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disco infiltrator Depression Feb 25 2007, 11:44 AM
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