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Why are black people, called African American?
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post Feb 20 2007, 11:29 AM
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I never really liked the term African American, first of all because its just an easy way out instead of calling a person black. Because saying some one is black is closely related to racism, some how.

Technically all people who come from Africa aren't black. If you're Egyptian and you live in America, what are you?

Another problem is that if you're born in the US and you're black, then you're not at all African American. That term only denotes that you previously resided in Africa and moved to the US.

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*Frénésie*
post Feb 23 2007, 05:43 AM
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Probably because majority, if not all black people came from Africa. In my opinion, an Egyptian would be called "African American" because he / she is from Africa. African doesn't mean black.

I live in Europe but I've never been called an "African European". I'm European and it ends there.
Although, I don't get why nobody says "White American". Only the minorities have their race attached to 'American'. Ironic.

Anyway, yes, there is the human race BUT in the human race, there are also different races. If you get what I mean. We aren't the same. We've got different cultures, and many more.
I don't think identifying someone by his / her race should be considered as racism.
 
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post Feb 23 2007, 06:05 AM
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QUOTE(Frénésie @ Feb 23 2007, 5:43 AM) *
Probably because majority, if not all black people came from Africa. In my opinion, an Egyptian would be called "African American" because he / she is from Africa. African doesn't mean black.

I live in Europe but I've never been called an "African European". I'm European and it ends there.
Although, I don't get why nobody says "White American". Only the minorities have their race attached to 'American'. Ironic.

Anyway, yes, there is the human race BUT in the human race, there are also different races. If you get what I mean. We aren't the same. We've got different cultures, and many more.
I don't think identifying someone by his / her race should be considered as racism.


I don't know if you read my post earlier on in the discussion, but there is only one race. There are variations within a kind. Therefore you have whites, blacks, latin, asians, and whatnot. We aren't different races. Yes, we have different cultures but actually it is our cultures that make us different for the most part. THere is only a .012% difference between all humans. That's very small. The reason poeple look different is because of where they are from. If you breed one group of people with the same group of people, you therefore will get that group of people. Hence, why there is so much of a certain type of people.

We are all human, so that is a species, or race as we call it. There are just variations, that's all.
 
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post Feb 23 2007, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 23 2007, 12:05 PM) *
I don't know if you read my post earlier on in the discussion, but there is only one race. There are variations within a kind. Therefore you have whites, blacks, latin, asians, and whatnot. We aren't different races. Yes, we have different cultures but actually it is our cultures that make us different for the most part. THere is only a .012% difference between all humans. That's very small. The reason poeple look different is because of where they are from. If you breed one group of people with the same group of people, you therefore will get that group of people. Hence, why there is so much of a certain type of people.

We are all human, so that is a species, or race as we call it. There are just variations, that's all.

We are talking about the same thing, or almost. There is the human race, no doubt. But in the human race, there are variations, exactly like you said. 'Variation' is considered as another race within the human race. Jesus, I'm having an headache.
We are the same if you talk about us eating, drinking, farting, laughing and such. But our cultures, our lifestyle, our beliefs make us different from eachother. We are human, yes, but in a way, we are different. That's what makes the world what it is; diversity.

I find it to be ridiculous when people say: we're the same, we eat, fart and our blood is red. Seriously, that isn't all.

Let me put it this way; in the univers / whatever you want, there is only 1 HUMAN race. True. But within the human race, there are Blacks / Asians / Whites / many more. It's not a terrible thing, that's the way it is. There isn't only ONE race. I highly disagree with that.

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The difference remains in whether you use the term race as a scientific concept, or else as a way to define a social group that share X number of exclusive characteristics.

Scientists have been abandoning the idea of biologically distinct races amongst humans since the early years of the XXth century, and talk about the black/asian/etc.., population and/or cline.

It's all about social, baby. I don't really care about scientists and their theories. Like you said;
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Presently, the concept of races within the human specie has more to do with cultural studies than with scientific evidence
 

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JakeKKing   Why are black people   Feb 20 2007, 11:29 AM
Endless_Symphony   the reason why many people think the term black is...   Feb 20 2007, 12:09 PM
mishyerr   I'm not exactly sure why some "African-Am...   Feb 20 2007, 08:52 PM
JakeKKing   But it's racist when they say we cant say that...   Feb 20 2007, 09:19 PM
WHIMSICAL 0NE   ^ It's not always one sided. If they throw rac...   Feb 20 2007, 09:28 PM
one_and_only   I think its because all black people in America ha...   Feb 20 2007, 11:38 PM
JakeKKing   There aren't different races. We're all hu...   Feb 20 2007, 11:40 PM
mishyerr   Hmm, you may see it that way, but others don't...   Feb 21 2007, 08:44 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(mishyerr @ Feb 21 2007, 8:44 PM) Hm...   Feb 22 2007, 12:56 AM
Uronacid   QUOTE(mishyerr @ Feb 21 2007, 8:44 PM) Hm...   Feb 27 2007, 01:45 AM
Madame C   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 20 2007, 4:29 PM) I...   Feb 21 2007, 11:20 PM
pandamonium   thats a good question. its because you still want ...   Feb 22 2007, 01:59 AM
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pandamonium   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 3:38 AM) R...   Feb 22 2007, 03:45 AM
JakeKKing   I'm just trying to make a point here. We sho...   Feb 22 2007, 03:55 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 9:55 AM) I...   Feb 22 2007, 08:27 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Feb 22 2007, 8:27 AM) Th...   Feb 22 2007, 11:36 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 5:36 PM) Y...   Feb 22 2007, 12:23 PM
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Kurd Jam   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 9:10 PM) O...   Feb 22 2007, 04:16 PM
Madame C   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 5:56 AM) B...   Feb 22 2007, 07:13 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Madame C @ Feb 22 2007, 7:13 AM) ...   Feb 22 2007, 07:53 AM
Lil_Cloud   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 20 2007, 10:40 PM) ...   Feb 23 2007, 01:01 AM
Frénésie   Probably because majority, if not all black people...   Feb 23 2007, 05:43 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Frénésie @ Feb 23 2007, 5:43 AM) Pr...   Feb 23 2007, 06:05 AM
Frénésie   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 23 2007, 12:05 PM) ...   Feb 23 2007, 09:57 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(Frénésie @ Feb 23 2007, 11:43 AM) A...   Feb 23 2007, 08:18 AM
Kurd Jam   I think we're on different pages here. I was a...   Feb 23 2007, 12:36 PM
Frénésie   QUOTE(Kurd Jam @ Feb 23 2007, 6:36 PM) I ...   Feb 24 2007, 03:00 AM
Kurd Jam   QUOTE(Frénésie @ Feb 24 2007, 9:00 AM) Ha...   Feb 24 2007, 04:48 PM
happykmd   QUOTEIf I call some one a 'Nigga' why is t...   Feb 23 2007, 04:27 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(happykmd @ Feb 23 2007, 4:27 PM) Ok...   Feb 23 2007, 05:44 PM
Monochrome.   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 23 2007, 10:44 PM) ...   Feb 23 2007, 06:26 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Monochrome. @ Feb 23 2007, 6:26 PM)...   Feb 23 2007, 09:19 PM
Monochrome.   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 24 2007, 2:19 AM) ...   Feb 24 2007, 09:50 AM
happykmd   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 23 2007, 5:44 PM) I...   Feb 23 2007, 10:52 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(happykmd @ Feb 23 2007, 10:52 PM) T...   Feb 24 2007, 12:19 AM
Madame C   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Feb 22 2007, 8:55 AM) T...   Feb 23 2007, 06:07 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   I dont see the terms as racist. I wouldnt even con...   Feb 23 2007, 06:33 PM
Spiritual Winged Aura   I guess she mean that ... people should be more co...   Feb 24 2007, 02:21 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Spiritual Winged Aura @ Feb 24 2007, 2...   Feb 24 2007, 02:47 AM
Frénésie   Oh my God. I actually understood that. I'm goi...   Feb 24 2007, 05:13 PM
Kurd Jam   .... D: The "races" division amongst hu...   Feb 24 2007, 05:24 PM
xoxo_koala_kisses_   Black people get offended when they're called ...   Feb 25 2007, 11:33 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(xoxo_koala_kisses_ @ Feb 25 2007, 11...   Feb 25 2007, 01:11 PM
kayceeisms   QUOTE(xoxo_koala_kisses_ @ Feb 25 2007, 8...   Feb 25 2007, 08:11 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(kayceeisms @ Feb 25 2007, 8:11 PM) ...   Feb 26 2007, 05:40 AM
just_rissa   Egyptians in American are called Egyptians. I don...   Feb 26 2007, 05:48 AM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(just_rissa @ Feb 26 2007, 5:48 AM) ...   Feb 26 2007, 08:30 AM
happykmd   ^ There's nothing wrong with considering yours...   Feb 26 2007, 08:38 PM
showme   josh is an idiot Image removed. - tic tac.   Feb 28 2007, 09:42 PM
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happykmd   ^ But, the people I know who are like that still i...   Mar 14 2007, 04:39 PM
Heath21   QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 14 2007, 2:39 PM) ^ ...   Mar 14 2007, 09:17 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 14 2007, 10:17 PM) We...   Mar 15 2007, 01:08 AM
Heath21   QUOTE(JakeKKing @ Mar 14 2007, 11:08 PM) ...   Mar 15 2007, 01:14 AM
a beautiful nothing   QUOTE(happykmd @ Mar 14 2007, 5:39 PM) So...   Mar 19 2007, 12:51 AM
happykmd   QUOTE(a beautiful nothing @ Mar 19 2007, 1...   Mar 19 2007, 10:31 AM
JakeKKing   I have a question then... Is it possible for a whi...   Mar 14 2007, 08:39 PM
xoxo_koala_kisses_   ^ Yeah I guess, if they're from Africa, then w...   Mar 14 2007, 08:40 PM
JakeKKing   QUOTE(xoxo_koala_kisses_ @ Mar 14 2007, 9...   Mar 14 2007, 08:46 PM
xoxo_koala_kisses_   True dat. I've come to find out that a bunch a...   Mar 14 2007, 08:57 PM
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black_heart   idk it only bothers me when people generalize. LIK...   Mar 15 2007, 10:30 PM
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mipadi   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 19 2007, 2:25 AM) How...   Mar 19 2007, 10:51 AM
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JakeKKing   QUOTE(Heath21 @ Mar 19 2007, 12:16 PM) Ok...   Mar 20 2007, 12:05 AM
happykmd   ^ Hmm. Well, all of my black friends perfer to be ...   Mar 19 2007, 11:24 AM
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